Posted by handyhood on November 29, 2008 at 4:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"For her, her babies, they were more important than anything else," her mother said. "She is a good person."

WHY is this always said by a family member? She said also that her daughter shouldn't be judged, but how can we not judge her if she was indeed driving drunk? IF she was driving drunk, then it is apparent that her children were not "more important than anything else". She may very well be a good person, good people make stupid decisions, but it doesn't excuse her for the death of her son. She alone will have to face judgement for that.

Posted by socal2310 on November 29, 2008 at 5:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

+1 handyhood,

I have a lot more respect for people who acknowledge that personal responsibility exists.

Lucia probably made an unfortunate decision that cost her the life of her young son. I say "probably" because sober people do have accidents of this sort due to fatigue, distraction etc.

Remember, drunk driving isn't in a class by itself. It is simply one form of grossly negligent behavior, right up there with assuming a firearm is unloaded or deliberately leaving your child in the back seat of your car on a bright, sunny day while you run into the store for "just a minute".

Ryan

Posted by AnnaWhaat on November 29, 2008 at 5:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Guess the star had it wrong yesterday. Yesterday the baby was listed as deceased and the older brother in the hospital. I knew the info. would change.......
Although I am very angry at this Mother ,I do send my Condolences to the family.
Personnally I think that people that drink and drive shouldn't have children.

Posted by thegreatpumpkin on November 29, 2008 at 5:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If I had the choice, I'd like to be the one who throws the switch on this pitiful, selfish excuse for a mother and watch her fry.

But the truth is, death is too good. I, for one, am elated that she gets to wake up and look herself in the face every morning. She can stare her own child's killer in the eyes daily. She can try and sleep in the same bed as the person gave her child the gift of life, then took it away on the cold black asphalt.

She's her own albatross. Yeah, she'll get jail time, but her real punishment is SO much better than a cell.

Posted by ByeBye on November 29, 2008 at 6:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Was this little boy in the proper car seat? Doesn't sound like he was or he was not fastened in properly? Too bad.

Posted by kenternst on November 29, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A single mother out at 2:30 in the morning, drinking and driving with the children not properly secured in the car, heading for her boy friends house. Gee, what could possible go wrong? It proves that stupid people should not breed. I feel so very sorry for the family. As mentioned above by socal2310; it always comes down to personal responsibility and that there will be no punishment that will be equal to her having to live the rest of her life knowing she is responsible for killing her son and the hurt she has permanently caused the rest of the family.

Posted by heartbroken81 on November 29, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A little imput from someone who actually knows Lucia she was a great mom to little Ricky he was extremely important to her and I know it's gonna kill her to know that her bad judgement resulted in his premateur death. However; she LOVES those boys more than anyone of you know!!! It's extremely sad my heart goes out to both the Cardoza and Nuño Families. They lost a precious little boy who could make everyone smile and laugh. He will always be remember as being happy, funny, playful, and full of energy.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion so what some of you are saying is hurtful that's ok that's your opinion and I respect that but until you live a day in her shoes you have no idea what your talking about.

Posted by peternick on November 29, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Although I do not personally know Ricky's mother, I do know his daddy. I know that his love for his son, as well as his agony at having lost him, is very real and sincere. My sincere condolences go out to both families for the loss of such a beautiful, innocent child. May the family be consoled knowing that, although it was way too early, this child has returned Home, and is safe in the arms of Jesus. I pray that in the days and years ahead, the Lord helps all those affected by this child's death to heal. Nothing will ever be the same for them again. There will always be a void in their lives that cannot be filled. Hopefully we can learn something from this and make changes, no matter how small, in our lives that will honor this child and all those that lose their lives at the hands of another. God Bless us all, and especially Ricky and his family at this time.

Barbara A. Serrano
Peter Nick's Mom

Posted by maurica on November 29, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Regardless of what reason this happened, it is sad to think of this poor little boy that passed. I have no sympathy for anyone who can make such a horrible choice, but i can only imagine what it feels like to loose a child. I would die if my little boy were killed. moreso by my own selfish choices. I pray tht family finds some sort peace knowing that he is in the arms of the lord and i pray that the mother takes a long hard look at what happened.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on November 29, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

handyhood ,Very well said!

Posted by born_in_piru on November 29, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My deepest heartfelt sympathy goes out to the cardoza family. I do not know the family personally, but i did see them in church every sunday. I will miss seeing Ricky in church with his family. He was truly a beautiful child. And I hope that his grandma will find comfort in knowing that this beautiful child knew how much he was loved by his grandma. I could see it in his eyes when he would be in your arms in church. May you find peace and comfort knowing that Ricky is now in the arms of Jesus, and one day you too will be reunited with him. God Bless you.

Posted by vc1977 on November 29, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This women made some very bad choices as did the people she was with that didn't take her keys away or at least make sure she didn't have the little boys in the car with her while she drove under the influence. I am sure this was not the first time she has done this. I hope she gets the max jail time if she recovers from her injuries. 10 years? She gets no sympathy from me on her bad choices. I am sure she just lost custody of her other son.

Posted by eve805 on November 29, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Putting her children in danger like that, I think she doesnt deserve her child that survived.

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Posted by misseshen on November 29, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is a SHAME that in this tragedy so many people feel that the have to say something rude. As if the mother isn't already saying these things to herself.Probably far worse. It was an error in judgement. Who are you to condemn her?

I am sorry to all the family and friends. I will be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.

Posted by whistle_blower524 on November 29, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

She does not deserve any pitty.i hepen to know the father. And from i heard first hand he warned her about what she did more than once. like i said burn in hell

Posted by nojustice_justus on November 29, 2008 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

whistle_blower524--are you alleging she was in another accident whereby her child was killed? I doubt it.

Its unfortunate that there aren't as many perfect individuals in this world as there are on this site. Especially the ones who feel it is their duty to pass judgement.

Let the family grieve in peace.

Posted by hotwildflower on November 29, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Drinking and driving kills...how many innocent people have to die before that sinks in? How many have to die before people stop accepting drunk drivers? How many have to die before this crime is truly punished for what it is? Attemped murder, or in this case...murder.

Posted by NightLight on November 29, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think it's incredible that not only are certain people here attacking the mother who was involved in the accident, but they are also so hateful and vicious toward her family members, friends, and anyone here who shows some compassion for what has happened.

"Wake up grandma and don't tell us not to judge her." Yeah, let's go after her now, she's certainly not going through enough pain now, is she? Amazing.

Nobody is excusing what she did, and nobody is condoning drunk driving. If you can't tell the difference between having some compassion for her and her family, and condoning drunk driving, then I feel sorry for you. But don't try and tell me who I should and shouldn't pray for and have sympathy for. I do feel for Ms. Cardoza, and pray for her and her family. If you feel that makes me part of the "problem" as was posted yesterday, then so be it. I personally believe that closing your heart and lacking feelings for other human beings is as big of a problem as anything in today's society.

Posted by abbyjacks on November 29, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Car seats if used correctly will not allow a child to be ejected out of the car. I do not agree with this mothers parenting skills but no one should have to loose a child due to their own stupidity. My heart goes out to the other family members that will have to live with her mistakes.

The CHP / Fire station will double check your car seat to make sure you have it installed correctly. But it is ultamitly the parents responsibility to buckel up!

Read the manual and use it 100% of the time.

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Posted by breannadawnrippetoe_23_26 on November 29, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well i didnt know the lady my self but my friend knew her sister and from what i have been told no one needs to try to be god and judge her i know from being a mom my self u do every thing in your ability to protect your children and she seamed like her babies was her life so every one thats putting negative comments NEED TO STOP we all need to come together nation wide and pray for the family i mean she has to live with this the rest of her life she suffers enough with out the bad comments about her on here.

Posted by rebel123 on November 29, 2008 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The jackals have spoken. A tragic event has unfolded, a child is dead and we all really have very little information to go on. How about offering up prayers for this family instead of the metaphorical ripping of this mother's flesh?

Posted by StarReader13 on November 29, 2008 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WOW! It is so nice to know that so many of you out there are walking around with halos over your heads. People should not judge!!! Were you in that woman's shoes that day? Do you know all the details? Can you truly look in the mirror and say you have never made a poor mistake. I am shocked at how harsh some of your comments have been. How many of you can honestly say you have never had a drink and then sat behind the wheel of your car to drive home, with passengers in the car. Let me just clear something up. Do you realize if you go out to dinner with your family and you decide to have a drink with that meal, just one drink, if you get back into a car with your family and if by chance for some unfortunate reason you are pulled over by a police officer or in are involved in an accident (your fault automatically due to the alcohol) you are guilty of DUI and can be arrested. Doesn't necessarily mean that you are DRUNK. How many of you were celebrating the Holiday with family and friends having a c---tail or two that day. How did you get home. If you got behind the wheel to drive home, you were drinking and driving (weather you felt fine or not). I don't know this woman personally, but I can't believe that people would want to think the worst of people's mistakes.

Now I am not saying by any means that drinking a driving are OK, but what I am saying is, how and who are you to judge. Look in that mirror and I am sure you will find yourself guilty of the same thing at one time in your life. Thank God you didn't have the misfortune of having an accident, that took the life of your child or loved one away.

This woman made a terrible mistake that night. I can only imagine how terrible the pain in her heart is at this moment. She doesn't need people judging her.

My heart and prayers go out to both families that were involved in this terrible accident.

Posted by cherie on November 29, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For all of you people that are so quick to judge all of you need a wake up call there is only one god so what give's you the right to judge?Yes the loss of this little boy is tragic and the mother,family & friend's of this beautifull little boy will probably never get over this tragedy and the last thing that any of them need is judgemental people making rude comment's and statement's so please understand that these comment's arent helping matters any this beautifull little boy is in the arm's of the LORD so please let him rest in peace.My deepest sympathy goe's out to the cardoza and nuno familie's.

Posted by ByeBye on November 29, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When I lived in SP I used to go up to people that had babies, kids on their lap in he car. I would tell them what a beautiful child. Then I would say, I would hate to see that babies face all over the dash board! I hopefully shamed them. I just loved the people who had them on their lap with the seat belt around both of them. That would be an even worse picture to describe.

Posted by hotwildflower on November 29, 2008 at 6:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

more excuses and acception of drinking and driving will only lead to more innocent lives lost. I am in my 30's and can honestly say I have NEVER had a drink and driven. It's no halo, just common sense, a love for my children and respect for others on the road.

Posted by upsetangelsmile on November 29, 2008 at 7:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

StarReader13---Couldn't have said it better myself!!It's good to see some people out here still have a heart. I hope half these negative people never have to or have a close family member go through something like this. May your blessed soul R.I.P. lil Ricky you have your angel wings now, I bet it's beautiful up there in heaven. Praying for the Cardoza and Nuno families.

Posted by Itsmyright on November 29, 2008 at 7:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow I don't remember you all talking like this when Tracey Gold "Growing Pains" was arrested for drunk driving while driving her husband and three children? That's just as horrible.

MOORPARK, Calif. (AP) -- Former "Growing Pains" actress Tracey Gold was arrested after her sport utility vehicle flipped on Highway 118, injuring her husband and two of their children. An infant was unhurt.

Tracey Gold Marshall, 35, of Valencia was booked for investigation of felony drunken driving after the Sept. 3 crash, California Highway Patrol Officer Steve Reid said Monday.

The SUV, with Marshall at the wheel, veered off eastbound Highway 118 near Princeton Avenue just before midnight and it rolled over on its way down an embankment, Reid said.

Marshall wasn't hurt, but her husband Robby Marshall, 39, suffered neck injuries, the officer said. The couple's 7-year-old son suffered a broken collar bone and a 5-year-old son was cut, but a 4-month-old son wasn't hurt, Reid said.

Officers suspected the former "Growing Pains" star was under the influence of alcohol and she was booked at County Jail. She posted $50,000 bail the following day and was released. A court date wasn't immediately available, the CHP said.

The Marshalls' home telephone number was unlisted and the actress couldn't be reached.

The actress played Carol Seaver during the seven-year run of "Growing Pains," which ended production in 1992.

Posted by Itsmyright on November 29, 2008 at 7:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OH AND SHE WAS GIVEN PROBATION!

Posted by Itsmyright on November 29, 2008 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OH AND A INTERVIEW WITH BARBARA WALTERS.

Posted by huntram on November 29, 2008 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hotwildflower,

Well spoken! I am in my 50's and also have NEVER gotten behind the wheel with even ONE drink!

We SHOULD judge this mother. We should also PRAY for her and her family.

I sit here and JUDGE anyone who drinks and drive. In fact I have sat on two jury's where we convicted drunk drivers. I guess that makes me judgemental?

But at least in neither of those DUI's was anyone hurt. Here an innocent child was murdered because his selfish poor excuse for a mom decided that the drink was more important then her child. In fact more important then YOUR child.

For all those who feel she is a wonderful person and mother, would you still feel that way if she hit YOUR car and murdered YOUR child?

Common Sense!

Posted by Itsmyright on November 29, 2008 at 9:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

REFERENCE TO AnnaWhaat
PEOPLE WHO DRINK AND DRIVE SHOULDN'T HAVE CHILDREN, WOW WHAT A COMMENT. I WONDER IF PRESIDENT BUSH EVER DROVE WHEN HE WAS A DRUNK OR ANY OTHER CLOSET DRINKERS OUT THERE. IF YOU HAVE, SHAME ON YOU ACCORDING TO annawhaat. YOU SHOULDN'T BE PARENTS AND I GUESS YOU SHOULD HAVE ABORTED YOUR UNBORN BABIES.
LUCIA MADE A VERY COSTLY MISTAKE THAT SHE'LL HAVE TO LIVE WITH LIKE SO MANY OTHERS BEFORE HER.
GOD BLESS THE CARDOZA AND NUNO FAMILY

Posted by n72ponce on November 29, 2008 at 9:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to post a message for all you so called perfect people whom want to judge Lucy. No one has the right to pass judgment; this is the Lords place. I can only hope and pray that he is as forgiving to you, on your judgment day as you have been to Lucy. How many of you live in a glass house. Good people make mistakes. THINK ABOUT IT. A father whom has a loaded gun in the home, a neighbor with a swimming pool whom leaves the gate open, a grandmother whom leaves her blood pressure pills on the night stand, a teenager whom texts while driving.How many of you have driven while holding a cell phone in your ear. How many of you smoke in the house or in the car with your kids. Bad things happen to good people this does not make them bad nor does it give any of you the right to wish more harm or grief on Lucy or her family. Her son is gone and I am sure she would do anything to change it. As my grandmother would say if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at ALL!!!!!

Posted by whistle_blower524 on November 29, 2008 at 9:40 p.m.

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Posted by whistle_blower524 on November 29, 2008 at 9:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And stop making excuses for that Loooser!

Posted by n72ponce on November 29, 2008 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

whistleblower first of all I have been a family friend of the Cardoza family for many years and I am not making excuses for Lucy. I am simply saying you or no one has the right to judge. Her family is grieving and your nasty comments are not helping the situation. So either offer the family your condolences or leave it alone!!!! Slandering other people in an effort to hurt Lucy and her family further, only reflect poorly on you.

Posted by vmn1213 on November 29, 2008 at 10:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TO WHO IT MAY CONCERN...FOR YOUR INFO, THE MOTHER DID NOT KILL HER SON,WHEN SHE HIT THE GUARD RAIL AND CRASHED, THAT CHILD WAS ALIVE.ALL THE NIEGHBORHOOD HEARD THAT CHILD CRYING. WHEN THE WHITE VAN COME ABOUT 2 MINUTES LATER AND HIT LUCY'S CAR THAT CRASH KILLED THE CHILD. SO THE MOTHER WAS PROBALY TAKING THE KIDS OUT OF THERE CAR SEATS TO GET THEM OUT OF THE CAR.

Posted by Itsmyright on November 29, 2008 at 10:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HAVEN'T YOU EVER HEARD OF "MERCY" OR "GRACE" FOR OUR LIVES AND SOUL? YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING TOO. WE ALL FALL SHORT.

Posted by blurose on November 29, 2008 at 10:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you people act like she threw him out of the car herself!! you act like she didnt love these children!dont you stop and think of what really happened? what if she had no choice but to get in that car and try to get her children home in their bed where its where it was warm and safe!! you cant talk all this crap unless you know the truth!it couldve been just a terrible coinsidence that she had alcohol in her system...what if sumthing went wrong wit her car..dont you stop and think about that? im not sayin anyone should ever drink and drive but you people are so quick to blame her for the death of her child..i am 100% sure if she were your family or freind your opinions would be completly different..you would not be saying all these horrible things about her..why do you wish to harm her surviving child? seperating them will ruin the little boys life..she needs her baby and he needs his mother..enough punishment has been given to her alredy..she doesnt need to hear this over and over again. you people are so angry because of this childs death but yet you are wishing death to another human being.you have no heart!!!

Posted by WolfWalker on November 30, 2008 at 12:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-dri...

No we are not perfect, and no we all don’t have halos, but many of us don’t drink and drive. And if you’ve ever seen the police videos, then drunk drivers always say (as their falling down) “Iv only have a couple of drinks.” If she wasn’t drunk then I am sorry, but if she was drunk then she deserves the full extent of the law and more. (sence I don’t think the DUI law’s are harsh enough) Drunk drivers endanger our lives way too often. And there is no excuse for drinking and driving.

And no, I have never drunk and drive and never will, I’ve even gone 1 step farther, I don’t drink. (My CDL is to important to me to risk it on something so stupid)

I wonder if a drunk driver had hit and killed one of your family members, if you’d still saying it was just a mistake. A drunk driver killed a good friend of mine, when I was a kid. And with the mileage I do every year and the times I sometimes have to drive, Iv had a few close calls with a DUI drivers.

I’m amazed that some of you post not to judge, when you yourself have judged people, because they did or do something that is a sin in the bible.

Posted by whistle_blower524 on November 30, 2008 at 12:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Great comment "WolfWalker"

Posted by nojustice_justus on November 30, 2008 at 12:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

huntram--Being on a jury which includes all the relevant evidence in a case is a far cry from reading a story online.

handyhood-- F ewe? Wow! I'm glad you are showing your true colors. Do you have all your teeth still? Public speaking in that manner dictates less than 32.

Posted by 24_VTA_GRL on November 30, 2008 at 1:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow... Blurose.. are you kidding me!!! If she realy had no choice but to take her children home to their "warm bed" then she should have stop drinking!!!! The truth is that this woman was a DRUNK and always put the booze before anything else. If she was a friend or my family member I would still have the same oppinion of her!! Don't get me wrong I feel for the family and my prayers go out to them. But come on! I am a mother of 4 and I would NEVER, NEVER put my kids in danger, and that is exactly what she DID!!

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Posted by nojustice_justus on November 30, 2008 at 12:40 a.m.

huntram--Being on a jury which includes all the relevant evidence in a case is a far cry from reading a story online.

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nojustice_justus,
That's actually a very good point. It's really why I hesitated to post for most of the day!

I just got frustrated that it seemed that so many were giving her a pass and saying even if it is proved to be DUI we cannot judge.

I do feel sorry for her and her family, but if true, SHE alone decided to put her babies in the car with her and drive!

Again as I stated, I wonder if everyone would be so forgiving if she hit their car and killed one of their babies?

Common Sense!

Posted by AnnaWhaat on November 30, 2008 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Star7 ,ACTUALLY I DO FEEL THAT WAY! IF THEY CANT STOP DRINKING WHILE THEY HAVE THIER KIDS WITH THEM IN THE CAR THEN THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THEM!
StarReader13 ,Yes I can! I can clearly look in the mirror and tell you I have NEVER drove my car with my kids in it after a drink . I may not have a halo but I can say I have never done that.
And from another comment someone posted that the Father had warned her not to do this. SO she must have done this before. Drinking and driving with his kids in the car!!!! She didn't listen to him I guess and see where it got her.
I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy! I feel for both families. But from the Comments from those that knew her........seems its not her first time drinking and driving with the kids.

Posted by openmind805 on November 30, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For all you who think you are so perfect f you. You don't know the whole story you're basing your opinion on what you have read in the media. And the person who said that she committed a sin according to the bible, have you read in the bible where is says that judging people is also a sin? You or nobody is worthy of passing judgement on anyone. If you're so perfect (a saint) then use all your energy and pray for this girl and her family. Guranteed every single one of you has broken at least one of the ten cammandments, you just dud so by writing what you wrote. No it's not right to drink and drive but I know for sure she was not drunk. She made a horrible mistake and I'm not saying it's ok but I know at that age I thought nothing can ever happen to me or my loved ones. No mother would ever do something knowing it would harm her child. One thing I hope all you perfect people would do is to pray that the person who hit her behind and left will feel so guilty they turn themselves in then the person who really killed that beutiful boy will truly pay for it. It was just unfortunate that she happen to have alcohol in her system but that was not the cause of the accident.

Posted by Itsmyright on November 30, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

THANK YOU openmind805 BECAUSE THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO REPENT FOR THERE HATEFUL WORDS.OUR PRAYERS FOR THE FAMILIES. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

Posted by whistle_blower524 on November 30, 2008 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah the truth will come out. And the truth is she ruined so many lifes. All because of her selfishness. Thay youg boy was suppos to be with hais father on friday morning, But instead he is with th lord. just like someone posted, What if it was your child, Then what????Would you be so forgiving???? God bless, And help the father.

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Posted by Itsmyright on November 30, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow I don't remember you all talking like this when Tracey Gold "Growing Pains"

MOORPARK, Calif. (AP) -- Former "Growing Pains" actress Tracey Gold was arrested after her sport utility vehicle flipped on Highway 118, injuring her husband and two of their children. An infant was unhurt.

Tracey Gold Marshall, 35, of Valencia was booked for investigation of felony drunken driving after the Sept. 3 crash, California Highway Patrol Officer Steve Reid said Monday.

The SUV, with Marshall at the wheel, veered off eastbound Highway 118 near Princeton Avenue just before midnight and it rolled over on its way down an embankment, Reid said.

Marshall wasn't hurt, but her husband Robby Marshall, 39, suffered neck injuries, the officer said. The couple's 7-year-old son suffered a broken collar bone and a 5-year-old son was cut, but a 4-month-old son wasn't hurt, Reid said.

Officers suspected the former "Growing Pains" star was under the influence of alcohol and she was booked at County Jail. She posted $50,000 bail the following day and was released. A court date wasn't immediately available, the CHP said.

The Marshalls' home telephone number was unlisted and the actress couldn't be reached.

The actress played Carol Seaver during the seven-year run of "Growing Pains," which ended production in 1992.
Wow I don't remember you all talking like this when Tracey Gold "Growing Pains" was arrested for drunk driving while driving her husband and three children? That's just as horrible.

OH AND SHE WAS GIVEN PROBATION
OH AND A INTERVIEW WITH BARBARA WALTERS.

WHY DON'T YOU ALL CALL HER UP AND LET HERE KNOW SHE SHOULD GIVE UP HER CHILDREN TO FOSTER CARE!

Posted by WolfWalker on November 30, 2008 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.thetrucker.com/News/Storie...

Drunk drivers are a danger to themselves and everyone on the road. Plain and simple.
It has been proven that even a couple beers can impair someone.

Posted by DaddySaidNoNo on November 30, 2008 at 6:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I knew this LOOSER Lucia and worked with her every day. If the truth of her character is in question. Let the truth be known, this was not the first time she drove drunk with her kids in the car. Often whe would brag about her night life and the extremes she took in order to have fun. One, she would often spirit her children away with her to different houses of various gange member boyfriends. Two, the one mentioned in the above article was infact an inmate who was just released. Three, She would often call in sick from having hang-overs or injuries from fighting at parties. And in all honesty, she didnt kill her child, when she made these decisions, she murdered him.

Posted by Itsmyright on November 30, 2008 at 7:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If she was such a bad mother, why didn't you report it to social services. Then maybe lil Ricky would still be alive. You people are all talk. It's to late now you should of opened your BIG mouth then not now. So why don't you SHOUT UP! Your just as fault as she then, to know and not do anything about it.

Posted by DaddySaidNoNo on November 30, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We did call social services but they were unable to send out an employee to watch the highway at 2:38 in the morning every other Friday/Saturday night. And there is something called due process, which involves evidence. Social services require a police officer and a court order in which to investigate a possible claim. Not only is it fruitless to call authorities on a he said/she said basis, it requires at least 48 hours for the first visit. There fore, considering alcohol stays in the blood stream for only 24 hours (With a Blood Test) it is logically ineffective to intervene in this way. I say this because by the time social services would of investigated the situation, Lucie would at that time be back at her new boyfriends house enjoying inexpensive c---tails such as Mad Dog 20/20 and Old English 800. By the way Star7, I did do my part to help the situation by firing her. Because without money, you cant buy alcohol. Have a nice day sunshine

Posted by opns on November 30, 2008 at 7:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Christina Cardoza said no one should judge her daughter." REALLY!!!???

Lady, if I had a daughter like yours, I would of kept the children home, and called the cops on my own daughter, to salvage my grandchildren. Sounds like you may of known your own daughter was a partier.

Not only do the people get to speak and judge, it is our right - because we the people as jury will judge her.

And not only are we judging her, but; obviously no one ever taught your daughter any sound judgement. Why Not?? Not only do we question your daughters foolish act, but we also judge the parenting your daughter received.
Condolances to you lady.

My condolances to the father, I pray God can carry you thru this. I hope you can find peace in your heart.

Posted by opns on November 30, 2008 at 8:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://805moms.com/?page=mom_resources
http://805moms.com/groups
(read and take heed)
Here's a pleasant resource for drunken moms or any mom for that matter, get your act together. Look at the faces of loving and caring parents. It is a joy to see happy children with loving mommies.

Call a Taxi: Save a Life and call a Taxi
http://805vigilantes.blogspot.com/200...

"DID YOU CALL YOUR D.A.D.?
Print this and hang by your door or fridge.
Folks use your senses.

Posted by YouDontKnow on November 30, 2008 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I LIVE ON THE STREET RIGHT BELOW WHERE THE ACCIDENT HAPPEND! THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD CAME RUNNING OUT TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON. BOTH HER KIDS WERE CRYING AFTER THE ACCIDENT. WE ALL DONT KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPEND BUT WHAT MY NEIGHBORHOOD THINKS IS THAT SHE WAS TRYING TO GET HER KIDS OUT OF THE CAR WHEN THE OTHER CAR HIT THEM ABOUT TWO MINUTES LATER. SO SHE PROBLEY UNBUCKLED THE LITTLE BOYS SEAT BELT . . . . .LIKE I SAID WE ALL HEARD BOTH HER BOYS CRYING. SHE DIDN'T KILL THEM.

I AGREE SHE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE, IF SHE WAS DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE. THAT SHE WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE REST OF HER LIFE. THATS PUNISHMENT ENOUGH. LEAVE THE POOR GIRL ALONE!!

Posted by Itsmyright on November 30, 2008 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DaddySaidNoNo you think you know social services protocol, your wrong. If you persist enough they will jump on it. Don't act like you called. Your just trying to clear you conscious. Your full of it. Go to bed now, with your clear conscious.

Posted by myveiw7 on November 30, 2008 at 9:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To all those who were involded with this accident, I hope you have learned from this tragedy. You know who you are. May god have mercy upon you. To the fathers and there family,and lucia and family you are in our prayers. Ricky you will be missed, God just received a special Angel.

Posted by WolfWalker on November 30, 2008 at 10:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If she didn’t have alcohol in her system, then the chances of her being in an accident would have been greatly reduced. And if she didn’t crash, then the van wouldn’t have come along 2 minutes later and hit her car.

On average about 42,000 people die in accidents every year, and most of them could have been avoided. To many accidents happen because of a mistake. And some people just want to coddle these people. People need to be responsible when behind the wheel

Posted by NightLight on November 30, 2008 at 10:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Opns wrote: "Not only do the people get to speak and judge, it is our right - because we the people as jury will judge her.

"And not only are we judging her, but; obviously no one ever taught your daughter any sound judgement. Why Not?? Not only do we question your daughters foolish act, but we also judge the parenting your daughter received."

Pretty loose use of "we" and "our" my friend, because you certainly don't speak for me and many others here. For one thing, you have to earn the right to be on a jury, meaning you have to have an open mind and not pre-judge, which would eliminate you and many others. And what exactly do you get for attacking the mother of the driver, does it make you feel good to attack someone who just tragically lost her grandson?

It is easy to offer prayer and sympathy to saints. It is difficult to offer prayer and sympathy to someone who has made a tragic error in judgment that led to the loss of an innocent life. It's too bad that so many people choose to take the easy way.

Again, nobody is condoning drunk driving, and nobody is denying that the mother caused the death of her child. But some of us realize that calling her names and worse will not change anything.

Posted by openmind805 on November 30, 2008 at 10:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I heard the lady in the white van had been drinking herself was she tested for alcohol? And for you sorry excuse for a man who claims to have called social service, that's why such an agency exists, to invistigate and find evidence they don't leave that up to the people reporting. Sounds like your ego was hurt somehow huh? God bless lil Riki and may the lord carry you in his arms through this awful time Lucy.

Posted by opns on December 1, 2008 at midnight (Suggest removal)

Nightlite, okay lets change we and our and change it to some. Your right. I myself would ask to be dismissed from being a juror on her case. Pity on her for the jurors that know her case, and already have a judgement in sent in mind of guilty. I'm sure that are always many in juries that have set their mind up.

As far as the grandmother is concerned, a good person does not subject her children to this type of abuse, and ultimately death.

And yes, I have been praying for this family, this does come easy to me, and others, (some).

http://805vigilantes.blogspot.com/200...
(spread the word Nightlight), it may save a life.

My sadness is that there are so many resources out there, and people could care less to get themselves together, or help their own children.

How hard is it to call a Taxi Cab. Or to ask family to drive you?

Posted by 1cwbyfan on December 1, 2008 at 7:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

my condolences to the nuno family,especially to my friend ricky sr,who loved his son very much!keep stong ricky! you know your friends are here to give a shoulder to cry on alright!!!

Posted by AnnaWhaat on December 1, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I do think we have all spoken our mind on Drunk Drivers,and those with children aboard. Maybe since she was so prone to this behavior it finally caught up with her. Only GOD knows. Really the name calling had gone on alot here and we all have the right to comment. Now I will pray for The families and relatives and friends of this little boys parents. Everyone has expressed thier opinion.........some kind, some harsh. I can only pray her surviving child has a better life.

Posted by opns on December 1, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Anna, very good post 9:04, I believe as a community many have vented, now it's time to pray for the family and others.

Posted by mykidz1st805 on December 1, 2008 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's a shame that a child lost his life due to the reckless actions of a mother who thought that she could drink all night and then drive home. What makes it worse is her mother doesn't see that protecting her daughter won't make Lucy see that she is directly responsible for the death of her son. I've known the Cardoza family for over 20 years, and they have always lived the party life. Christina played a part in her son Tony's death, leaving behind 2 young children and a teenage daughter without their father. I hope that the mother of those 2 young children keeps them as far away from this family as she possibly can. Because who knows how many times they have been exposed to the negativity of this family.

Posted by lilmiss_sunshine on December 1, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I want to send my condolances to the Nuno family, i personally know one of them and see the pain this has caused there family.

I agree with many of you on here and she should not been drinking and driving but as a soon to be mother i can not imagine the pain and guilt she is living with this moment.

May god be with them during this difficult time.

Posted by getreal on December 1, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Its a shame that so many of you are belitteling a man who tried to stop this from happeneing. A man who did call Social Services. Thats a whole lot more than most of you can say that you did. You all have opinions but only ONE took action, ONE! Take a good hard look in the mirror before you throw stones.

Posted by beserra on December 1, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am not here to say anything bad about lucy I am here to remember little Ricky because thats what it is about after all non of you have been given the right to pass judgement on anyone my son played with Ricky every day at day care and thats all i remember is his little face and all i can do is keep praying for those of you who are left here on earth to remember him.

Posted by ValerinaS on December 1, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is tragic. I am so sad for all involved. It was an avoidable tragedy though.

I do not walk around with a halo over my head. On the flipside though, I do not smoke in my car with children, or keep a gun in my home, or any of the other suggestions posted in previous comments, I believe in avoiding possible risks. When my kids are in the car, I make sure they are properly snapped in their car seats. They can't work if not used correctly. The mother will blame herself more than any of us can. She has to live with the knowledge that she is responsible for her son's death for the rest of her life. I'm sure it's punishment enough.

Does anyone know if the new law went into effect regarding the Murder 1 charge now if someone dies as a result of a drunk driver?

Posted by GitRdone on December 1, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TO MYKIDZ1ST805, PLEASE DO NOT TALK BADLY ABOUT MS. CARDOZA !!! HOW CAN YOU BE SO COLD TO SAY SHE PLAYED A PART IN HER SON TONY'S DEATH ??? YOU ARE SICK TO SAY SUCH A THING, SO COLD YOU ARE.
ALSO, IT IS NOT OK TO DRINK & DRIVE, ESPECIALLY WITH CHILDREN IN THE VEHICLE, AS WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO LIL RICKY. MAY GOD BLESS LIL RICKY.
I ALSO PRAY FOR HIS MOM, HIS GRANDMA & ALL THE FAMILIES, FRIENDS AFFECTED BY THIS TRAGEDY.
BEFORE ANYONE DECIDES TO POST SUCH SICK COMMENTS, TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT YOURSELF....I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE MADE BAD CHOICES, SO INSTEAD OF POSTING SICK COMMENTS, PRAY FOR THE FAMILIES & IF ANYTHING, LEARN FROM THIS TRAGEDY & SHARE THIS WITH ANYONE YOU LOVE OR CARE FOR SO THAT ANOTHER FAMILY DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHAT THE CARDOZA/NUNO FAMILY IS GOING THROUGH.

Posted by BeaHappi on December 1, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So sad...poor little guy. RIP Ricardo Nuno.

Posted by 1cwbyfan on December 1, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why dont you all excet the truth! None of this would have happened , if tha sorry excuss for a mother didnt take them with her to go get drunk all the time. so dont come on here with your dumb comments about hoe she didnt mean it!!! wha the hell did you think she meant by driving around@ 2:30 am!!!What would you be saying if your sons babys mom was out and about! And did that to your son or brother!!!!

Posted by 1cwbyfan on December 1, 2008 at 12:14 p.m.

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Posted by hotwildflower on December 1, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

1cwbyfan, I get what you are saying, but your message sort of loses it's meaning by using foul language.

My heart goes out to this father who will miss out on all the blessings of raising a child. I couldn't even begin to imagine the pain this man has to be suffering.

I can't say it enough times, people accept drinking and driving as just a minor traffic infraction and blow it off and it never seems to truly sink in that drinking and driving KILLS!

What is most appauling is the number of people who casually say that everyone has done it. NO, NOT EVERYONE has done it.

As a teen, I remember the murder on the grade by Diane Manns and I made a vow at that time that I would NEVER drink and drive...and I never have.

Posted by myveiw7 on December 1, 2008 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is very sad that only the mother is being blamed. I am curious about the boyfreind and others she was drinking wih that night.What kind of people are you???Why would you let her drive her childeren while under the influence??? If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck, then its a duck.

Posted by hotwildflower on December 1, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am angry with society as a whole and their acceptance of drinking & driving. If this was punished more severely, maybe people would really think twice about it and a life could be saved.

Posted by getreal on December 1, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

myveiw7 the mother is an adult, fully responsible for her actions. You can try to pass blame on anyone you like but the MOTHER chose to drink and then drive drunk, the MOTHER chose to have her innocent children out at 2:30 in the morning, the MOTHER chose to be so selfish that she subjected her children to this horrific accident that the surviving sibling will have etched in his head until the day he dies.

Posted by myveiw7 on December 1, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

getreal Iam not passing on the blame,it is a shame that every one that was there that night keeps passing on the resposibilty to only the mother, Just to clear there mind. All they have show to everyone who has read these blogs is that they can't take responsiblity for there actions that night.

Posted by myveiw7 on December 1, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess they didn't give a s---!!!!

Posted by opns on December 1, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"I've known the Cardoza family for over 20 years, and they have always lived the party life."
SOOOO, mom and daughter boozed it up together and who else in that house? Just as I thought,

poor kids, didn't have a chance in life.
(I know i've repeated this line before.) But all to soon enough.

Here's another..........
".....she seamed like her babies...."

That's right dum_y, that was the problem, she seamed liked them, she didn't love them. She was too frickin drunk to love. I've seen her type all too often, just look at MY Space and look at all the other dum_ies there.

Posted by opns on December 1, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"So why don't you SHOUT UP!" Star7

that's what we are doing star. alrighty then, take it easy on us.

Posted by NightLight on December 1, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anna, that was a very wise comment you posted this morning.

Posted by Itsmyright on December 1, 2008 at 6:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

opns you quoted
"I've known the Cardoza family for over 20 years, and they have always lived the party life."
SOOOO, mom and daughter boozed it up together and who else in that house?
How did you know what went on in there house? If it were illegal why didn't you report it?
CPS is annonymous.

Posted by myveiw7 on December 1, 2008 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

California lawmakers passed a second law pertaining to DUI / DWI and driver?s license applications. Beginning July 1, 2008, everyone who is applying for a new driver?s license or renewal in California will be required to acknowledge in writing that drunk-driving resulting in death can result in the driver facing murder charges. If the driver is later accused of causing death while driving under the influence, this written admission will be used as evidence.

http://www.californiaduihelp.com/NewL...

Posted by curlygirly on December 1, 2008 at 6:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lucy and I were friends since we were kids. After Graduating we really didn’t keep in touch. But When I would run into her she would be on her way to work, school or dropping off her boys at the babysitters! Doing what she could as a single Mom to make a better life for herself and her boys!!It’s unfortunate that one terrible, terrible mistake will be what public will remember her for! It’s unfortunate that her son paid for her mistake with his life! I know there is absolutely No excuse for drunk driving! I’m sure she will pay for her mistake with her freedom and will carry that guilt with her forever! My heart goes out to her and her family!

Posted by AnnaWhaat on December 2, 2008 at 6:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Itsmyright , I can say for a FACT tha CPS is lacking in getting to a child in danger!!!! I had to call about four or five times before they stepped in..........
Acually I had the baby at my home and asked them to come over and check her out. Thats when they finally came. And they can come knocking at your door and you can tell them its a bad time right now.They can not enter. People need to get off thier behinds and go straight to the courts and file an ex=parte. Then a court date is set and the Judge will hear your case. CPS in my opinion really isn't doing thier job they should. And I hate to say that but that is how I feel. I had to go through mounds of paper work helping my Son get custody of his daughter.

Posted by stonewall on December 2, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lets remember the drinking and driving season is upon us, lest WE make sound choices for our loved ones and those in the other cars it could / will be our turn NEXT.... i PRAY for the babys, and the mother's recovery (i don't feel sorry for her)but know she will suffer in her own kind of torment. and perhaps bear witness to others. and for some of the posters out there i think we have more then our share of village you know whats, and it takes a village to raise a child hevean help the kids.

Posted by GitRdone on December 2, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NO ONE SHOULD BLAME ANYTHING ON CRISTINA (GRANDMA)., BECAUSE IT WAS NOT HER CHOICE FOR HER DAUGHTER TO BE DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE, IF THIS IS THE CASE. WE MUST BE AT FAULT FOR OUR OWN ACTIONS. I DOUBT THAT THE GRANDMA PUT HER BEHIND THE WHEEL, SO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU POST PRIOR ( ILUVOXNARD2), BECAUSE NO ONE CAN MAKE YOU DRINK & DRIVE.........

Posted by iLOVEgReeN on December 2, 2008 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TO EVERYONE HATING....STOP!!!!!
SHE DIDINT KILL HER SON!!!
HE WAS CALLED HOME BY HIS FATHER ABOVE...
LEAVE OUR FAMILY AT PEACE...LET US GRIEVE ALONE WITHOUT NEGATIVE PEOPLES THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS AS IF UR SO FU_in PERFECT..
UNTIL YOU EXPERIENCE SOMETHING LIKE THIS YOU WONT KNOW HOW IT FEELS.!!!
ALWAYS AND FOREVER N OUR THOUGHTS AND HEARTS
<3RiCARDO NUNO JR. *SPiDERMAN* <3

Posted by iLOVEgReeN on December 2, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TO THOSE WHO SAY CARDOZA FAMILY IS A PARTY FAMILY..
ASK YOURSELF A QUESTION..? STOP HATING YOU COULD ONLY KNOW WERE A PARTY FAMILY IF YOU HAVE PARTIED WITH US...
DONT DISCRIMINATE OUR FAMILY...EVERYONE PARTIES!!!
UR JUST IN DENIAL BECAUSE YOU CLAIM TO BE SO PERFECT!!!!
WORDS DO HURT OUR FEELINGS AT THIS TIME..BUT THE TRUTH WILL PUT US AT EASE AND YOU NEGATIVE PEOPLE OUT OUR LIVES..
GOD FORBID ANYTHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN TO ANYONE ELSE..BUT TO THOSE BEING MEAN AND HURTFUL PAY BAK IS A BI_CH!!!!

Posted by DATRUTH343 on December 2, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let the Little Angel Rest In Peace in Heaven and leave the Judging to the LORD!!!!!!!!! Pretty lame how you people can sit here responding back and forth... Let the Families Grieve in peace... It's not like she is the first, nor the last. That is for her own conscious to deal with. Everyone makes Mistakes, and some people should learn from them. Besides, we all DIE in the END.. We just don’t know how… Who the F_R We to JUDGE????!!!!

Posted by lilmiss_sunshine on December 2, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I really think most people on here are pissed off at the mother just as i am.

This little boy did not to be out at 2:30 in the morning to end up in a casket.

I can not imagine the pain and guilt she feels but she DID bring this upon herself.

We are all here to share our opinions about the article and i witnessed first hand how much pain this is bringing to the Nuno's family. May Ricardo get the strength he needs to get through this. I know none of us should judge this mother but her actions led to a horrific mistake!

Please pray for the Nuno's family and R.i.P lil angel Ricky!!

Posted by Jewels on December 2, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well said Datruth. What she did was wrong and we all know that drinking and driving kills. But it happened, there is nothing we can do about it now. And she is left to live with this grief for the rest of her life. Sitting here and crusifying her is not going to bring back the little boy. Her family, who are innocent people in this whole thing are reading this and they are in pain and you are only adding to this. Was she wrong, yes, did her actions kill her son, yes. She has to live with this. And you all are intitled to your opinions..but just know that they are doing more harm than good. And no I do not know this family and I do not condone drinking and driving. I just have a heart. You can fire back at me if you want but I will not respond. I say my two cents and I move on.

Posted by GitRdone on December 2, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TO ILUVOXNARD2,
U SURE DON'T HAVE A HALO OVER UR HEAD,NOR DO I, BUT DO YOU REALLY THINK IT'S OK TO BELITTLE ANYONE THE WAY YOU ARE ? YOUR WORDS MAKE " YOU " SOUND LIKE A VERY UGLY PERSON. SOMEONE WHO SEEMS TO GET OFF ON OTHER PEOPLES MISTAKES. YOU MAKE YOURSELF SOUND SO HORRIBLE, SO VERY UNHAPPY, THAT BY YOUR UGLY WORDS, YOU WANT THE FAMILY THAT IS GRIEVING TO SUFFER EVEN MORE...NOT RIGHT !! IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE SUCH A COLD,DARK HEART. I WILL ALSO PRAY FOR PEOPLE WITH YOU THOUGHTS TO FIND PEACE AT MIND ALSO. DON'T BE SO HATEFUL, GOD DOESNT WANT HATE EITHER. A HORRIBLE THING HAPPENED TO LIL RICKY, & PLEASE PRAY FOR THE FAMILY, INCLUDING HIS MOTHER WHO MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE.

Posted by openmind805 on December 2, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, let me take the speck out of your eye, when all the time there is a plank in your eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
(Mathew 7:1-5)

Posted by GitRdone on December 2, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OPENMIND805........SEEMS AS IF YOUR POST SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO ILUVOXNARD2.
WELL STATED OPENMIND !!!

Posted by openmind805 on December 2, 2008 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you? "No one, sir," she said. " Then neither do I condemn you," " Go now and leave your life of sin."
(John 8:7-11)

Posted by GitRdone on December 2, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I DO FEEL SORRY FOR YOU "ILUVOXNARD2", BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MUCH HATRED IN YOU. I HOPE YOU FIND PEACE.

Posted by GitRdone on December 2, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TO ILUVOXNARD2,
YOU MENTIONED IN ONE OF YOUR POST, THAT "IF THE FAMILY SUFFERS, THEN THEY HAVE ONLY THE MOTHER TO BLAME" ??? WELL, YOU TOO MAKE THE FAMILY FEEL SO BAD BY POSTING SUCH HORRIBLE COMMENTS ABOUT LIL RICKY'S MOTHER. JUST LEAVE THE FAMILY ALONE & STOP POSTING THESE UGLY COMMENTS.

Posted by GitRdone on December 2, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HAVE A HEART ILUVOXNARD2.........SERIOUSLY, PLEASE LET THE FAMILY GRIEVE W/OUT YOUR UGLY COMMENTS. I HOPE YOU REALIZE THAT YOU MAKE YOURSELF SOUND LIKE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A MONSTER. YOU REALLY SHOULD WATCH WHAT YOU POST, BECAUSE ONE DAY SOMETHING MAY HAPPEN TO YOU OR BE SAID IN A DIFFERENT WAY & I DON'T WISH THAT, BUT THINGS DO HAPPEN WHEN WE LEAST EXPECT THEM. CHANGE TO BE A BETTER PERSON & HAVE A HEART. WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, WAS DONE BY MAKING THE WRONG CHOICE, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE CONDEMNING LIKE YOU ARE DOING. GROW UP NOW !!!!!!!!

Posted by getreal on December 2, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What if "lil Ricky's" mother slammed into YOUR car and killed YOUR child rather than her own? Then would you still be on here speaking about what a wonderful mother she was? Its only ok to kill your own children because then its an act of God? Get a clue GitRdone. She murdered her son, murdered him because she chose to be irresponsible. She chose this, not GOD, the murderous mother chose to MURDER her son. This could have been my son that this murder killed and believe me, I wouldn't be on here feeling sorry for the murderer. I hope she rots in jail and is reminded every day that she is a murderer.

Posted by NightLight on December 2, 2008 at 5:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay, this isn't getting anywhere. Those of you with anger and hatred toward the mother aren't going to change, nor are those of us with compassion and prayers for her. As the comments go on, it becomes less about the actual incident and more about commenters arguing with each other.

GitRDone, I know where you are coming from but you and the family will find peace sooner if you can ignore the angry comments. Remember that even the meanest comments are fueled by sorrow over what happened to the little boy, that we are all grieving and dealing with it in our own way.

I am praying for the mother, the family, and everyone involved, and so are many, many other people.

Posted by ironwoman on December 2, 2008 at 6:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What does judging have to do with this horrific crime? She is going to be judged when she goes to court. People get angry when things like this happen because it's senseless, it's irresponsible and it's horrible. It shouldn't happen. But there are stupid people in this world that don't care about others; even their own kids. People get angry when an innocent child dies. I am. I drive by the accident daily and it is sickening to think that a poor little baby died because of his Mother's irresponsiblity. That is so sad. People are angry. It shouldn't have happened.
Enough said. Those that spout "you shouldn't judge", well I hate to tell you but in this case, it's right to judge. This type of accident should be a lesson to all, our children, to not get behind the wheel when they are drunk. The ACT is judged and should be.

Posted by Itsmyright on December 2, 2008 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Would you all be saying the same thing if Tracey Gold would have killed one of her children?

I've sent a post to her asking her for an opinion. I'll post an answer when and if I receive one.

MOORPARK, Calif. (AP) -- Former "Growing Pains" actress Tracey Gold was arrested after her sport utility vehicle flipped on Highway 118, injuring her husband and two of their children. An infant was unhurt.

Tracey Gold Marshall, 35, of Valencia was booked for investigation of felony drunken driving after the Sept. 3 crash, California Highway Patrol Officer Steve Reid said Monday.

The SUV, with Marshall at the wheel, veered off eastbound Highway 118 near Princeton Avenue just before midnight and it rolled over on its way down an embankment, Reid said.

Marshall wasn't hurt, but her husband Robby Marshall, 39, suffered neck injuries, the officer said. The couple's 7-year-old son suffered a broken collar bone and a 5-year-old son was cut, but a 4-month-old son wasn't hurt, Reid said.

Officers suspected the former "Growing Pains" star was under the influence of alcohol and she was booked at County Jail. She posted $50,000 bail the following day and was released. A court date wasn't immediately available, the CHP said.

The Marshalls' home telephone number was unlisted and the actress couldn't be reached.

The actress played Carol Seaver during the seven-year run of "Growing Pains," which ended production in 1992

Posted by ironwoman on December 2, 2008 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Itsmyright- You posted this before and it's unnecessary. Tracy Gold is a "has-been" child actress that drank and drove with her family inside the car. She "could have" easily killed her children, self, and others. BUT she didn't. She doesn't rank too high in my book for her irresponsible behavior. But she was lucky and she didn't kill anyone.

This woman killed her own child. It's worse than what happened to Tracy Gold.

Your comparison is irrelevant.

Posted by hotwildflower on December 2, 2008 at 7:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tracy Gold is my hero, anorexic drunk driver...please...why is she even brought up in this. Let's talk Ritchie Sambora who was arrested for drunk driving with his daughter in the car...or not.

Just because Hollywood does it, again, does NOT make it acceptable. Stop accepting this as appropriate behavior!

Drinking and driving KILLS!

Posted by wolf9walker on December 2, 2008 at 10:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/may/...
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/tra...
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news...
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news...

Just a couple, the papers are fun of mistakes. The problem is that people don’t take their driving seriously. Day after day I see people do stupid mistakes, people need to think before they get behind the wheel then continue thinking while driving, and not about other things. They need to think about their driving.

Yesterday I saw a pickup truck on Lynn rd by Wendy go over the island and hit a sign, and keep going, he stopped at Wendy Dr red light, when the light turned green he continued on and then turned south onto knollwood, that’s when I lost him.

Stupid mistakes, people need to start driving smarter.

Posted by santabarbarasand on December 3, 2008 at 6:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Imagine how this post would be if the mom had a blood alcohol level that wasn't DUI... and her tire blew out, she lost control of the car, tried to get her kids out and was struck by an oncoming car that killed the 4 year old boy. We would be sad for her and full of compassion. When people would be saying "God took the child home" there actually would be more people agreeing with those types of statements. The fact is, the mom was drinking & driving and took away our ability to feel sad for her loss. She caused the loss by being impaired and putting her children second, or even lower than that, on her list of priorities. It is human nature for us to be upset. We WANT to feel sad but because of her irresponsible behavior, it turns that into anger at her. The family wants to be sad right now, and they need to be, and later, some will be angry with her, some will feel compassion for her and some will want to protect her. It's human nature too.

Family is unconditional love, or should be, and it's not right to attack her family for going through natural stages of grief. They didn't just lose this baby, some will lose the mother in this...for some it will be as though she is dead too. Why attack THEM? She wasn't even with her family that night, they didn't have the chance to try to prevent her from driving impaired. The boyfriend's family is another story. The mom has the ultimate blame but they do share some of it, just as anyone else does that looks the other way when we know someone has been drinking and they are getting behind the wheel... especially if they have children with them. There is lots of blame to go around, lots of anger & hurt feelings to go around. Being viscious isn't neccessary though.

ILOVEOXNARD - I can't see how it makes you feel better to launch such personal attacks. I can't help but think that something else is going on with you that is causing you to latch on so tightly to this incident that happened to someone else... I'm sorry. I hope that you can find a way to redirect your negative energy from here into something positive in your own life so that you can fix it.

Posted by GitRdone on December 3, 2008 at 7:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

SANTABARBARASAND......... I REALLY LIKE THE WAY YOU WORD THINGS. I KNOW IT ISNT RIGHT TO DRINK & DRIVE. I MYSELF DO NOT DO THAT . I FEEL SO SAD FOR THE FAMILIES AFFECTED & I JUST DON'T SEE HOW PEOPLE CAN WRITE SUCH UGLY COMMENTS TOWARD THE MOTHERS FAMILY. THE MOTHER MADE THE WORNG CHOICE TO GET BEHIND THAT WHEEL & HAS LEARNED THE HARD WAY. IT IS TOO BAD, BUT LIKE I'VE SAID IN OTHER POSTS, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL LEARN OR SHARE THIS STORY IN A WAY THAT CAN PREVENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENING TO ANY OTHER FAMILIES. GREAT POST SANTABARBARASAND.
GOD BLESS THE CARDOZA & NUNO FAMILIES. MAY YOU FIND COMFORT IN KNOWING THAT LIL RICKY IS IN THE ARMS OF OUR LORD.

Posted by opns on December 3, 2008 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Itsmyright - you need to retract and read. didn't know them. that was some elses quote. re-read.

Posted by rachaelreyes on December 3, 2008 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

to all you haters out there im sure each one of you have experienced some kind of accident, but yes this is tragic and well lucy will be paying for this very much so, there is anger and saddness, and well some love for her, and so just leave it it is done there is nothing we can do to bring this baby back, so lets just keep the baby in our prayers and his little brother david. to the cardoza familia, i know how it is to party with you hey im a reyes,,and yes we know how to party but, s--- like this should not happen. hey ,we love you all.

Posted by opns on December 3, 2008 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ILUVOXNARD2- Nice reply, isn't it strange how they always think they have the answers and come out sounding so dumb? Just listen to them speak, so uneducated. Scary huh?

I wonder if there's a vaccine for mothers and grandmothers like them. They sound rabid.

Posted by thegreatpumpkin on December 3, 2008 at 9:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To every Moron on this page who uttered the brainless, generic "don't judge" JUNK, remember this:

You have NO right to tell me not to judge. I WILL judge. I WILL stand up for what is right and tell those who do wrong to STAND DOWN. The biggest fault of our communities is the complete lack of accountability. Everyone wants to do what they want and get away with it. Everyone has an excuse. Just say don't judge me, and I'm supposed to feel bad. Well I will never feel bad "JUDGING" people and putting them in their place. Lucia's place is JAIL, and that is where she belongs.

So go ahead, tell me your excuse. Tell me Lucia's excuse. See if I care. The bottom line is I don't care. No excuse, no matter how great, can bring her child back to life. She had many options that night: Everything from calling a cab or a friend who was sober to staying home that night or, god forbid, just not drinking.

So bring it on "Don't judge" crowd, so I can judge you for lowering the standards in our country.

Posted by GitRdone on December 3, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TO ILUVOXNARD2.....THE MOTHERS OTHER CHILD IS NOT AN" IT " LIKE YOU POSTED.

She still has another child so I do hope she loses custody of that child so it has a chance.

SHOWS HOW " COLD HEARTED " YOU REALLY ARE !! I DO FEEL FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TOO. THANK GOODNESS THERE ARE FEW.

Posted by Itsmyright on December 3, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't think a trial will be in ventura county, to much publicity. With so many people saying they are going to D.A. office. I wonder if one of the questions from the jury pick will be " have any of you made comments in any way regarding this case publicly or anonymously. Would we swear to the truth or lie just to be picked?

Posted by famousinfilltown on December 3, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

my condolences go out to both the cardozas and nuno fam.ive know the cardozas for a very long time and they are all really good people,but like everyone else in this world make bad choices at times,this is one of those times.i just want to say to all the people out there talking bad on her(lucy),this can hit home at any time remember that,anything can happen to anyone at any givin time no ones perfect.so god forbid this hits home to anyone of you out there saying nasty comments abuot this situation we'll see if ur still talking s..t then.i bet u a million bucks u would see everything different,so until then keep ur mean comments to ursef........R.I.P RICKY NUNO JR.

Posted by rachaelreyes on December 3, 2008 at 9:23 a.m.

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Posted by rachaelreyes on December 3, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

well for your info the van that was hit was drunk driving aND THE CAR BEHIND THAT ONE.I KNOW FOR A AFACT

Posted by GitRdone on December 3, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ILUVOXNARD2......YOU ARE SO COLD HEARTED !!!

I ALREADY KNOW THAT DRUNK DRIVING & ESPECIALLY WITH CHILDREN IS WRONG. SO SQUASH THAT ALREADY. YOU MUST NOT TAKE YOUR UNHAPPINESS OUT ON THE FAMILIES THAT ARE GRIEVING, SO STOP TALKING BADLY ALREADY.
BELIEVE ME, I AM NOT ANGRY WITH YOUR COMMENTS, I JUST THINK IT MAKES YOU SOUND SO LIKE YOU ARE A COLD & UGLY PERSON. WHAT HAPPENED SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. JUST PRAY FOR THE FAMILIES.

SO YES, YOU ARE THE ONE COLD HEARTED.

Posted by thegreatpumpkin on December 3, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'll back you completely on that one ILUVOXNARD2. People who say not to speak badly of those who do wrong are typically wrongdoers themselves, trying to ease the burdens of their own conscience. They say it could easily be you, because it could easily be THEM. It couldn't easily be me because I make better choices when it comes to the well being of my family.

We need people to stand up, as a society, and condemn those who do wrong. That is the most blatant problem as a nation. There is no longer a set of mores that are instilled in the heads of our young ones. Instead it is a "me first" mentallity we see emerging from this subculture and draining our productive members of society. Personally, I feel being chastised by a member of this subculture is a good thing.

Posted by openmind805 on December 3, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

May the Lord judge between you and me. And may the Lord avenge the wrongs you have done to me, but my hand will not touch you. As the old saying goes, 'From evildoers come evil deeds,' so my hand will not touch you.
( 1 Samuel 24:12-13)

Posted by thegreatpumpkin on December 3, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That would work perfectly, provided everyone is reading the same book you are openmind. But the fact is they aren't, or if they say they are, they only read the parts that make themselves feel good.

The fact remains that society as a whole needs to pressure itself into doing the right thing. There are people who need to be publicly made an example of, and Lucia is a perfect candidate.

Posted by myveiw7 on December 3, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well said great pumkin.Im sure the boyfreind and others she was drinking with that night would not want there names given, so they can also be know as a baby killer.I guess there going to let her stand trial all by herself.So much for love, mercy,and God and the truth shall set you free!!!

Posted by noonespecial on December 3, 2008 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This story breaks my heart....I am so tired of hearing about parents who take their children for granted. Whether it is driving under the influence with the child in the car, abusing them physically, emotionally, or neglecting them in another of the numerous ways seen, I think it’s sad that parents don’t see what treasures their children are. I have three and am aware of how truly blessed I am to have each of them. I also know that they rely on me to support, protect and love them and I could never imagine putting them in harms way willingly. It’s amazing that so many parents in Ventura County don’t agree.

Posted by opns on December 3, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DEATH Penalty is in order. 1st degree!! And no less.

Chain gang the grandmother for speaking garbage.

Should take responsibility for her daughters actions. But no, she's encouraging her to kill the other.

Posted by capt_jack on December 3, 2008 at 3:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rachelreyes- This isn't an accident. Any person with a brain knows that this is pure negligence and murder.

Posted by thegreatpumpkin on December 3, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It would be great, myview, if they could be held to answer on accessory counts, but we would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they knew she was drinking and driving and allowed her to do so. I hope the D.A. has what it takes to do that.

Posted by rachaelreyes on December 3, 2008 at 5:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

capt_jack ay well ok this wasnt an accident because she shouldnt got in her car drunk, but, she intentionally didnt mean to kill her baby.
you may say she did because of her drunkness, but, you know all this is all ugly, and well it is expected to hear all of this, (baby killer, and so on)

Posted by hotwildflower on December 3, 2008 at 7:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DRINKING AND DRIVING KILLS!!!

Posted by myveiw7 on December 3, 2008 at 8:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rachaelreyes Stupid people drinking and driving kills.

Posted by GitRdone on December 3, 2008 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LEAVE THE GRANDMOTHER OUT OF THIS. SHE DID NOT FORCE HER DAUGHTER TO GET BEHIND THE WHEEL WHILE DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE, IF INFACT THAT IS THE CASE.
I SAY IT THAT WAY BECAUSE ILUVOXNARD2 & A FEW OTHERS TALK AS IF THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AS IF THEY WERE THERE. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF IN FACT SHE WAS DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE, THAT WAS THE WRONG CHOICE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE OUTCOME OF LOSING A CHILD.
PRAY FOR ALL FAMILIES/FRIENDS/READERS AFFECTED.

Posted by myveiw7 on December 3, 2008 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

F.Y.I. Then why did she drive drunk???? RACHAELREYES.Of course it's UGLY!!!!!!!!!!

She killed her innocent Baby!!!!

Posted by myveiw7 on December 3, 2008 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GitRdone YOU SOUND AS IF YOU WHERE THERE.

Posted by WolfWalker on December 3, 2008 at 9:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I love people who quote the bible; sometimes they’re the 1st to brake the word. or bend it.

Posted by NightLight on December 3, 2008 at 11:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One of the things that is most incredulous to me is that people don't understand defending a friend or family member. If the mother was your sister, daughter, mother, or friend, would you sit by while people call for her to be put to death? And don't say that no one I love would be in that position - no one exercises perfect judgment every moment of their life. Maybe no one you know has ever driven drunk but everyone who has ever driven a car has at some time driven while sleepy, talking on a cell phone or to someone in the car, or otherwise distracted, and could but for the grace of God caused an equally horrific accident. I can't imagine your sitting idly by while people call your loved one an evil, horrible person who should be killed.

People are not one-dimensional. This accident was only one incident, a split second, in a 24 year life.

And yes, it was an accident. She did not intentionally set out to kill her child. It was an accident that was caused by bad judgment certainly, but it was an accident.

For the last time, no one is condoning what happened. I haven't even seen anyone suggest that she shouldn't be punished for what happened. No one is minimizing the tragedy that occurred. But just as it is normal to feel anger for what happened, it is also normal for people to defend their daughter, sister, or friend. I know I would.

Posted by blurose on December 4, 2008 at 3:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ILUVOXNARD2- so just because the family lost someone means they shouldnt be on the internet defending their loved ones? hmmm i wonder if sumthing like this happened to you would you not want to know what BITTER people like YOU are saying. you talk like youre such a great mother and the family should be worrying about other things besides being on here,but yet you sit here all day talking crap back and forth. shouldnt you be taking care of your own children?who knows what theyre doing while youre sitting at your computer for hours!!

LIL RICKY YOU R IN OUR HEARTS AND MEMORIES 4EVER..DAVID WE R GLAD U R OK..AND LUCY WE R ALL PRAYING 4 U.

Posted by lilmiss_sunshine on December 4, 2008 at 9:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

GitRdone.. you are really making your self sound worse, everyone on here is pissed that an innocent life was taken while lucy was boozed up.

You should understand there will always be negative reactions especially with a story like this.

If you didn't know Lucy you would be saying the same exact thing..SHE KILLED HER SON FOR DRINKING AND DRIVING!! no excuse's she made that choice and now for her dumb mistake she no longer has a son and won't even be there to lay him to rest because she herslef is still suffering.

You need to really just relax and ignore all this if it really gets to you but just imagine if it was someone else who killed lil ricky and they where drunk, you would be on here talking sh** about them, right? EXACTLY!

Posted by opns on December 4, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ILUVOXNARD2 -- DITTO DITTO AND DITTO, I agree with you 100% and more. You must be the cam?

Posted by myveiw7 on December 4, 2008 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ILUVOXNARD2, I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm glad some of us are on the same page.

Posted by Relvd98 on December 4, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think many of us share the same opinions with those of ILUVOXNARD2. Therefore, we shouldn't be labeled as "heartless, cold-hearted", etc.

Posted by opns on December 4, 2008 at 11:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Relvd98 - you are so right!! we are very loving and warm hearted and caring. And we definately love and protect our children. Amen to that.

Posted by opns on December 4, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I for one protected my girl like nothing else. I was the most over protective mom ever. and so proud of it. She's my life and always will be. I would never put her in harms way. Not even sleep overs, hel_ no. I look forward to becoming a grandmother. I know i'll be the best. Straight from the heart.

Love your children. They are our #1 Priority, other than self.

Posted by Relvd98 on December 4, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

opns: good for you, I'm sure you will be an awesome grandmother one day =)

Posted by opns on December 4, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ILUVOXNARD2 - you love Oxnard? Since When?

Posted by opns on December 4, 2008 at 1:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh never mind, I remember Kumbaya. I know you love oxnard.

Posted by pkc4real on December 5, 2008 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ventura county star
Do you employ high school drop outs to write these articles? The english is appalling and sentence stucture is grade school.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on December 5, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

opns , I am a Grama of a one year old and its the most prescious blessing in the world!!!!
Actually I think the hate has gone on way too much. She will suffer. She and her son paid the ultimate price. I think we should all offer up our prayers for the family and the infant. Even the Mother. Hate is NOT good for the soul.......
We have all spoken our opinion, some of us ALOT !
God be with this family and the Nunos family!

Posted by opns on December 5, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you Anna, we all know, the shock the awe of this tragic event made us all sick to our stomach, for the 1st days we all spewed and became angry, it is so natural of our human nature to do this. I have been praying for all of this family. I don't hate, i become angry at the acts. Hate is a very powerful word, and a wise lady once told to becareful how i use this word and becareful not to carry this in my heart. So when I speak it is not of hate, but of anger and shock.

Congradulations on your one year old, your so blessed. I know Anna your a nice person, and thank you once again.

Sincerely

Posted by opns on December 5, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cam, i pray she won't get out and do it again. I pray for justice too. I do pray for this family.
but i still wish the death penalty was in force, and I do wish that chain gang would be enacted.
Dosen't mean we hate.

Posted by mykidz1st805 on December 5, 2008 at 5:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow! So much anger and hate here. I'm not saying that I hate what Lucy has done, but I will say that I am angry that she grew up to be a baby killer, murderer, and a selfish drunk. I hope that the district attorney files a murder one charge and if possible ask for the death penalty. For it is an eye for an eye......I would never wish this on anyone, but I find myself wishing that she would have died, and not that beautiful child. I remember when she was in jail, Ricky would have his son everywhere with him. Now it will break my heart everyday when I see Ricky without his baby. He has shown class and strength, while the Cardoza family has shown that it's all about protecting Lucy like it has been ever since she was little.

Posted by rosybabyNCrooks on December 5, 2008 at 10:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Coming from a real mom.. I think it's selfish of these irresponsible moms who choose to drag their children around while they live the lives they choose to whether it involves drinking and driving or doing drugs all hours of the night... How hard is it to ask someone to watch their kids so that they can go and through away their own lives... I hope she rots in jail and that the DA makes her pay for taking the life of her own sons.. She robbed lil ricky from his dreams! How can her mom post in the paper that her daughter shouldn't be judge and that she's a good person and loved her kids.. she sure wasn't thinking about their well being when she drove off.. drink 3x the limit and failed to secure her kids in the car... I have a personal message for her when she gets out.. if she ever does!!!!! She better pray they keep her A** locked away! My prayers and thoughts go out to lil Ricky's dad Panda *** We love you Homie *** Keep your head up through it all.. He's in a better place with the grace of GOD He'll always be remember and loved.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on December 6, 2008 at 8:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ILUVOXNARD2,
"We have all spoken our opinion, some of us ALOT !"

Now WHO could you be speaking of??? Hmmmmm???

I you deal with it your way, I'll deal with it mine.

You pray for them, I'll pray for Justice.

HUH? I you deal with it your way????
I am praying for them , also for Justice if she is found guilty. Hate is bad for the soul, and spewing it everyday is a bit much. ya think?
mykidz1st805 ,Just curious ,why didn't the Dad have Custody?

Posted by openmind805 on December 6, 2008 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The father would not have been able to have custody of Lil Riky because 1. His active and dangerous gang life and 2. His numerous drug charges ( 11550's)

Posted by AnnaWhaat on December 7, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

opns, Thankyou for the compliment! You sound very intelligent yourself! Merry Christmas!!!

openmind8,Have him go back to court. I have seen it done. As long as its been a period of time since his actions. MEN DO get custody of thier kids.......I KNOW!!!!!!!

Posted by mykidz1st805 on December 7, 2008 at 4:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What about Lucy's 11550's or did someone conveniently forget that? I think she should not regain custody of her other son because she obviously has never learn any lessons in her life other than party, party, party....and look what happened as a result of this "good mother" always putting her kids first. The district attorney needs to take all of her criminal record into consideration so he can know just what kind of person he is dealing with.

Posted by wnavarro on December 8, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Even though we never met little Ricky, my husband knows his father. Our condolonces goes to Panda and his family. May little Ricky rest in peace.

In a baby castle, just beyond your eye,
Your baby plays with angel toys that money cannot buy.
Who are you to wish him back into this world of strife,
Play on your baby, he'll have eternal life.
At night when all is silent and sleep forsakes your eyes,
You'll hear his tiny footsteps come running to your side
His little hands caress you so tenderly and sweet,
You'll breathe a prayer and close your eyes and embrace him in your sleep.
Now you have a treasure that you rate above all others
You have known true glory,
You are still his father!

Posted by AnnaWhaat on December 10, 2008 at 4:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wnavarro ,That was very Beautiful!!

Posted by sp_1_26 on December 12, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hi does anybody know if the funural already took place? I havent heard anything my condolences go out to lil ricky's family I knew him and lucy he came to my house a couple times and played with my son. he will be dearly missed

Posted by lasleepy805 on December 13, 2008 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

my condolences to panda and his family i hope you are doing ok. you will be in our prayers

Posted by Brew62 on December 23, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Regardless if it is the mother's fault or not. It is not for you to judge her. She has paid for her mistake by losing her son, and she will regret it day after day for the rest of her life. That in itself is punishment. Before you call the kettle black, ask yourself if you are a good driver. How many times have you cut off people? How many times have you made an error in judgement that caused or almost caused a traffic accident? Have you ever received a traffic ticket? How many times have you held up traffic because you had to stop and stare at a car accident on the 101 Freeway? Doing so causes traffic congestion, which in turn causes impatience and more of a chance of a rear-end collision. In the last three years, I have been rear-ended several times. Do you drive with a hands free device for your cell phone? Do you text on your cell phone while driving? How many times have you been behind someone with their cell phone to their ear while driving and they are either weaving back and forth or driving slow in the third acceleration lane? This causes more traffic congestion and distraction. Has the recent Amtrak train derailment taught us anything? Did you know that the more than half of Californians obtain car insurance only during the time of their car registration only to cancel it later to save money when it is mandated by law? And how many of you will go to a X-mas party this year, drink at that location and drive home? Food for thought: Two years ago, I called the police due to a neighbor holding a very obnoxiously loud X-mas party on X-mas Eve that was extending into X-mas morning. The reason why it was loud was because the parents were drinking at the family celebration. The police break it up, and tell them to go home. The police allowed the drunken parents to drive the children home.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on December 29, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brew62 ,FYI, If someone cancels thier insurance the DMV is notified. Or if they let it lapse. And thier registration is no longer valid, even if they have thier tags and card.