Posted by janabanana71 on November 28, 2008 at 7:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What a devastating morning in news briefs!

Posted by Rocket81 on November 28, 2008 at 8 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Go to www.kvta.com for much more information.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on November 28, 2008 at 8:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is so sad. My Condolences to the parents of the infant baby. I can not imagine your loss. My prayers are with you.
And again my Condolences to the three men who lost thier lives in the water. Such a tragic day for all.........

Posted by RedTail on November 28, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My condolences too to the family of the child, and the family of the three boys on Mugu rock. And a thank you to Kathryn Barrona for trying to rescue one of them.

Posted by Mister_S on November 28, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear Kathyrn Barrona-
Thank you for your selfless actions on Thanksgiving day, in your rescue attempt at Mugu Rocks. By entering the dangerous waters of the Pacific yesterday you have shown yourself to be an exemplary citizen and someone who's courage is personally inspirational.
Signed- Your #1 Fan.

Posted by opns on November 28, 2008 at 9:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What a true act of heroism.
Sincerely condolances.

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Posted by rachaelreyes on November 28, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

to my lil sister lucy, my heart and my love goes out to you and your family. im really sorry to hear what happen, but,god has called your lil one to be an angel up above and i will keep you in my prayers and remeber we love you!!!!!!!!!!!
your friend and sister in love
rachel reyes & family

Posted by missing805 on November 28, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

She decides to get in a cra drunk, and God was the one that wanted the little one in heaven?? Come on people wke up.. tyake credit for your stupidity... This aint a religious forum, but we need to start blaming God for our actions...

Posted by noonespecial on November 28, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

missing805 I was thinking the same thing when I read rachael's post. It was not God that decided to take this little boy, it was his mom's selfish behavior!

Posted by rachaelreyes on November 28, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

whatever to u missing805 ay it was her stupidity to even get in the car drunk, and you dont even know what i meant by that. when someone dies yes they are called by god. but, at times it by someones stupidity. so whatever i dont care or give a sh*** what u think

Posted by nlchoppers on November 28, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is very sad and very tragic, my friends and I were the first ones at the scene and let me tell you it was very sad seeing everything the way it was and not being able to do a darn thing. But maybe instead of talking smak we should pray for the little boy, no one is perfect and we all make mistakes, unfortunetly this mistake cost the life of a little boy, and I am sure the mother is feeling the pain as it is, we dont need to make things worse

Posted by smithjc on November 28, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

maybe i'll comment about this baby killer after i've had a chance to calm down. that may take a while.

Posted by macfowl on November 28, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

givin the time of the accident, she was probably finishing up her bar hoping, while the kids waited in the car. My heart goes out to the children.

Posted by noonespecial on November 28, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nlchoppers you are right, this story is very sad and very tragic and I'm sorry that you had to see its aftermath. However, DUI with your children in the car is not a mistake, it's selfishness. This mother knew the dangers of driving while intoxicated and chose to do it anyway. Her children relied on her to get them home safely, yet she felt her desire to drink was more important. How can that be called a mistake?

Posted by nlchoppers on November 28, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

noonespecial: you have a point, but I dont believe any mother means to do their kids any harm, it is just wrong choices that people make that end up like this, but she is going to carry this for the rest of her life and we are no one to judge

Posted by MarineOne on November 28, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This story was so tragic that even the L.A.Times had an article about it. They however didn't add the awful details of the child in the childseat being ejected onto the center divider.What a visual. Way to go Star, you are such a class act.

Posted by nojustice_justus on November 28, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tragic story but why all the ignorant sleuthing as to where she was (barhopping) along with the other critical posts? It won't bring the child back. nlchoppers said it on point. Whatever? your name speaks for itself.

I am aware that some of the posters can walk on water so I guess that gives them the priviledge to act in the manner they do.

Posted by nlchoppers on November 28, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

whatever: I am not making excuses for anyone, we are all responsible for our own actions, and no one is perfect, but pointing your finger at her for what happened doesnt make you a better citizen, i was there and all I can see is the little boy, are you going to point your finger at me too and tell me there was something I could have done? There wasnt! And it was super hard for me to not cry.

Posted by noonespecial on November 28, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nlchoppers, when a mother beats her child, she is meaning to do harm. When a mother makes a conscious decision to put her child in a situation that can cost them their life, she is meaning to do harm. There are no mistakes about that!

You are correct in the fact that I have no right to judge this person because I am far from perfect. However, children have no voice. They rely on adults to take care of them and make good decisions for them but so many times that does not happen because adults are too busy “making mistakes”!

Posted by nojustice_justus on November 28, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nlchoppers--no need to defend yourself. There are some thick skulled individuals in this world who suffer from myopia.

People like yourself will be rewarded. While you were helpless as far as being able to do something, just stopping to see if you could help speaks for itself.

Its times like this that the riggers of being an emergency responder are tested by horrific events.

Posted by santabarbarasand on November 28, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How come you didn't cry? I wasn't there but just reading about it makes me feel like crying. Those children didn't have a choice, but the mother did, and she made a tragic one. If what she did has an impact on someone else who is out drinking, at a bar, or a family or friend party this holiday season, maybe they will recall this situation and think twice. Bad things happen, we are all just human, but they happen for a reason, so that others can learn from them. Excusing behavior like this mother's does no good for anyone. Be sad for the life lost and hope for the quick healing of the other child, whose condition has not been revealed.

And yes, that mother SHOULD be chastised and charged for her illegal actions. She had the worst natural consequences, with the loss of her child, but that may not prevent her from drinking and driving in the future.

Here's hoping this situation is an example that prevents others from drinking and driving, especially with their children in the car! I imagine she was at a holiday dinner and had a few drinks with everyone and maybe she didn't realize how much she imbibed. That is giving her the benefit of the doubt. Is it so farfetched from what many people do this time of year? You don't realize how much you drank until you're behind the wheel, or sometimes, not even until you get home and feel the buzz. No excuse, but how it is so often. Please everyone, watch out for your friends and family this holiday season and help prevent this stuff from happening!

Posted by nlchoppers on November 28, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

noonespecial: all I am saying is that what is done is done, I am sure that she wasnt the only person under the influence lastnight, but she is the only person that I know of that lost a child, and me pointing my finger at what choice she made doesnt make me a better person, we all make mistakes. Yes this one cost the life of a young boy and I cant stop thinking about that, it will be a long time before I can erase what I saw, but like I said we are no one to judge, we are not all perfect, pray for the boy and for their family

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on November 28, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kathyrn Barrona, you are an example of what is good in our society.

Lucia Cardoza, your actions speak for themselves.

Posted by Itsmyright on November 28, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THIS IS A VERY SAD STORY, OUR CONDOLANCES TO THE CARDOZA FAMILY.

Posted by ByeBye on November 28, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wonder if this little boy was in a proper car seat? Double mistake on the parent if he was not.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on November 28, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

missing805 ,I don't feel she was blaming God. Perhaps comforting her that the baby is in a better place then us. But she was negligent. NOW that wasn't put in the morning news when I read it this morning. She should never have done that. And now her childs death is in her hands and she has to live with it. I hate to see any family suffer so I do offer my Condolences.
Although I would never drink then plan to drive, we do not know all the circumstances. Perhaps she drank some earlier in the day. It was Thanksgiving. Then waited until the alcohol was worn off (she thought). I will not Judge but I would NEVER drink if I knew I had to drive anytime that day. Especially with my children.
Plus I do not drink.I am praying for the little boy to live.

Posted by nojustice_justus on November 28, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whatever---Can you find anywhere in my post whereby I said drinking and driving is OK? That is the myopia in you not being able to comprehend what is actually stated as compared to what you are 'seeing'. Remove the blinders. Oh the use of the word stupid...and your IQ is?

No thank you...but the individuals on this board can feel as they wish. You're not all that. Drop the 'holier than thou' spiel and get in with the real.

Posted by AngryYouth on November 28, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Way too many excuses being made here for a drunk driving baby killer.

nlchoppers - "No one is perfect." Are you kidding ME!!! We aren't talking about getting about a bad grade in school or coloring outside the lines. A child is dead by a drunk driving mother and a child seat that was not seat belted in. If it was it wouldn't have come out. This child will never have another birthday or Christmas again and you have audacity to say "no one is perfect".

Annawhat - "We don't know all the circumstances." Are you kidding me AGAIN." She was intoxicated and a baby is dead. Stop making excuses for her when you even admit you don't even know all the circumstances.

I wish people would take half the effort making people responsible for their actions instead of making all their effort trying to making excuses. And what's this with we don't have a right to judge people. Who made this crap up. A drunk driver crashed and now a baby is dead. Everyone, including myself, has a right to judge this killer.

Posted by jamaro099 on November 28, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AngryYouth and whatever; It is one thing hold Lucia responsible and get upset over the situation but it is obvious to many of us that you are using this tragedy to place yourselves on a pedestal.

There was a second child in the accident. Do you think your words and attitude will help and/or comfort that child (assuming Lucia is the mom). Do you think that child would want to hear from other what a terrible mother Lucia was? Is that the right way to approach the situation?

Assuming all that was reported is true Lucia will get no sympathy from me; However, now is a time for sympathy and compassion for those close to her that are left to deal with this tragedy.

My sympathies go out to the family and friends who are grieving.

Posted by Comments on November 28, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What a horribly tragic story. I'm so very sorry to hear of the senseless loss of this little baby. Many of you have been speculating about where this woman was prior to the accident and admonishing her for being out so late with her children. It was Thanksgiving for goodness sake! I will speculate and say that she was likely celebrating the holiday with family and the celebrations clearly went on too long. I think you'll find that many families were on the roads very late returning to their homes after the holiday. Hopefully all those drivers were sober.

I DO NOT make any excuses for the mother's behavior and if it's proven she was drunk then that disgusts me. Unlike some likely hypocrites here I have NEVER, not once ever, driven while intoxicated. I'm in my mid 40s and I do like to drink wine and do so often enough. However, I would never get behind the wheel - not even after one glass. I don't know many adults who can make that claim. I suspect we have lots of holier than thou folks here on this board. I'd bet that many of the loudest critics have driven while intoxicated at least once in their lives. Luckily no one was killed (at least I hope not) in those instances.

This woman lost her son, and it appears his loss was due to her own negligence. I'm not sure how she'll live with that. I know it would destroy me. I have a 3 yr old and stories like this just make my heart ache. No matter what this woman did, today she is a mother who is mourning her child. Again, I make NO excuses for her actions. And, if she's found guilty of DUI then I'll want her punished fully. I know though that there's no punishment that will match the anguish she's very likely to feel.

And, my heart especially goes out to the surviving child. I just can't imagine.

Posted by vmn1213 on November 28, 2008 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MY CONDOLANCES TO THE FAMILY OF THE LIL BOY. I LIVE A HALF A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE FREEWAY WHERE THE CRASH WAS, AND WHAT I HEARD WAS TERRIBLE,TREE BRANCHES BRAKING,TIRES SCREECHING,A LOUD BANG AND A BABY CRYING...SOOO TERRIBLE.

Posted by nlchoppers on November 28, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well like I said before, no one is perfect! But what is done is done. She made the choice of drinking and driving a choice that many people make because they are too drunk to think straight, but she did lose a child, no punishment givin to her will be worse than that. I WAS THERE! Did I go lecture her about drinking and driving?NO! Stop pointing at what she did wrong, I am sure she alreadly knows. Instead pray for the child that lost his life. This is not the first case or the last, all I can say after seeing what I saw is PLEASE THINK BEFORE YOU DRINK. And if you know someone has had too much to drink dont let them get behind the wheel, everyone is responsible for what they do but if we can avoid a situation like this mornings, we should.

Posted by opns on November 28, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Poor babies, always the victims of stupit foolish drunk drivers. And at that, the parent. So many americans would love to adopt, but no no, leave the child with those alcoholic negligent parents right? What a sick system.

Posted by FedUp on November 28, 2008 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

signs of being a bad mother.
1. out with children at 2:30 am. check!
2. child not restrained properly. check!
3. being drunk while driving to your next destination. check!

I am going to go out on a limb here, and say both kids have different fathers who were not in the picture as well. this stupid idiot needs to be strung up and left to die a horrible death. her "unharmed" child needs to be adopted out by a couple who will actually take care of them.

sorry, not feeling too PC today. stuff like this really takes me out of the holiday spirit.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on November 28, 2008 at 5:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AngryYouth,Hold on cowboy!! I will NOT come on here and bad mouth the Mother. Now if I knew for a fact she was drinking all day and didn't try to sleep awhile and knew she was drunk,then I would have. But for Gods Sake a child is dead and a little boy in the hospital. Try praying for them instead of spraying your anger!!!! It won't do you any good now. AND I NEVER said she was in the right. So CHECK yourself!
Comments , I couldn't have said it better.
nlchoppers ,I Thank you for stopping. I can only imagine how you must have felt having to witness the situation. Also you Comment says it all..........Thankyou !!

Posted by santabarbarasand on November 28, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay so if a parent endangers their child, and the child dies, then the parent has suffered punishment enough? What kind of logic is that! Driving while intoxicated is a KNOWN risk factor and not properly securing a young child in a child seat is a KNOWN risk factor as well. What she did is like holding your kid by the shoe from the top of a cliff and the shoe falling off... the parent didn't throw them off the cliff, guess their sadness is consequence enough? That's ludicrous.

Posted by nlchoppers on November 28, 2008 at 5:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

all i can say is pray for the little boy and for the family, dont point your fingers at the mother, at least not now. God is the one that will judge her, and we are not god.

Posted by nojustice_justus on November 28, 2008 at 6:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Anna-don't you realize there actually are SOME perfect people in this World? Like AngryYute? LOL.
Comments: very nice take on the big picture of this situation. I couldn't have said it better-especially the thought of her possibly being at a Thanksgiving get together, as compared to 'bar hopping and leaving the kids in a car'.

Whatevah can't answer my question as to their allegation of my promoting drinking and driving.
Now she thinks I am a relative of the family. Wow.
I'm sorry about the blinders thing. Its obvious you're blindfolded and taking a stab in the dark. Thanks for the amuzement.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on November 28, 2008 at 6:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

santabarbarasand ,I am not saying she isn't at fault cause she certainly is. And it angers me. But I will not put the family through more misery then they are in. Its not just the Mother, the Dad and Grandparents and Aunts and Uncles etc are all suffering. I am sure she will probably do prison time. But I will leave that to the courts.
nlchoppers,Very well said, A little boy may also die. He NEEDS prayer and well thoughts.

Posted by CamMommy on November 28, 2008 at 7:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am sure the mother will never be able to forgive herself for the poor choices she made lastnight, I just hope she can pull herself together for the child who survived. My condolences to the family!! I never could in a million years understand the pain they are going through...my prayers are with you!

Posted by rachaelreyes on November 28, 2008 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LUCY YOU WILL ALWAYS BE LOVED AND SO WILL THE CARDOZA FAMILY, BE STRONG YOU GUYS AND PRAY BAD CHOICES WERE MADE BUT, LETS NOT DO IT TWICE.

Posted by n72ponce on November 28, 2008 at 8:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First of all I would like to say thank you to nichoppers for having the heart to stop and help. I too recognize the horrible mistake Lucy made. But jumping into a witch hunt will not change what has happened. Lucy's fate will be decided in the judicial system. I can not imagine the grief the Cardoza family is enduring right now. My thoughts and prayers are with you all,

Posted by nlchoppers on November 28, 2008 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

their is nothing to thank me for, we did what we could, which was not much but call 911

Posted by NowHearThis on November 28, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Another tragic accident that most definitely didn't have to happen. When will people realize that drinking alcohol and driving have dire consequences. That's why I drink diet cola most of the time...maybe one alcohol drink a month, (followed up by water or a diet cola).

Posted by thegreatpumpkin on November 28, 2008 at 9:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If I had the choice, I'd like to be the one who throws the switch on this pitiful, selfish excuse for a mother and watch her fry.

But the truth is, death is too good. I, for one, am elated that she gets to wake up and look herself in the face every morning. She can stare her own child's killer in the eyes daily. She can try and sleep in the same bed as the person gave her child the gift of life, then took it away on the cold black asphalt.

She's her own albatross. Yeah, she'll get jail time, but her real punishment is SO much better than a cell.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on November 28, 2008 at 10:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks, FedUp. I'd be willing to bet that she is a breeder.

Posted by NightLight on November 29, 2008 at 12:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow Fedup and Equitable_Enforcer, you bring conjecture to a whole new low.

It's disturbing how people on here are getting criticized and attacked for feeling sympathy and compassion for another human being.

Posted by dhopes on November 29, 2008 at 12:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My prayers go out to this childs family.May God comfort you and be at you side.
I cant get this story out of my mind I've been thinking abou this all day. And all I can think of is what was this mother doing out at this hour with her little ones, and if she had been drinking (suspicion of DUI)why did anyone not stop her from leaving? Could she have fallen asleep? God bless you Cardoza family

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Posted by AnnaWhaat on November 29, 2008 at 7:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

handyhood ,or drive !!!!!!!!

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Posted by nlchoppers on November 29, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

come on people.. what is wrong with everyone? she f**ked up and the life of HER son was lost, not anyone elses, Bush f**ked up going to war in Iraq, do you call him a human killer? no. I was there and I dont know how Lucy got out of her car with her youngest boy with her leg all tore up,but she did and she was sitting on the shoulder crying for help and asking for her son, and me knowing what happened didnt have the guts to tell her, the only words that could come out of my mouth were" just relax and calm down, its going to be ok" knowing it wasnt. So my friends and I saw what she was going through, and she never once forgot about her son. Yes it is as tragedy that could have been avoided, but it wasnt. For the people pointing fingers and saying how bad of a mother she is, does that make you a better person? I dont think so. To the Cardoza family, I very sorry. And I am sorry that I couldnt do anything for the child, I feel worthless, but there was nothing I could do, my family, my friends and I will pray for your family.

Posted by NightLight on November 29, 2008 at 1:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nlchoppers, you're amazing, please don't feel like you have to defend your feelings or actions to anyone. It's obvious that some people here just don't get it, and never will get it.

As I posted in today's story, it's incredible to me that not only are people going after Ms. Cardoza but they are attacking any of her family and friends that post here as well, as if they aren't going through enough right now.

Rachael reyes, God bless you and your family, I know he will be with you all during this tragic time.

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Posted by NightLight on November 29, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anna, who is the thief/drug addict/gangbanger? The driver?

Posted by what805 on November 29, 2008 at 9:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So Sad, I saw the sedan and it was totaled. My condolences and prayers go out to the family of the kid. Hope the others have a fast recovery.

Posted by opns on November 29, 2008 at 10:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In other words:

Morning Report: Woman kills her own son due to Drunk Driving in Santa Paula Crash.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on November 30, 2008 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NightLight ,Your last sentence above mine.

Posted by NightLight on November 30, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Anna, I apologize if my comment seemed intended for you because it wasn't. It seems you know, or know something about, one of the people who is posting here, which is different than those who are randomly attacking friends or family members of the driver who they know nothing about. I should have been more specific, I'm sorry if you took my comment personally because it wasn't you that I was thinking of.

Posted by ironwoman on November 30, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This woman is a killer and she is irresponsible. She should not be a mother. Any person that drinks and drives with their child inside the vehicle should not be a parent.

It's called "Vehicular Manslaughter"...as in killing another person. She should get life in prison. Drinking and driving isn't a "mistake" either so stop minimizing her actions.

Posted by latejana on November 30, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to thank the people who have sent their condolences to our family, and to those who have passed judgment on my little sister, i'm sure that many of you have family members who are not perfect. You were also young at one time and i'm sure partied and drove after having a "few", only you got away with it. And with the holidays coming and all the company parties, how many of you will drink and drive? So I am please asking everyone to respect the fact that this tragedy has affected families from both sides. The loss of our Lil' "Spiderman", Ricky is something my sis will have to live with for the rest of her life, and she knows what her future holds. We are grateful that David is okay, but his future is also affected by this but he has enough family to love him. So instead of judging my sis, please offer her and our family your prayers,as we are all brothers and sisters in Christ, those of us who believe in God.
There is only one person in the most highest who can judge her and he is our Lord and Creator. I am not justifying what she did because it was wrong. Our families are suffering enough without having to see all these negative comments. So before you keep throwing stones, take a look and reflect on your own life past and present. God Bless Everyone.

Posted by FedUp on November 30, 2008 at 8 p.m. (Suggest removal)

drinking and driving with a bunch of your drunk friends is one thing. drinking and driving with your children (not properly restrained) is a whole nother level of stupidity. my condolences to the competent family members who will be missing this child. I have zero sympathy for the breeder, drunk mom.

Posted by opns on November 30, 2008 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

latejana-- For the most part, the comments from people here are sick and tired of hearing of crap like what your sister did. We hear about this over and over again. When will people learn? This time is just happened to be your family. In which most of the people feel sad for your nephew and not for your sister. Yes we all have compassion and give our condolances. I know many many many people who have never had 1 bear, I myself use to drive people home from parties in my younger days. Everyone called me the taxi driver. And i taught my own what alcohol does to a person. Obviously your sister never received sound judgement. Yes Judgement. We have a system in the US, (JURY). And yes God is the ultimate judge.

Many of us become shocked due to stupidity like this. And all we can think about is this poor child, and not your sister. We just send our condolances to you and your family. Your sister, I happen to feel like the others, no mercy - I hope your sister gets what she deserves.

God Bless you all at this time.

Posted by opns on November 30, 2008 at 8:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rachaelreyes - oh - and god did not take the baby, he allowed it to happen in the hands of this killer. A mother she was not!!

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Posted by opns on November 30, 2008 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://805moms.com/?page=mom_resources
http://805moms.com/groups
(read and take heed)
Here's a pleasant resource for drunken moms any any other mom and dad, get your act together. Look at the faces of loving and caring mommies. It is such a joy to see happy children with loving mommies.

Call a Taxi: Save a Life and call a Taxi
http://805vigilantes.blogspot.com/200...

"DID YOU CALL YOUR D.A.D.?

Print this and hang by your door or fridge.
Folks use your senses.

Posted by NightLight on November 30, 2008 at 11:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Latejana, that was very well spoken. Please know that many of us, including many who read the story but for whatever reason do not choose to post comments, know that a person's life and character cannot be described by a single tragic act, and we pray for your sister, your family, and for everyone involved.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on December 1, 2008 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NightLight ,No I didn't take it at me like that.
But when a tweeker and thief comes and posts it upsets me. Holier then thou!!!!! LOL
latejana ,Very good Comment! And yes I can say I have NEVER drank and drove. Maybe I am the exception? But I do send my prayers to both families.

Posted by 1cwbyfan on December 1, 2008 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why do you feel for a Drunk amd crystal and pot smoker that didnt listen to the father of this child. He told her plenty of times but yet she did not listen. Let her rott from the inside out! Who you should be praying is for the father.For he is the one who will suffer the most knowing that the mother of his child killed him!So dont play it off like she was an angel!!!!

Posted by opns on December 1, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I WAS REMOVED? why?? Okay Star lets make YOU happy.

Oh, poor Lucia, she was such a good girl, like grandma says, everybody, leave them alone now man, who do you think you are? Leave her along. The daddy didn't ask enough, that's what happened. We onlly party and get drunk on holidays and weekends, we don't drink and drive that much. Give us a break now, okay? okay? Understand Our heaarrtss now.

VCSTAR, is this what you want to hear?

Is that better star?

Posted by NightLight on December 1, 2008 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

1cwbyfan, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but it is easy for me to pray for the mom simply because it is the most troubled people who need prayers as much as anyone. A person doesn't need to be an angel in order for me to pray for them.

Posted by latejana on December 1, 2008 at 7:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you"--Ephesians 4:32

No family is perfect, even yours. But, despite the occasional frustrations, disappointments, and hurt feelings of family life, your clan if God's gift to you. That little band of men, women, kids, and babies is a priceless treasure on temporary loan from the Father above. Give thanks to the Giver for the gift of family...and act accordingly.

to: nlchoppers, you will be rewarded for the good you did, even if it was just a phone call, because it shows that you have a good heart. to: NightLight, RachaelReyes, and many others too many to mention, thank you for your prayers for our families, (Cardoza/Nuno) and to FedUp and the other people who have posted these nasty comments, do you believe in Karma?
We have all fallen short of God's commandments, and He has forgiven us. We too, must forgive others. And we must refrain from judging them. As Christian believers, we are warned that to judge others is to invite fearful consequences: to the extent we judge others, so, too, will we be judged by God. Let us refrain from judging others. Instead, let us forgive them and love them in the same way that God has forgiven us.
Please let us grieve in Peace, we will be laying my nephew "Ricky" to rest this week.

Posted by NightLight on December 2, 2008 at 12:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Latejana, I know some of the comments here have been very angry and I can only imagine the hurt they cause your family at this difficult time. But please know, and I hope it brings some small measure of comfort, that all comments, from the compassionate to the angry, come from profound sadness for your little nephew. Even the ones that are exceptionally cruel toward members of your family, I'm not saying they are deserved or justified, but they are all different expressions of grief for your beloved nephew, that's why the emotions are so high. May God bless your family and may you feel His strength.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on December 2, 2008 at 6:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NightLight ,And I agree! Hopefully at the price of her sons life , she will change her way of life. Sad, it took loosing her son to change , if she does. I really pray the Father gets custody of the surviving child.
I KNOW.......I have been through the court procedure to get custody. My Son has custody of his baby girl due to the Mom couldn't get off the drugs.......... But now we know she is being well taken care of. Fed, bathed and happy!!!!
latejana , Your Comments are always well said. Being fresh news its hard for alot of people to turn thier heads on this . This shouldn't have ever happened. Your Sister needs prayer....And I will pray for her to change her life. Its just sad its at the cost of her child.God Bless your family and the Fathers family. No one knows the feeling of loosing a child unless its happened to them. But we all love the children of God , and when a life is taken too early due to negligent it angers people. Perhaps people aren't judgeing her as much as putting her down as a Mother. God Be with you and your family and the Cardoza's.

Posted by SHORT_STUFF on December 2, 2008 at 7:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WOW...IT AMAZES ME HOW PEOPLE CAN BE SO HEARTLESS...PUT YOURSELF IN OUR POSITION...HOW WOULD YOU FEEL READING ALL THE NEGATIVITY TOWARDS YOUR FAMILY AT A TIME LIKE THIS? I DONT KNOW WHY THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO START LETTING ANYONE PUT COMMENTS ON STORIES,ESPECIALLY ONE LIKE THIS...LIKE IT HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY...ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE!!! THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS PRAYED FOR OUR FAMILY,ITS MUCH APPRECIATED. GOD BLESS EVERYONE...(NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE)...EVERYONE!!!