Posted by insideedge on November 18, 2008 at 7 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WOW.........Did I miss something?

What were the conflicting statements.

That's is about the dumbest article I have ever read.

Posted by SueSue on November 18, 2008 at 7:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The paper probably can't report on the specifics of the conflicting statements. They should have given this article another title. Like "Continuing Investigation on Simi Valley Shooting".
My prayers go out to both families and I hope Harry is found innocent due to self-defense. Good luck Harry and my prayer to you and Renee.

Posted by SueSue on November 18, 2008 at 7:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

interesting how the pic of Harry is so bad and the victims pix is smiling.
Harry doesn't look like that! He such a sweet man and I hate when the paper post stupid mug shots. Ask the family for a decent photo please.

Posted by 1cracker on November 18, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Innocent is the last thing I want Harry to be found of. Too bad he didn't think to call 911, where the police station is not to far from his home. Could of saved a life! Bryan's life!!

Posted by lawabider on November 18, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"possession of a controlled substance" -- and who whined at me yesterday about "suspecting methamphetamines"??? The whole story just screams of heartwrenching sadness... But, until we get that cr*p off our streets, we can expect even more stories like this one...

Posted by yellowdvr on November 18, 2008 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree lawabider and it was not just once he was convicted twice.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on November 18, 2008 at 8:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Based on what we know so far, it appears that Scribner should have called SVPD because he was not in imminent danger. I'm curious to know if late night / early morning interruptions of Mr. Scribner's sleep due to actions of Wall was commonplace. Was he aware of Wall's drug habit? Was he frustrated, as many are, at a daughter's poor choice of friends, feeling helpless to do anything about it? For the daughter to be living in the home (assuming she was living there), while dating a felon/drug addict, showed disrespect to her parents. Though not legally responsible, the daughter seems to be the one who set the stage for what happened.

Nothing that we know of as yet justifies the killing of Wall by Scribner. That said, lets take a good look at Scribner's mental state and what took him to the point that he killed his dautghter's boyfriend.

Posted by BabyzDaddy_01 on November 18, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think SVPD found a M.O. as they would not have set the bail so high for an accidental shooting.

Even if he was threatening the daughter, you don't shoot an unarmed man over an argument.

Posted by prophet on November 18, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If a man came to my door at 1 am and had a disagreement with my daughter and it got physical. What man wouldn't step up and protect his little girl also this guy is on private property, half the father's age and also a druggy. What is the father supposed to do, he's protecting his family I would of done the same.

Posted by insideedge on November 18, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Prophet....
Exactly what I was thinking...

I doubt the guy just walked out and decided to shoot someone.

Posted by 1cracker on November 18, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A druggy who was clean!!! I would recommend shutting your mouth about things you don't have proof of, prophet.

Posted by BabyzDaddy_01 on November 18, 2008 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Prophet: It's people like you that make uninformed decisions and comments that make this society "as great as it is today". (end sarcasm)

"American Idiot" - Green Day

Posted by lifefriend on November 18, 2008 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For all of you stupid, ignorant people who are dumb enough to voice an opinion about someone you don’t EVEN KNOW.... Bryan has been clean and free of his PAST and was doing VERY WELL for over a year... This incident has NOTHING do with his past... The shady individuals here are that "instigating scab" Jamie and her worthless "coward" of a father... By reading all of your comments, none of you know the whole story so do yourselves a favor and shut your b---- mouths ups. You have no right!!!!!!!! Nothing justifies someone being murdered that way he was.

Posted by brwnoso on November 18, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

well lets just hope they get to the bottom of this conflict.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on November 18, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lifefriend, the killing was most likely not justified. If, as was reported, there was a loud banging on Scribner's front door at that time of the morning, something was going on. Were you a witness to the incident? This blog is a good place for people to ask questions or to state opinions/theories. If you have something to offer, don't knock the posters ... offer some wisdom.

Posted by Arod on November 18, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

seems like the article is a conflicting statement... just sayin is all (TM)

Posted by caroldammit on November 18, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lifefriend: My sincere condolences on the loss of your friend Bryan. I understand that it must be painful to read comments here speculating what may, or may not have led up to this dreadful incident, however, please understand that this is a public comment forum and it's purpose is to allow readers to express their thoughts (within the guidelines dictated below). Naturally, some of those thoughts will turn to possible scenarios to explain what exactly occurred and why. If you'd like to share your personal knowledge about your friend here, many will appreciate the information, however, please be prepared for both honest curiosity and insensitive and immature posters who deliberately try to antagonize & infuriate. My suggestion to you is NOT to read the comments section here and to honor and remember your friend with others who loved him.

Posted by Arod on November 18, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

carol, well stated.

Posted by caroldammit on November 18, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks Jr!

Posted by pific on November 18, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope California someday adopts the "Castle Law" like we have here in Texas. Based on Mr Scribner's case, he should be given a commendation. No one has the right to come to your "castle" and create problems or harass someone. Wake up California!!!!

Posted by suzydougie on November 18, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

im with you lifefriend,i worked with bryan on transformers over the summer,we had alot in common,im telling you he was a stand up guy,unless bryan had a gun or a knife there is no justification,my prayers go out to all involved.i will miss you my local724 brother,your local44 friend

Posted by sparks240 on November 18, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If California gets the "Castle Law", does that mean we can shoot door to door solicitors who create problems? There is a newspaper salesman I'd like to drop.

Posted by moorpark118 on November 18, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Well hello, Clarice."
Look at the picture, its Dr. Hannibal Lecter.
"Nice guy" he has just blown someone away. And it appears, Wall was unarmed. I am all for protecting your 29 year old homely daughter but if you blow away her felon boyfriend you are probable going to do some hard time.
Hope your proud of Daddy!

Posted by nojustice_justus on November 18, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The ironic thing to stories like this is that we rarely see any follow-up after the fact. Just enough information (or mis-information) to induce the posting that occurs.

An added by-product are the friends and family who then read the posts, harsh and compassionate, and then are offended. Who wouldn't be? CarolDammit, as you have read, explained that scenario already.

This story would have had 5-fold the postings if the last names were of a certain other ethnicity. Good thing they weren't...

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

everybody that does not know bryan please stop talking aBOUT THIS CASE!!

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BRIAN HAD A GREAT JOB IN THE MOVIE STUDIOS! HE WAS A GREAT GUY, HE DID NOT DESERVE TO DIE, HARRY DID NOT HAVE TO KILL BRIAN, SOMEONE MADE A GREAT POINT, CALL THE POLICE!! IF EVERYBODY TOOK MATTERS INTO THERE OWN HANDS THERE WOULD BE CASES LIKE THIS ALL OVER THE PLACE! BRYAN WAS A GREAT GUY AND YOU GUYS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT,IF YOU BORED GO READ A BOOK AND STOP TALKING DOWN TO MY FRIEND PLEASE!!

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

THANKYOU LIFEFRIEND..... THANKS

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Felon??? you guys have no clue what you are talking about, Bryan was a excellent guy, please if you do not know the case or no anybody involved go comment on another case! Bryan was not a meth head like you are making him out to be!1 please stop jerk offs! anybody know when b-wall services are please let me know!!

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 12:10 p.m.

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Posted by Arod on November 18, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Transformers the movie?

Diersing, you are on a public forum, people will say whatever they feel they have to say. It is your choice to keep reading. If the people posting are totally wrong in their speculations, isn't it best to stop reading since you know the real story?

Posted by nojustice_justus on November 18, 2008 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well its better to be pissed off than pissed on...so take a chill pill diersing.

Sounds as though you are new to this element...if you stick around you will see that all stories like this have similar posts. Don't take it personal. JMNY had a good suggestion.

Hopefully the truth comes to light...best of luck.

Posted by swtnsassy on November 18, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

diersing please re-read "caroldammit" post. This is a public forum to post questions/comments/etc.. The only individuals who know the acutal facts of the case are those who were there at the time of the shooting. Hopefully the police will be able to piece together what happened. I understand you are upset and greiving the loss of your friend/family member. Unfortunately the fact is that the article states that he was convicted of felony possesion, that makes him a "felon", so to become angery at people for addressing him in such a manner is not going to help. Please if you dont want to read other peoples comments/opinions then dont read this section of the article.
May God Bless you and see you, the family, and all involved through this...May his soul rest in peace.

Posted by swtnsassy on November 18, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

was suppose to say May God Bless you/the family/all involved and see you through this...May his soul rest in peace.

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I UNDERSTAND THAT! he is not a bad guy, people make there mistakes in life! I'm new to this site i had no clue there was such a stupid site but oh well! for all of you to bad mouth my murdered friend!!! he was a great guy, a hard worker, a great father!! not a ,robber,felon he has been clean for almost two years and had a great job in the movie studios for the last 15 years !! thanks swtnnasty!

Posted by handyhood on November 18, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

People are posting on what is written in the story. Because there are no facts presented, most comments are speculation. This is what this board is about. I had met Bryan when he was in work furlough and while I found him to be a nice person, it doesn't excuse the fact that he was a convicted felon. He may have been doing great and had turned his life around as some do, but there are a lot of questions that are not answered. For instance, why did a 65 year old man with no record of ever being in trouble (for 65 yrs!!!) feel the need to shoot Bryan? Who banged on the door, and why? Why weren't the police called before this escalated into a shooting? So, if you don't like what you read on these post, I suggest you not read these post!!

Posted by purplelady1971 on November 18, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Again, this is my father you are talking about... He is not crazy and would not hurt anyone on purpose... My father has no history of violence... This is a great tragedy for both families... None of you were there so stop jumping to conclusions...... I dont agree with the headline on this one, what conflicting stories? And are you suppose to look happy when they take a mug shot, why didn't they use a mug shot from the several times Bryan has been put in jail? This was a horrible accident and I hope they get all there facts in.......

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thanks CAMDADDY101.

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 12:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IM NOT SAYING ANYBODY IS GUILTY! ALL I AM SAYING IS BRYAN WASNT A BAD GUY AND DIDNT DESERVE THIS!! HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME EVERYBODY!

Posted by moorpark118 on November 18, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Purplelady1971. Whats the story behind your sister or you? Did Bryan come over alone or was he returning with your fathers daughter?

Sorry about pops, he is likly in a huge amount of trouble here.

Posted by Arod on November 18, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Purplelady, the reason they didn't use one of the 'victims' mug shots is because this paper is sensationalist and always tries to make the 'victim' seem like the nicest person. I don't know all the facts to this story, but no one gets shot after banging on someone's door, for no reason.

Posted by CmeMom on November 18, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Although the victim may have been on the right track these last few years, on this night it seems he took a detour. I don't know what happened (only those who were there do) but it seems that the victim was not demonstrating the behavior of an "excellent guy" that night. "excellent guys" don't typically place themselves in situations that would, and in this case did, get themselves shot.

Posted by purplelady1971 on November 18, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually, my sister has her own place and does not live at home. She has been living on her own for many years........ Bryan chased her from her place to my parents, it was not a good situation... I think that is about all I can say... I do hope all the facts are presented in this case..... I am so saddened by this tragedy... I feel the shooting was a horrible accident....

Posted by Arod on November 18, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A father has to protect his daughter... nuff said

Posted by CmeMom on November 18, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

purplelady1971 - My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family as well as the family of Brian Wall. I was very sad to hear this horrible news and hope the truth exonerates your father. I've know your family for a very long time and do not believe this shooting was malicious or unjustified although I'm sure these thoughts don't provide much comfort at this time.

Posted by nojustice_justus on November 18, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Its starting to make more sense.

What was a bit obvious was the 'conflicting statements' word being used and the only two people alive there were the father and daughter. Seems strange. It is downright SAD.

Posted by purplelady1971 on November 18, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

CmeMom - Thank you for your kind words... It is a very difficult time for all of the poeple involved... This is something that no family should have to ever experience... But accidents unfortunately happen....

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I AM NOT TALKING BAD ABOUT ANYBODY IN THIS CASE, I AM SIMPILY SAYING BRYAN WAS NOT A BAD GUY, HE DID NOT DESERVE TO DIE! I HAVE KNOWN BRYAN SEAN WALL MY HOLE LIFE,THIS IS A BIG ACCIDENT, YOU WILL BE MISSED B-WALL!

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on November 18, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

purplelady1971, many of us have gone "over the line" to protect our daughters or granddaughters. I'm so sorry that your family has to suffer for some apparently bad choices by your sister and a father who loves his daughter enough to risk the rest of his life to protect her. From all the good things I've heard about your father, Wall must have antagonized him or made threats to have upset him so much ... or, he tried something on your sister that would cause any loving parent to react severely.

Posted by h2oboy on November 18, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am saddened by this whole thing. It is sad that a man lost his life and even more sad that a father had to make this choice to protect his daughter. I would do that same for any of my family members if they were being chased and in fear.

My thoughts and prayers to both families

Posted by prophet on November 18, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why do Bryan's friends come to the this site and state that Bryan was a great guy worked for the movies. Why is that important, I mean who cares really. What business does he have coming to a person's home at 1am and banging at the door. People can state that he was clean but you really don't know do you? Sorry about your friend getting shot and all but hitting women is out of line.

Facts:

6 months on a violent crime offense not even a year ago.

Man comes to confront girlfriend 1am

Things get physical, abusive boy friend

Father sees daughter in distress

Father's emotions take hold, I mean it's his daughter!

Man half the age of the father imminent danger in my opinion.

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am also sorry purplelady1971, can you please let me know when the funeral is for Bryan when and if you find out, I'm sorry you have to hear all these people bad mouthing your father!

Posted by dom_kenpo on November 18, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Is it me, or does the shooter look like Jigsaw?

Posted by swtnsassy on November 18, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hayden08, I said nothing nasty in my post. As I said in my first post and will say again May God Bless ALL involved and see them through this... and May his soul Rest in Peace...

Posted by Blackjack21 on November 18, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PurpleLady1971... You,your brother,my brother and I grew up in the same neighborhood back in the day (Auriela and Diane)Jamie was still a baby then.. We lived on the corner house on Emory and Auriela. I just wanted to give you and your family some support here. Most people believe everything they read and unless they know the parties involved just go off on what they think to be the truth. Your dad is one hell of a guy!!! Be strong and god bless.

Posted by rebel123 on November 18, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Too bad daddy didn't just haul his daughter inside the house and close the door. Much tragedy could have been avoided if he hadn't armed himself first. He should have picked up a phone and called 911 before he picked up a damn gun.

Posted by BabyzDaddy_01 on November 18, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Funny how you don't see all the "PRO-Right to Bear Arms" people coming on here to post how this is exactly what they want each citizen to possess guns for. It's incidents like this that "sans"-gun, this guy would still be living. Maybe would have received a beating or night in jail after getting arrested for disturbing the peace....certainly did not merit death.

Posted by Arod on November 18, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

we have "PRO-Right to Bear Arms people" on this site? I wish I had bear arms, I would nickname myself Santa Claws.

lol jk Babyzdaddy

Posted by purplelady1971 on November 18, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bryan had been arrested for battery many times already......and apparently it did not stop him from continuing to beat on women...he should have tried anger management or something..... There are definately ways of controlling your anger....Once again I will say that this was a horrible accident....The numerous arrests should have been a wake up call.... It is very tragic that is ended this way.......

Posted by friend31 on November 18, 2008 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What's really sad is that we will never really know Bryan's side of the story. What's his defense? The worst part of it all is Bryan's boy will never see his Father again.
Bryan has had his ups and downs, downs especially since Jamie has been back in the picture. Why is everyone accusing only Bryan for doing drugs. Who the hell you think he's doing it with this whole time...hmm. JAMIE. He was clean, doing great until she came along AGAIN.

Posted by acosta on November 18, 2008 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You know Bryan might have been a convicted felon but It doesn't mean you
place a target on him and shoot. You know the funny thing about this story Is the gentleman Is going to be a felon himself and stay alot longer then 6 months In jail because of a mistake. No one knows what really happened unless they were there. So everyone should have some respect for both families, his child and his friends.

Posted by friend31 on November 18, 2008 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If Bryan was abusive to Jamie, I'm sorry to say it's her own d!@# fault for staying in the relationship. I have remorse believe me. But the crap that Bryan has endoured with her, with the alcohol and drugs, nothing was good to come out of the relationship. Bryan did not deserve to die the way he did, regardless what happened.

Posted by friend31 on November 18, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey PROPHET your an idiot!

Posted by friend31 on November 18, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hey LUVMYFAMILY
your comment about mug shots...It's called... Happy cause I just got my Drivers license..
Dumb!@#

Posted by purplelady1971 on November 18, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would appriciate it if you did not talk about my sister that way... She has been clean for a couple of years. I do know how thier relationship was... It was very abusive... but she had broke it off with him, because she found out he was using again... So if your going to state information on here... Get it right...... I really feel that she stayed with him because she loved him and though she could stop him from being abusive and abusing... You hear stories like that all the time.... About people trying to help other people get better......

Posted by SCRIBNER_SUPPORTER on November 18, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

purplelady--perhaps, as advised, you should not say anything else regarding this investigation. These people on here are just baiting you. They are trying to get you to say something that they can twist in to something more ignorant than the other comments they've already posted. We know what really happened!! Once the details are released everyone on here who doubted the kind man that your father is will eat their words. Every single person on here who speculates or blames your father will be shown the error of their ways. God knows the truth...and to all of you reading this who obviously think otherwise...He's the only one who has the right to judge anyone.

Families are grieving, a young man has passed, parents have lost a son, and a wife who has never been separated from her husband for more than a day in their marriage sits alone while her husband sits in a holding cell. No matter who you know that is involved in this incident, no matter who you think was wrong, no matter what your opinion is...who's the bad guy? The people who can't find anything better to do then make hurtful ignorant comments...the families are reading these. Please show some decency.

Posted by friend31 on November 18, 2008 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh.. Scribners.. I'm so sorry for what your going through, Bull. think about how Bryan's Family and Friends are feeling. we will never know the other side of the story, of course their gonna claim self-defense. Lucky for them, he does have a past, and it's pretty much all because of Jamie. The End.

Posted by purplelady1971 on November 18, 2008 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Scribner_Supporter - Thank you, you are definetly right..... It is all just so upsetting......

Posted by friend31 on November 18, 2008 at 4:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

U may think they are very ignornant, but all in all truthful. I am hurt to know that my Friend is gone. B-WALL SUPPORT TEAM

Posted by SCRIBNER_SUPPORTER on November 18, 2008 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know how upsetting this is, you just can't let people draw you in to these discussions. Watching the horrible things that people have to say about a man you know and love is not going to help you deal with this. You know the truth, and you have to faith that everything will be okay in the end.
I'm so sorry for the Wall family and I can not begin to imagine the pain and loss they must be feeling. But these comments and outsider's opinions are not going to help them either. People say things out of anger thinking that it will make some sort of difference or thinking that hurting your feelings will somehow make them feel like they've won some sort of battle on behalf of everyone who loved Bryan.
Everyone has their opinions, but Purplelade, you and I both know that that's all they are...opinions. Some say accident, some say murder, some say self-defense (which I don't remember reading in any articles...hmmm). Just wait it out. And for your own sanity...stop reading these comments.

Posted by therealtruth on November 18, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lol... Man some of Scribner's friends on here lack the common sense. If your going to post statements as facts "Prophet', make sure they justify taking a human life. None of your facts justify killing anyone. Period

Prophet we live in a Democratic country, (or atless I do) it's not ok to kill anyone for those reasons listed. I welcome you to the civilized world where we have police departments and cell phones.

As for your friend Scriber he doesn't have the cleanest record either. Seems in "83" Scriber had a run in with the Law himself. I guess what happens in Vegas, doesn't stay in Vegas.

Posted by Ironhorse on November 18, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok babyzdaddy, here's your PRO: If someone is pounding on my door at 1AM and my family is in, I'm going to be ready to defend me and mine! What you apparently don't understand is that it is not the job of the police dep't to protect me or you or even Bryan Wall. Think about it. Here's an example...a woman's ex-boyfriend threatens her, she calls the police, the police say "I'm sorry, ma'am, we can't do anything; there hasn't been any crime." By the time there is a crime, it's too late. Either she's beat to a pulp, or he/she is dead. Police departments are not charged with protecting you and I; their mandate is to apply the laws we have agreed to as a society, and make appropriate arrests AFTER THE CRIMES ARE COMMITTED! So let me ask you, Mr. Babyzdaddy, if the police are not going to protect me, who is?
You? I don't think so.
Here's a morbid thought for you. In this world of "what if's", what if Mr. Scribner were not armed? Could he and his daughter both be beaten, or worse, dead?
In writing this, I am not passing judgement on the tragedy in Simi; I was not there and I do not know what happened. But I will stand and defend my right (and my responsibility to my family) of self protection by whatever means and to whatever extent is necessary.

Posted by truthseaker on November 18, 2008 at 5:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know both parties involved and to both families my condolences. One thing we must all agree on is that everyone is reasonable for there own actions, Brian as well as Harry. Had Brian not put himself in this situation all would be good. Had Harry not picked up his gun, all would certainly be better. To the comments that Brian's son will never get to know his father is sad and yet now he will only be told of the good side of Brian. He will not need to see and grow up with the side that was not so good. Yes Brian will be missed !!!!. To the friends of both Harry and Brian, please let go of the anger and focus on our own actions. After all this is the only thing we have complete control of in this case.

Posted by moorpark118 on November 18, 2008 at 5:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok, this is going to sound bad but….
Nice cozy night, man and wife go to bed. Early morning hours beating on door. Provisional defense weapon taken. Father finds daughter upset and frantic. Boy friend with history of beating women, drugs, felon, chased daughter while she fled, ran or whatever into her daddy’s arms. Daddy, for whatever reason, attacked, confronted, or just blows a gasket takes head shot. Dead BFF, daddy sits down and waits for his day in court.

Prediction, he walks. To get murder one convection you need 12 guilty votes. I say there is one dad who has had enough of this society forgiveness crap. Take note you freaky get away with everything society there is accountability. Some say it is in heaven or hell that you will find reckoning but I say if you’re a jerk off your reckoning begins here at my doorstep.
If you don’t pay your mortgage we take your house, no TARP.
If you run out of money and have bills you go BK.
If you beat my daughter and come out of control to my door step at 1:30am your going to die.

Sorry but life often delivers the consequences you deserve.

Chances are the DA won’t even prosecute. “It was self defense, just look at how he beat my daughter. I had to protect myself. If we had more of this maybe the screw-ups of this world would straighten up and leave the honorable people of this county alone.

Posted by friend31 on November 18, 2008 at 5:29 p.m.

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Posted by prophet on November 18, 2008 at 5:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Moorpark118,

You speak the truth!

~ Prophet

Posted by moorpark118 on November 18, 2008 at 5:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A mirror has a way of reflecting an image which is not pretty but it is in fact a reflection of truth.

Posted by friend31 on November 18, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you guys only Knew........ we will see in the end. The Conflicting story was between Father and Daughter. Prophet your still an idiot!

Posted by teamWALL on November 18, 2008 at 5:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To the Scribner supporters, i absolutely feel your pain, i have known Jamie since elementary school and her family, i have also known Bryan my ENTIRE life. This situation is tragic. NO ONE deserves to die the way he did. Whether it was an accident or pre meditated, if you were not there, you dont know what happened. Those who were there may or may not ever tell the truth.

Bryan may have been a addict, but so was Jamie, he was a good hearted person, who had a lot more life to live. And so does Jamie. Just because someone has a haunted past does not mean they didn't have a bright future. And his son will NEVER know the good the bad or the ugly.

The Scribner's will be able to watch their children grow up, maybe even from a jail cell. Bryan's child will never have that opportunity.

In regards to Bryan abusing Jamie, i do not believe for one minute that he was on her driveway beating her to a pulp. Like i said, i have known him my whole life and he was not that kind of person. I am entitled to my own opinion. I know he was no angel, but who is? We have all done things in life that may not be acceptable, but should we have to pay the ultimate, permanent price for a mistake? A mistake that we don't truly know happened or not?

I am sick to my stomach that people want to pass judgement and make accusations about something they are not fully educated about. These are people's lives we are talking about here. So many lives have been ruined because of what? A father acted out of rage, or defending the honor of his daughter? The story just does not add up, and as the facts trickle in, as they already are from the arraignment today, we will come closer to learning the truth.

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Posted by therealtruth on November 18, 2008 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

friend31,

You speak the truth!

~ TheRealTruth

Posted by germaphobe on November 18, 2008 at 6:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I live in Simi and Have had to call the Police before. I live less that a mile from the station and it took almost an Hour to get to my house. If you walk out your front door at 1:00 am and someone attacks you or someone else in your family, are you just going to call the police and wait while a guy (that is a repeat Drug and assault Offender, Has a restraining order against him for assault, Has done time for Assault, and has 2 Felony Strikes against him for drugs) Yeah Just sit back and wait for the Police to get there.

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Posted by teamWALL on November 18, 2008 at 6:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Again, moorpark, your thoughts are invalid.

Let me tell you all something. She WILLINGLY went with Bryan to a wrap party that night, she WILLINGLY went to one of his work functions with him. He didn't follow her around, or chase her down. SHE WENT WITH HIM to a function. They got in a argument and what happened from there we don't know. And you certianly don't know.

I would NOT forgive the devil himself, and yeah Bryan was a drug addict, so is half of America, and probably someone close to you is. That does not make them a bad person. Have you never been in a fight in your life? And what, now you think you know who Bryan is because soeone on here is accusing him of having history of beating women? You are speaking of someone whom is dead may i remind you, that you don't know anything about!!

Posted by mtnbkr on November 18, 2008 at 6:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

germaphobe, what did you call the cops for? I bet it wasn't for someone punding on your door at 1 am or SVPD would've been there a lot quicker. From recent crime stats, SVPD average response time to an emergency = 4 minutes, non emergencies = about 20 minutes. Think you can get better response times elsewher? Go ahead and try...

Posted by germaphobe on November 18, 2008 at 6:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To teamWALL
How good of a person is Brian when he Just got out of Jail and he has a pending Assult case against him? Yeah he is a great guy. If I walked out my front door and saw a Guy(any Guy) beating on my Daughter at 01:00 am. I wouldn't just sit there and wait for the police. By the time they got there he could seriously injure her or kill her. Most people I talk to would do the same thing Harry did.

Posted by germaphobe on November 18, 2008 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jamie Has Multiple bruises and a few lacerations all over her Body. Yes she was being assulted by Brian.

Here is the Question for everybody.

IF YOUR DAUGHTER IS GETTING BEAT DOWN BY A GUY IN YOUR DRIVEWAY AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING AND BEATING ON YOUR FRONT DOOR TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM HIM, WHAT WOULD YOU DO?????

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks, teamWall at least someone is sticking up for b-wall! I'm sure he would appreciate it, for all of you talking bad about someone that is no longer with us is unbelievable, you have no clue on what your wasting your time on! get a life!

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Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

germaphobe- where do you get that Bryan was beating her in the driveway? do you know more than the authorities?

Posted by Another_B_WALL_SUPPORTER on November 18, 2008 at 8:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"God knows the truth" and God bless the Scribners" Are you kidding me? I don't think god appreciates people killing other people. Isn't that one of his big rules? I think they call it ummm a comandment. As in god comands you not to kill people. As far as her sober for two years, are you counting in dog years? Someone should get a pee test.

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 8:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hair follicle test, it goes back 4 years! b-wall did not deserve to be killed, he was a good guy,great father, everybody has a past that haunts them! thanks b-wall supporter! BRIAN SEAN WALL WILL BE MISSED!

Posted by luv2sail on November 18, 2008 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TeamWall and Hayden, I realize this guy is your friend. That being said, he certainly was not what one would call a stellar individual. Neither am I so save your rhetoric.
I don't have any children but should someone cause any harm to my Parents, Wife or any of my friends I would take their life physically or, if time permits, with a gun.
Never act like an a-hole between someone and the ones he loves.

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 8:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WAS OUR FRIEND! LUV2SaiL!

Posted by luv2sail on November 18, 2008 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hayden, during my time in the military I lost some friends, they are still my friends.

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 8:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thanks luv2sail, point well taken!

Posted by luv2sail on November 18, 2008 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are more then welcome. The loss of a friend or a felllow soldier is very difficult to digest, especially initially.
We were involved in some rather less then publicized conflicts and I lost many a fellow friend. Funny thing, he hadn't aged. Still love him the same, some 34 years later. Guessing he feels the same.

Posted by Another_B_WALL_SUPPORTER on November 18, 2008 at 9:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"during my time in the military I lost some friends, they are still my friends"

for sure i can feel this.

However if people were bad mouthing them, you would stand up for them in a second if you felt in your heart it was the right thing to do.

Posted by Allthatjazz75 on November 18, 2008 at 9:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have known the Scribners for years and can vouche that they have always fostered a love of music in their loyal patrons and offered Simi Valley's youths a safe forum to pursue the art of self-expression to keep them off the streets and away from drugs. As of yet do not know the facts about what transpired, so we have only to conjecture. My heartfelt condolences go out to both families in this time of crisis.

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

people are bad mouthing Bryan all over this site and its just down right wrong! you have no idea what you are talking about, i guess only his friends know he didn't deserve to die! i understand it is a public forum, but you guys are bad mouthing someone that is no longer with US!! ACCIDENT? WHERE IS BRYAN'S WEAPON? OH YEAH HE DIDNT HAVE ONE.. its a shame that people just don't mind there own business! thanks to all Bryan supporters!

Posted by luv2sail on November 18, 2008 at 9:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by Another_B_WALL_SUPPORTER, I would always protect a friend of mine from harm, right or worng, but would not defend him verbally if I thought he was wrong.
I do not know your friend, am not commenting on him, rather, telling you my feelings.

Posted by Another_B_WALL_SUPPORTER on November 18, 2008 at 9:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nor would i , "If i thought he was wrong"

thats why i am here.

I think the scribners are good people also. I am just sick of everyone trying to pad one side of the story and make it all fluffy. That is all there is to try to keep someone they still have out of jail. Load up the public with nonsense about a persons past, its all in an effort to pad thier side.

This is why we care.

I bet everyone who knows bryan on either side of this deal has a lot of good things to say about him, no matter what happened that night. So lets chill out!

Posted by t1276 on November 18, 2008 at 9:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As a former friend of Brian's I can say that he was a good person. HOWEVER. When you find out what actually happened, then obviously, he was either STILL on drugs or alcohol.

The pounding on the door was the daughter trying to get away from Brian. The father came to the door finally to find his daughter getting beat up. Brian attacked him and wrestled him with the gun. The gun went off.

I know if I saw my daughter getting beat up, I would have to protect her as well. The poor guy was just doing what any normal parent was.

Posted by moorpark118 on November 18, 2008 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks t1276

From the persons history (all three) as described by their friends your story sounds reasonable. What is your source?

Posted by nojustice_justus on November 18, 2008 at 9:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If it is true that only one shot was taken by the father, then a self-defense seems plausible. Emptying the clip would paint a more sinister profile.

Moorpark118 might be onto something; not entirely but some of his post seems to fit what information has been posted/reported.

BabyzDaddy_01--what if the father used a bow and arrow? Then what?

I for one am a staunch supporter of the 2nd Amendment and what is in my gun safe proves it.

Posted by moorpark118 on November 18, 2008 at 10:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I profile for a living. Im called upon nationally to offer an opinion before the feds bring in their investigators. (Secret Service, FBI, US Postal Inspectors) I get the first cut but I have to be in and out in 48 hours. Then they do the heavy lifting. Its not always kind because people want (and should) look the the best of times with the people they know. I work backwards. From incident back then forward again. If I told you a guy was shot by an otherwise passive 64 year old and the victim was a friend of his daughter. You would think of a "flash point" then if I told you it occurred at one in the morning at the home of the shooter after being awakened by a panic situation at the door and the told you it involved two persons who had a history of drugs and conflict and the one killed was not the daughter but the boyfriend you can see how these things are figured out.

Unfortunately some of the history contributes to the issue but it is a culmination of the bad issues that result in these results. If everyone brought there A game to the driveway this would not have happened.

Posted by crackissuperwhack on November 18, 2008 at 10:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The issues of child maltreatment and adult domestic violence have separately received extensive public attention in recent years. It is only in the past five years, however, that the relationship between child maltreatment and adult domestic violence has been discussed and studied nationally. Over 30 studies of the link between these two forms of violence show amedian co-occurrence of both forms of violence in 40% of families studied with the range in the majority of studies varying from 30% to 60% of families

Hmm...

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Posted by moorpark118 on November 18, 2008 at 10:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NIce Wackie Crackie
Statistics are a "little" off but you are on the right track. If one piece was changed like the home was a random location, it did not involve a father daughter, the venue was a more public place the outcome would be likely different but in this case the "moon and the stars" lined up and wham, three lives changes not to mention family and friends.

I was at the scene today. In the day no problem but at night, a clutter of cars and an isolated entrance. This likely contributed to what is called a box effect where the incident lacked an outside influence to defuse the incident.

Posted by 805Nana_1 on November 18, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My daughter was involved in an abusive relationship when she was in her early 20's. It was so heartbreaking for me as a mother. Wish I had known I coulda busted a cap in his a@@ and possibly got away with it. At least most people would have seen it as justifiable. I'm sure I would've saved some other young lady and her mother the same heartache.

Luckly she was able to get away from him and is in a healthy relationship with a man who would never put his hands on her.

Why is it that most women who kill their abuser are locked up in prison? Doesn't seem quite fair.

Posted by crackissuperwhack on November 18, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SVPD + 911 = good luck! I've had two incidents personally that where emergencies. My old neighbor's meth addicted girlfriend was trying to use her car to mow him down. Called 911, and proceeded to watched her make tire squeeling run after tire squeeling run down the street and swerve at him as he hopped over the wall each time to avoid being hit. This went on for 5 to 10 mins and no cops. They finally showed up after all the fun was over. On yet another occasion I was riding my bike when some wanna be gangsters decided they wanted to bike-jack me, so I called on my cell and told them they had a crime in progress. I gave them my location and told them the situation. They wanted my name, address and serial number before they would consider doing anything. I hung up and just pedalled faster knowing the conversation was a waste of my time.

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 10:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thanks simivalleymomma! well said.

Posted by crackissuperwhack on November 18, 2008 at 10:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What would Jesus do??? I don't think he'd be puttin' the smack down on any of his lady friends.

Posted by moorpark118 on November 18, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

simivalleymomma There is much I agree with you on but I do not think he shot at him. A neck shot is a mistake. You would normally see a torso hit if he was shooting at him or a direct head shot if he had him execution style, This was probably a situation where he had the gun and raised it to scare him away and this time they came together and struggled.

Its up to the cops, judge and jury to decide if it accidentally went of in a struggle or not. This is what I think it will boil down too and my guess is they will find power on both of their shirts as the gun might have been in between them and if both have power on there hands it will be a he said she said. The evidence will solve this one, not personal statements from either party.

May he rest in peace and the truth come out so the matter can be justly concluded.

PS I am not involved in this case I only do federal matters, I just happened to be by the hospital today and knew the house was only a hundred yards away so I went by.

Posted by RedTail on November 18, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

simivalleymomma, wishing someone to rot in jail before you even know all the facts is EVIL of you!
I don't know all the facts of this case, but I've interviewed people who were violently attacked and had their life threatened. You obviously have never experienced that before, and hopefully never will. You have no idea how you'd react if you're being beaten or see someone threaten the life of a loved one in a violent way. If this is the case with Scribner and his daughter, he had every right to take a life in self defense.
Do you also think women who are beaten should just take it, because that's what your post says, that no one has the right to take someone else's life? Remember the young boy who was beaten to death in Newbury Park by his mom's boyfriend? A neighbor, Diane Cox, went to his rescue, and was struck in her face with a meat cleaver and could've been killed herself if another neighbor didn't step in to save her. If she had a gun, wouldn't you expect her to use it or be bludgeoned to death herself? And if she killed him, would you have been saying that she should rot in jail for coming to the defense of someone else?? I sure hope not.
Again, I don't know what happened that night and I'm not saying Scribner is guilty or innocent. I'm just responding to simivalleymomma. It's pretty sad when someone starts her post with what Jesus would do, then uses such vile and hateful words in the rest of her post.

Posted by moorpark118 on November 18, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

crackissuperwhack

LOL

Posted by JK on November 18, 2008 at 11:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good point moorpark118. It could have been what some might call an "accident" I am guessing that will certainly be his defense no matter what the truth is. I guess it goes back to my comment on responsible gun ownership. IF you own a gun, it's up to you to keep it out of situations where someone can lose a life. Once he opened his door to see it was his daughter and Brian he shoulda put the gun down. I am a parent, I understand the paternal desire to defend your children. Trust me- there is no rath compared to the rath of ME when it comes to my kids. But in the end- I know that you need to be a law abiding citizen, a responsible gun owner, and killing is wrong. Mr Scribner's daughter's suffering is going to be 10000000000 times worse than any physical hurt Brian may have caused that night. Her bruises would have been gone in a week. Now her long time boyfriend who she loved is gone and her daughter will/should rot in jail. Who wins here? NO one. Hopefully we will all get a better set of facts soon and end a lot of this speculation. How would daddy feel if he found out Brian caught her in the backseat of his car with one of his co- workers during the party they were at which caused his upset and he was chasing her to try and work things out? You just never know.

Posted by JK on November 18, 2008 at 11:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RedTail. If I read the laws right- I don't think we are allowed to shoot each other. Again- the girl was NOT severly beaten what so ever. In fact she is sitting home on her couch quite comfortably tonight. This is not something to compare to being attacked with a meat cleaver. You are comparing apples to oranges. While I don't condone hitting anyone, the punishment does not fit the crime. He didnt deserve to be shot and certainly not deserve to die. PERIOD

Posted by germaphobe on November 18, 2008 at 11:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To simivalleymomma
Mr. Scribners family had nothing to do with him shooting Brian (Remember a bad History of Drugs and Violence). If my Daughter showed up at my house beating on my door running from a man Beating her up. OHHH WAIT. YOU MUST THINK IT WAS OK FOR HIM TO BEAT HER UP ON MULTIBLE OCCASIONS.
When I opened the door and saw a Guy pounding her face into my driveway I would SHOOT him as well esspecially if I was 65 years old and the other guy was half my age and was on Drugs. Sure a 65 year old guy could have went over and tried to stop him but what if this "2 strike Felony drug offender, That has been in jail for Assault and Battery, and has a restraining order against him for assault" killed the 65 year old man and then killed his daughter. That would be just great. I am sure you people that think Brian was innocent in this and that Mr. Scribner should rot in Prison would be saying "Brian was a nice boy" still. Right.

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Posted by JK on November 18, 2008 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Germaphobe- Thanks for the kind words. Obviously you are missing the point. Assuming he did hit her- he would have perhaps deserved some slapping around himself, an arrest, possibly some jail time- not death. Just because he had a criminal history does not mean he should lose his life. Other posts have stated that he was doing drugs in the past with the girlfriend.. so should daddy have shot her up too? Stupid. Seriously- if you really believe that he deserved to die- please move. I don't want morons like you in my city. Go to South Central and shoot away. You will fit right in. None of the upstanding citizens of Simi Valley want one more shooting to keep us off that safest city list not to mention what it does to our already declining home values.

Posted by germaphobe on November 18, 2008 at 11:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

to mtnbkr
Your little Stats are crap. Those are the stats that they publicise for the "SAFEST CITY STATS"

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 11:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Germaphobe- Do you know anybody in this case? meaning bryan or jamie?

Posted by JK on November 18, 2008 at 11:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What is up with germaphobe? Apparently all this person wants to do is argue stats and condone killing. What an angry indiviudal. Anyone else vote to have germaphobe relocated out of city limits? I hear Iraq is lovely this time of year.

Posted by hayden08 on November 18, 2008 at 11:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

germaphobe- does not know what he is talking about. MOVE HIM OUT!

Posted by nojustice_justus on November 18, 2008 at 11:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Germaphobe--You'd better listen to these two Elitists. They walk on water and allegedly you don't. LOL.

With all the shooting going on it's screwing up the list...

Posted by RedTail on November 19, 2008 at 12:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Star has a new story up:
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news...

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Posted by RedTail on November 19, 2008 at 12:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with you germaphobe.

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Posted by germaphobe on November 19, 2008 at 12:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks RedTail
Good comment prophet

Posted by smithjc on November 19, 2008 at 12:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

simivalleymomma, it is not necessarily a crime to kill someone. that's why we have a statute that defines "justifiable homicide" which includes the taking of a life in defense of one's own life, or that of another.

it is also not against "god's laws" (whatever those are). the commandment "thou shalt not kill" is a mistranslation and should read "thou shalt not murder", which means that one shall not take a life unnecessarily. one could do several pages on the bible passages that REQUIRE a person to defend themselves or others.

btw before i even read the story or comments, as soon as i saw the pic of the "victim" i instantly spotted the tweeker.

Posted by crackissuperwhack on November 19, 2008 at 6:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Simivalleymama - LMAO! ??

"not to mention what it does to our already declining home values."

Really? So, by this rational the easter bunny must be responsible for the higher cost of eggs?

"Go to South Central and shoot away"

Central L.A. Actually has the lowest homicide rate in forever right now, I think you just offended a whole county.

From your comments it sounds like you need a break from the TV news. They isolate incidents than regurgitate them ad nauseam.

Posted by idlik2beetthem on November 19, 2008 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Very well said SVMOMMA. I really would like to know who Prophet, Germaphobe, and RedTail are. (probably all the same) lol

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on November 19, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

simivalleymomma, your lack of objectivity and naiveté are such that I pray you are never seated on a criminal jury. If Mr. Scribner is found guilty in a court of law, circumstances of extenuation and mitigation should certainly come to play in a truly just system. The problem is, based on legal technicalities and legal fiction that get in the way of justice, a person can be convicted who otherwise shouldn't, and murderers can go free. Mr. Scribner would actually get a fairer shake in a military court where he could be found guilty, but end up with a $1.00 fine as punishment.

I am looking forward to learning the facts in this case.

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Posted by Roxy on November 19, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i wanna know what therealtruth had to say

Posted by Comments on November 19, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

simivalleymomma you are a piece of work. I too don't condone the taking of another life. However none of us knows the actual circumstances of what happened that night. If (and yes, that's an IF) Wall was abusive and presenting himself as a danger to Scribner and his daughter then I do agree that Scribner had a right to defend himself. It's too bad that Wall lost his life, but he clearly made some bad choices that evening.

You said, "would daddy feel if he found out Brian caught her in the backseat of his car with one of his co- workers during the party they were at which caused his upset and he was chasing her to try and work things out?" This statement is what had me aghast at your comments. Does this mean that it was ok for Wall to beat his girlfriend? And, I'm not saying that's what he did, but you sure implied that he had a good excuse. I don't care if she was having actual sex with someone else. There is no excuse - EVER - for a partner to beat up another partner.

And, to Scribner's daughter who is posting here, please STOP. I'm sure your father's attorney (if he has one) has already told you this, but seriously you are NOT helping him by coming here and defending your dad. Anything you say might be used against him in the future. You might also be called to the stand at some point and your comments here could be used against you. I understand the desire to defend your dad (I'd feel the same), but you are not helping him here.

Posted by afriendofdaughter on November 19, 2008 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am a friend of Jamie's and Bryan's I could sit here and write about all the GOOD, and the BAD about this couple. But it's not for me to say. Nor anyone else who feels they need to bag on both of them. To take sides or whatever. It sucks that people are going back n forth on GOOD and BAD things they did or didn't do. I do know that people are hurting over this.To bad people involved and people loved cant just support each other....

Posted by truthbtold on November 19, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What I find so interesting is that the daughter didn't go to jail. It was her ongoing saga not her dad's. As the purple lady said, she didn't even live there. She is just as if not more guilty of anything that went on that night. She needs to be cuffed and hauled off, free her pops. Isn't it punishment enough for him to have a daughter like her who is still hasn't gotten herself together at that age! I smell a LOSER.

Posted by JK on November 19, 2008 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anyone who knew him and would like to pay their respects to Bryan Wall- Funeral is this Saturday at 10:00 Location : Crawford Mortuary, 22601 Lassen St, Chatsworth.
Thank you so much.

Posted by rxygrl1076 on November 19, 2008 at 11:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I really dont understand...To be friends with the group of people that Bryan knows you have to be special. I moved away from Simi a some time ago. When Simi Valley was a safe place, where people called the police when a dog was barking. It seems strange to me that people have gotten away from thisi fact and feel the need to resort to taking the law into their own hands. I dont know the man w/the gun, his daughter or the circumstance. All I know is that he made a choice and in my opinon a bad choice. No matter the situation it is not our decision, as people, to judge another or take the life of another. If this man owns a gun I am most certain he owns a phone. Goodness knows Simi Valley has a responsive police department. Why did he not take his daughter in the house and dial the phone. Rational people dont shoot other people. In my opinion there is no reason why one needs to walk outside and shoot someone in the front yard. We pay the police department good money for them to do their job. LET THEM, mothers are crying, a child is now fatherless, friends and loved ones are now mourning. All of this couldve been solved by picking up the phone and closing the door. I am a mother, dont get me wrong you are not going to hurt my babies, but I would not shoot someone. This a permanent and will never be right.

For the friends and family of Bryan I am sorry, know that faith will get you through this.

For the families of the shooter, let this teach you a lesson that some mistakes cannot be taken back. We all make choices, no excuse or justification can be made for taking the life of another...

God Bless you all....

Posted by Scott_Hub on November 20, 2008 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is very easy to say what you will/won't do while sitting behind a computer in the comfort of your safe home. Until you are actually put in the middle of the situation, can you make a decision on your actions.

One thing I question... you’re in the driveway of your girlfriend’s parent’s house, at 1am arguing/fighting whatever... the father comes out with a gun, why don't you leave??
It doesn't matter what the fight/argument was about, a father comes out to protect his daughter at his house, you don't stay around for a "conflict” you get out of there!!

Posted by crackissuperwhack on November 20, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

God bless you for painting the "people" of an entire city with same broad brush as "people" put in such a horrific situation. Turn the TV off. It's bad for you. Who's to say the cops wouldn't have come there and shot Bryan? It happens all the time. When you choose a path of violence, often that path leads to a violent end.
90% of battered women go back to their abuser and never press charges even when beat near to death. I don't know what the percentage of those women are that end up dead. 30% to 60% percent of domestic violence perpetrators cross over into child abuse. I don't know what constitutes felony battery on a partner, but is seems like a lot less people would be grieving and arguing if the girlfriend had pressed charges for strike 3 some time ago.

Think.

Posted by mommainthe805 on November 20, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Her myspace touts Bryan as the love of her life, now.

Posted by truthbtold61 on November 20, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

People who have absolutely no self worth whatsoever tout their abusers as something wonderful. This Jamie girl needs to get some serious therapy. She is a train wreck!
Wake up all you parents! This is what you get when you overindulge your children and don’t practice some tough love!

When you don’ t require them work, no chores, no responsibilities, hand it all to them! Then you get yourself a lazy kid, and in this case a lazy drug addict who has no direction.
If they don’t have to get out and make something of themselves THEY WON’T!
This girl succeeded in dragging her family down with her.

Like I said before at her father’s age, and for that matter her own, there shouldn’t be this nonsense going on. At almost thirty years old she has still not gotten off her a** and gotten herself together.

By her age I had a husband, three small kids, a house, a dog, and even better… A JOB! She is as much to blame for all this as Bryan and her dad. Now she can lay around and cry a river on her my space page about what a stellar guy she had. Maybe Bryan’s friends tell the truth when they say he was getting it together. If he was on the straight and narrow, that is phenomenal! But hey, if you were facing your third strike you’d be getting it together too! He would have been in jail right now facing that third strike if he hadn’t chosen option two. I guess then his small son could have visited Daddy in jail, what a thought!

I would gather (could be wrong) Bryan’s son’s (Connor?) mom has it together, has a supportive family, loving grandparent’s that will all do well by her son. I wish her and the little guy all the best because he is what matters now. He has a chance to be a successful, productive member of society whether his dad is here or not. It will be up to his support system to not use this event as a crutch, instead learn from it all and mold Connor into the very best person he can be!

Posted by hillhoppy on November 21, 2008 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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GREATLY APPRECIATED FOR BRYAN'S SON CONNOR
THANK YOU.

Posted by ValerinaS on November 24, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow... I'm sorry, but if what the one post, T1276 is correct, HELLO!!! My dad would have done the exact same thing. Obviously, presuming that post is truly someone who has knowledge of the situation (obviously the VCS isn't going to reveal it)if you heard hard pounding on your door, didn't know what the heck was going on because you were in a SOUND SLEEP, grabbed your gun for protection, opened the door to find your daughter being assaulted, grabbed the guy to get him OFF your daughter, or maybe was attacked by the guy, who knows, and the gun went off killing someone.... makes sense to me!! No man has a right to lay a hand on a woman (or vice-versa) PERIOD!! I would be surprised if drugs and alcohol were NOT involved. I'm sure there will be toxicology results, not that we'll hear about them.

Posted by ValerinaS on November 24, 2008 at 4:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One more thing...

To truthbtold- obviously if the girl was being abused or using drugs, she has problems. But no one, and I mean NO ONE deserves to get abused.