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Joseph A. Garcia / Star staff Sheriff's deputies say they found drugs in the Ventura home of former Hells Angels leader George Christie Jr.
Joseph A. Garcia / Star staff The father of 4-year-old Finn, George Christie Jr. spends most of his time at home because of a motorcycle accident last year, his attorney said.
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Ventura County prosecutors did not file drug charges at Friday's scheduled arraignment of former Hells Angels leader George Christie Jr., and his attorney said the delay was evidence of a weak case stemming from years of vindictive, costly intimidation against his client.
"This continues a pattern of harassment," said Los Angeles defense attorney Robert Sheahen.
Delays in filing charges, however, are not uncommon, and people shouldn't read too much into it, Senior Deputy District Attorney Derek Malan said. The office has three years to file, he said.
"We expect to file felony charges against Mr. Christie once our investigation is complete," Malan said, declining further comment.
Christie was arrested last week — the day before his 61st birthday — after members of a Sheriff's Department gang unit found less than 2 grams of suspected cocaine and methamphetamine in his Ventura home, police said. A gram of cocaine can sell for $50 to $100 on the street.
The substances were discovered after one of three search warrants was served at Christie's home in the 400 block of Ventura Avenue. Deputies also determined Christie was under the influence of cocaine and methamphetamine, officials said.
A second search warrant was served at the home of Joe Cerezo, 34, who deputies said is a member of the Hells Angels. Cerezo, who lives in the 2900 block of Apache Avenue in Ventura, was arrested after deputies found a stolen shotgun in his bedroom, authorities said. Cerezo also has not been charged yet.
A search warrant was also served at the Hells Angels clubhouse at 65 Fix Way, Ventura. Several members were detained at the site, but no arrests were made.
Wearing a black sweat suit and glasses, Christie stood at his court appearance Friday, which lasted less than a minute because prosecutors said they needed more time to investigate. Christie agreed to return to court May 16.
It was his first time back in criminal court since 2004, when a judge denied a request to reduce his probation in a previous case so he could pursue a career in film and television.
Christie declined to comment on the new case. But Sheahen said in interviews this week that Christie has relinquished his role as president and unofficial spokesman for the Hells Angels motorcycle club.
This stuff is loony'
Sheahen said authorities are wasting taxpayers' money going after Christie. The father of a 4-year-old boy, Christie spends most of his time at home, particularly since a motorcycle accident last year put him under a doctor's care, the attorney said.
"All of this stuff is loony. It's nonsense," Sheahen said, speculating any drugs found in Christie's system likely were prescribed. "He's been a perfect probationer" since a massive 2001 drug and racketeering case that made national headlines, Sheahen said.
Christie was accused of being the leader of a prescription drug ring that targeted schoolchildren and was one of 28 people indicted by a Ventura County Grand Jury in February 2001. Many of the defendants, including Christie, later reached plea bargains and pleaded to lesser charges.
Prosecutors ultimately dropped 57 of 59 counts and enhancements filed against Christie. He pleaded guilty in 2002 to one count of conspiracy to possess the prescription drug Vicodin for sale, and no contest to a count of filing a false income tax return. He received three years' probation and time served for the 390 days he spent in jail.
Authorities released few details about last week's arrest, citing an ongoing investigation. The search warrants were sealed. But authorities said they were not buying that Christie is a reformed man.
"He admitted to the drugs" found in his belongings, sheriff's Sgt. Dave Murray said Friday.
Deputies searched his house for evidence of a possibly stolen motorcycle, Murray said. Christie cooperated and later agreed to a urine test, which "came back dirty for cocaine, meth and opiates," Murray said.
Sheriff's Capt. Mike Aranda, who leads the county gang unit, described the Hells Angels as an active criminal street gang worth the time and taxpayer expense to monitor.
"The Hells Angels are absolutely a street gang. We've made a number of arrests of Hells Angels members," mostly on assault and drug-related charges, Ventura police Lt. Quinn Fenwick said. "And I believe we will continue to have problems with them."
Bunch of old guys'
Sheahen disagreed. "There is this mystique that the Hells Angels are bad people and we need to get these bad people," he said, "when in reality, it's mostly a bunch of old guys riding their motorcycles around."
County officials said they spent about $2 million on the 2001-02 case against the Hells Angels, but some think the figure is closer to $6 million.
"I think (former District Attorney Mike) Bradbury spent $6 million to get George on probation," said Sheahen. "Maybe (current District Attorney Greg) Totten can spend $6 million to get him on derision."
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Posted by goldeneye on May 3, 2008 at 6:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If the guy had methamphetamine and cocaine in his house, then he's probably just an old pathetic junky.
Posted by senorbriar on May 3, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
sounds like a prop 36 case to me at best
Posted by zulumaster on May 3, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
sounds like the Star is a fan of the HA's
WHAT A JOKE!!!
Posted by Face on May 3, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
In other words, "We are going to keep looking into why we have arrested him and see if we cannot find a reason someday". In 3 years it will be dropped and nobody will see that story, you'll see.
Posted by jill on May 3, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Shouldn't this case be referred to Child Protective Services? Children shouldn't be raised by drug-using gangsters.
Posted by Face on May 3, 2008 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No charges, so I guess not.
Posted by Mike666 on May 3, 2008 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am making sure America knows the hells angels are scumbags that have had 10 members and a members son that makes 11 but we won't count the son so 10 hells angels in the USA out the approx.330 USA gang members we counted but that includes some in jail now well anyway TEN 10 members in the papers over a years time for harming raping molesting and murdering women and children.I am tired of newspapers and support scum fudging facts. The hells angels are scumbags I tell them every chance.In that same years time I have also read about the hells angels chicken head members ganging on and beating and killing an older man in Washington state a couple of angels over the last month in the paper in NY state going to jail for planning to murder people they did not like , Then more angels in the papers for drugs .The 10 hells angels chicken head members in the papers for harming and murdering women and children was just Disgusting. I would think if that gang had any decent men in it that would have been the time to Quit. Supporting their fellow members that harm ,rape molest and murder women and children is way over the line .The Nevada hells angels chicken heads MC president Dave Burgess was caught with child porn in Wyoming. The papers said he was on his way to a gathering of hells angels flocks. What why was he going there with child porn. He was found guilty in Wyoming on April18 ,2008. I wonder how many other angels may be involved? I hope all those children are alive and safe. God Bless All the women and Children that have been Victims of the Hells angels chicken head MC. No hells angels should support their women and child abusers. I don't understand why all these fat useless mid aged men want to date and support a hells angels and his chapter. I prefer Charley"s angels over Sonny's angels but I am in very good condition and very different then hells angels and the men that support them.
Posted by Mike666 on May 3, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
When did women and child abuse become cool and something to support?I don't care if George sits in his house high all day or strait It don't concern me at all.The kid looks healthy . a cute little boy.I personally don't do drugs and I hate pot. So if George wants to play top Rooster over the chicken heads in his gang and family man then I would think he should be the person to start throwing out the women and child abusers and all the scumbags that support them.The angels have got to stop worrying about size and start being bikers instead of a place for women and child abusers to blend in and find support.On there own time and personal life they can deal with the size issue.
Posted by Face on May 3, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The Hells Angels are a motorcycle club, not a gang. Do some of them commit crimes? Yes. Do some people in your clique, social status, or family? Yes. The Hells Angels have donated their time and efforts towards fantastic charitable causes some of which are dear to my family. You paint them with a broad brush because you are racist and drool at the thought of whitey being in a 'gang'. I went to the river last weekend for the River Run. 50,000 of your 'gangsters' visited and had a great time. No violence, no problems, quite uneventful for law enforcement. Thing is also, they were from all kinds of clubs, sorry, 'gangs'. Keep your generalizing racist comments out of the public forum. You should be ashamed of yourself. Motorcycle enthusiasts shouldn't have to be ostracized because of a few bad apples.
Posted by Mike666 on May 3, 2008 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey face you just like all hells angels support members mix words. GET this STRAIT THERE are Approx. 330 USA hells angels 10 USA hells angels in a years time in the paper for rape harming molesting and murdering women and children. No one is calling Bikers gangsters . I am calling the hells angels chicken head MC gang scumbags. Face 10 out of 330 members deal with and protect that percent and chances are your a child and or women abuser. 10 with in a year in the paper out of 330 . I am talking about USA hells angels . They are not bikers they are scumbags that ride bikes
Posted by Mike666 on May 3, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face this article is about a hells angels member and the hells angels not bikers just this gang of trash.
Posted by Mike666 on May 3, 2008 at 5:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face you have a lot of nerve acting like the 330 or so USA hells angels represent bikers in the USA. The approx. 330 scumbags in the USA hells angels chicken head gang are what they are . No one ever thinks every biker is a scumbag that tittle scumbag biker is reserved for hells angels and the lower trash that support them.
Posted by Mike666 on May 3, 2008 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Jill you have a great point but yet I hate to see kids lose parents that love them and they love. Drugs may be bad and ruin lives but I do believe good parents can be drunks and drug addicts and smart enough to shield their children from their own vices.I am not protecting this man at all but I have seen casual drinkers and casual drug users lead normal life some have achieved more then those that have never used drugs or drank.I knew of doctors and lawyers taking meds for stress , sleep ,energy. Hell it gave them a good sleep when needed and energy when needed. so I guess they never would have been such Great citizens with out drugs.ON the other hand I have seen may people blow the family inheritance on drugs.I do understand your point and what I don't like is most professionals will grab kids out of a good home and by the time the study is done the damage of taking the child out of the home was done and the kids can lose the feeling of being safe in their home with their parents.I think if you know your being watched for your kids sake stay clean.If you can't do that then you may have a problem.
Posted by Mike666 on May 3, 2008 at 7:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
FACE From reading newspapers and speaking to bikers. It appears when a hells angels charges are dropped that usually means he ratted on the gang or the supporters and their gang. Look at whats happening in Canada Giles Walked the other 2 non members charged convicted and I think sentenced.I think Friday a hells angels sargent at arms was rating on more hells angels support members .all the little supporters of the hells angels started getting busted after the hells angels started walking.I think 17 more support members last week and a lot more last month.I think the hells angels still have that side show song and dance going that keeps them out of prison.
Posted by Pogmothoin on May 3, 2008 at 7:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hang in there George. Another bogus bust.
Posted by Pogmothoin on May 3, 2008 at 7:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mike666 - You sound like a real authority, but there are more than 330 Angels riding today and despite what you think, they're just a MC club, granted the best MC club, but still just a club, not a gang.
Posted by FedUp on May 3, 2008 at 8:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am sure there was not going to be violence at the river run, since all of them are supporting the same cause. bikes, drugs, and gangs.
HA's in the city of Ventura are a CRIMINAL STREET GANG! Plain and simple. I love how the STAR shows a picture of george with his kid, making him out to be some kind of family man. what kind of parent does coke and meth? a horrible parent, thats who.
I guess we now know why Sabien is running things in VTA now as well. george's bike accident. he was probably high on coke and meth when he crashed. good example for his kids....
Posted by Mike666 on May 3, 2008 at 9:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
pogmothoin in the USA there is less then 330 chicken head hells angels members unless the rest are still hiding . Canada had more then the USA and just listen to those Canadian angels sing. they have ratted on anyone that ever supported them or joined. the Canadian numbers have fallen a lot.soon they will have less then the USA I think.Post your list so I can see who I have missed . thanks Put them by state and chapter. I think you'll see I am close.
Posted by bob100 on May 3, 2008 at 10:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow - I haven't seen a fluff piece like that in a long time. Who says the Star is biased against law enforcement? It just ain't so! I mean, sure, every other news outlet immediately rushes out to the criminal's home to take warm and cuddly pictures of the crook with his child. I'm almost got misty-eyed. "2 grams of suspected cocaine and methamphetamine in his Ventura home." Would that be the same home that child lives in? How sweet. Maybe Child Protective Services should be out there instead of the Star kissing his butt.
Posted by Mike666 on May 4, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey pogmothion my list is getting shorter I just took off the 3 dead from 2002 and other roadkill . I think its around 320 counting out and in prison under rock in sewers and every where else hells angels may be.I came up with around 320 USA chicken head hells angels members but thats could still include some dead , or very old and soon to be dead.The largest increase in fowl in the USA in recent years has been Maryland because its a new novelty for the rubs and yuppies in the surrounding area wanting a place to support women and child abusers. If you're looking for heroes that harm rape molest and murder women and children and carry child porn , the hells angels may be what your looking for.I hope George keeps his kid away from the members.
Posted by Mike666 on May 4, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree I think the star has wrote one hell of a fluff piece.George those people have very good points about drugs and kids don't mix. I think most people would not want their children around men that support their gang brothers who have harmed women and children. I think at 61 its time you thinned out your foul flock or do the crazy parrot and pull out your own feathers.Your Kid needs a father not a 61 year old punk gang member that may use drugs.Good luck with being a father don't bring the kid into the sewerage with you.
Posted by Mike666 on May 4, 2008 at 5:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
hells angels always talking about freedom of expression and freedom of speech etc.then you crying , sobbing sissy punks always talk libel and slander. Punk .Chicken head maggot all those names seem to describe hells angels very well.Stop hiding behind the chicken head on your costume and grow up cry baby. LOL we will Sue you. you sissy hells angels a gang were every member is a b---- named sue you.hit me I sue you talk bad I sue you LOL ROTFLMAO At hells angels.the hells angels can't fight but the lawyers TCB Freedom of expression and freedom of speech is a 2 way deal, Deal with .
Posted by Mike666 on May 4, 2008 at 5:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sorry the above post Is in the wrong forum.
Posted by Mike666 on May 4, 2008 at 5:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sorry the above post Is in the wrong forum.
Posted by pacman08 on May 4, 2008 at 5:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So is it common practice for the County Star to take photo's of someone playing with their child after that person has been arrested for drug possesion charges?
Posted by Mike666 on May 4, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hells angels a bunch of punks that cannot handle the world on their own so they hide behind a chicken head looking emblem like cowards and lash out at the world that they cannot handle on their own .The hells angels chicken head gang members are funny looking out of shape all kinds of shapes mostly round. they can't walk run or fight but they have a desire to be treated like tough guys so they fight in a gang against individuals like me and they get their ass beat anyway.If that gang of filthy fowl freaks did not harm so many women and children they would be funny as hell to watch them get around playing tough guy because thats how they roll ROTFLMAO at all the hells angels and the cowards that support them
Posted by surfmedic91 on May 5, 2008 at 8:42 a.m.
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Posted by mmshoot on May 5, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I believe that this article says that the District Attorney did not file charges in time because of a delay in the investigation of all of the crimes involved. Then the court allowed them a certain amount of time to complete the investigations and file additional charges and open up new investigations. Why should we re-hash this stuff? It is the decision of the courts and the District Attorney. That is all there seems to be here.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 9:41 a.m.
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Posted by Face on May 5, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
So... 3% of Hells Angels are criminal according to Mike666. Hardly a number I would use to describe them as a Gang or Chicken heads etc. In fact, that sounds like a general population statistic. I hope this doesn't dissuade Hell's Angel members from donating their time and efforts on the good causes they champion. There are plenty of us folks who appreciate it. Not all of think that a few bad apples spoil the bunch.
Posted by surfmedic91 on May 5, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
face, he's calling them Chicken Heads as a put down because of their death head logo on their vests.
Posted by mmshoot on May 5, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
So... 3% of Face is criminal according to me. Who cares what I think? LOL, Face. I never judge, I just watch tendencies in order to predict trends. You can still join the Heck's Angels.
Posted by joflo13 on May 5, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How freaking funny and typical. LMAO. All you morons just love to talk crap from your computers without using your real names. Don't you? How noble you are. Have some balls and say what you gotta say...TO THEIR FACE. They have a club house on Fix Way in West Ventura. It's easy to find. Just drop on by and tell how you feel. Same applies for any other "Bad People" that you have an opinion on that you would like to express to them. Other wise just keep on being the same lame you that you are and continue doing it here.
Stay up George. Don't let these sissys get you down.
-Jose Flores
Posted by goaliegirl69 on May 5, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I doubt there are many (if any) outside of those with badges that would be willing to face down a Hell's Angel and tell them how they feel... Their reputation is less than exemplary when it comes to the hospitality of others.
Posted by mmshoot on May 5, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have no idea who Mike666 is and it appears that his comments have been removed by the site staff.
Posted by surfmedic91 on May 5, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Jose, good job. The traffic on the Avenue is backed up now because of the line to the club house. I heared it's not because people want to tell them what they think of them. It's because they're selling lemonade for a quarter.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
FACE your wrong again Over 3 % of the gang have been in the papers over the last year just for harming and raping molesting and murdering women and Children. I think I have read about 3 or 4 in Washington for beating robbing and killing an old man. 6 in Arkansaw for beating people with bats 2 in NY state for planning to murder and something else. way to many more . So as you can see that makes 20 in the paper that I have seen over the last year. 2 more in up north shooting at people2 more in Arizona for ganging up and beating on a young man.The 2 clowns in this story Dam thats 26 with in a year in the papers If I dig I can probably find alot more. I think between 7-10 % of the gang have been in the papers this year being blamed or convicted and sentenced for some crime. around 3 PERCENT in the papers with in a year for harming raping molesting and murdering Women and Children I have narrowed the angels down to around 320 USA hells angels chicken head members that includes jail these 26 have been in the papers within the last year do you want me to look for more?This stuffs in the newspapers I am only saying what I have read and counted. show me different.
Posted by yani_chingas on May 5, 2008 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If mike 666 REALLY went up to the HA's and sounded off we wouldn't have to read another post by him. See if your mouth is as brave as your fingers. Doubt it.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think its sad that you supporters think a bunch of fat or skinny men that look like they have never played a sport or walked around a block with out a support members help are tough.I can point out more hells angels arrested for harming raping molesting and murdering women and children then I could point out tough hells angels. I know their toughest 7 cannot come close to beating me in a real fight unless they used a gun and I am getting old now.I am sure I can beat 2-3 average angels and hell the rest 6 at a time. like cow tipping LOL like the poor cows can't fight back.I would never hurt an animal unless it attacked me.I'll will tell you this if a hells angels chicken head attacks me I will use deadly force them punks all end up jumping in they even admit that. The same with the support army. LOL the Hells angels supporters are usually tougher then the gang members LOL.
Posted by joflo13 on May 5, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Mike666, so when are you going to go to the club house and tell them how you feel about them. What's keeping you from paying them a visit? You seem to have alot of free time on your hands. You should go by there.
P.S. Get a life.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Yani are you saying the hells angels chicken head gang are such punks and cowards that they can't handle an argument with out acting up like a bunch of criminals?Whats really funny you never hear about these tough guys saying you got a problem pick any one of us and he will fight one on one.Thats because some chapters are all punks other chapter may only have 1 that may have a chance fighting with a normal man.So basically every hells angels is a coward on his own.they would never leave and go off and have a fight one on one with a man .So I guess you think the hells angels are such criminals that if I said my piece to their face they would harm me or kill me. Is that your point? Hey Jose is that your point also?I don't think the chicken heads would have the nerve to hit me should I knock on the door with a recording team to get the reaction?
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Jose are you the rooster in charge of protecting all the chicken heads?
Posted by Pogmothoin on May 5, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Support 81!!!!
AFFA
Posted by joflo13 on May 5, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Mike666, I don't know anything about any chicken heads. The HA's don't need my protection. You, on the other hand, might need protection running your mouth the way you do. Excuse me. Running your fingers the way you do.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Which hells angels chicken head gang house in the USA has the toughest meanest murderingest LOL chicken heads in the Country?What would be a good time to knock I don't want them to get upset and have them call the police on me .
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Jose Do you see that thing on the back of a hells angels gang jacket?That thing you see when they are scared and running away that funny looking head with feathers that looks like a chicken head.The sign of a coward and the pride of some street walkers.Some say it advertisement as to the powers of the wearer and the skill he or she possess.
Posted by joflo13 on May 5, 2008 at 3:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mike you're nothing more than a hater.
Posted by Face on May 5, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thousands of members and what... 30 have made a bad appearance in a newspaper? Sounds like you have an axe to grind Mike666, you a member of the Mongols? Anyway, your statistical data is statistically insignificant and shows if anything that they are as a whole no more prone to crime than the average working stiff.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face their are only about 320 USA hells angels.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face You make the Gang look worse lying about how many members their are.You can't stick up for the fact so you lie thats how chicken heads started and thats all the hells angels are is a lie . the angels are punks and cowards that hide behind lies
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face are you a hells angel or are you dating a hells angel?I have seen your lies and many postsand comments. whats your deal?
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 3:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You think?I am real disgusted that the hells angels gang had about 10 members within a years time in the papers for harming raping molesting and murdering women and children.Reading about 3 or 4 in Washington robbing beating and murdering an old man was kind of disturbing.The cowards in NYS with their 357 planning to murder men for no real reason 6 angels beating 3 men with a bat and what ever the angels 21 to 30's I think one of the victims was about 60 that was very disturbing Ohh 2 angels opening fire on some bikers out with their girl friends having a good time. Yes that was a scumbag thing for the angels to do.Ya starting a fight in a casino and getting charges on the men the angels attacked thats not cool. hells angels having hells angels support members starting trouble and getting killed to help the angels expand. thats not cool. Ohh ya and then having the men that defended their lives from the support members charged .Wow So the angels harm rape molest and murder women and children gang up and beat on older men falsely imprison rivals and turn rub yuppies and other cowards into support puppets that lie and do anything to please their angel.ohh and of course Mr Dave Burgess the Nevada hells angel pres that was caught with child porn and found guilty April18 2008 Yaaa Jose I am a hater.I think the A flack duck could take out the chicken head so thats how I roll.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What club house should we visit?
Posted by Face on May 5, 2008 at 5:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mike666, you harbor a great hatred towards the Hells Angels, why don't you tell us how you really feel? Maybe you should renounce Satan? At any rate, if you think there are only 300 Hells Angels in the U.S. you are out of your mind as everyone here can look up Hells Angels Membership on Google. I do not lie, I am the purveyor of truth in a murky world. Perhaps you are racist against European Americans as your gang lingo and lack of punctuation would suggest?
Posted by Face on May 5, 2008 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
BTW The latest numerical data I could find comes from Germany April 2008 where they say there are 3,000. Since the club started in California, I would have a very hard time believing there are 10 times as many of them in Germany as here.
Posted by mmshoot on May 5, 2008 at 5:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Perhaps Mike666 wants 6000 people to meet at his clubhouse.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 6:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face don't change fact their are only about 320 USA hells angels members would you like to see the list?In the world about 1400-1500 the angels lied about many things for many years the angels and their puppets put out the figures its not hard to count to 320 just look at each USA chapter and place the members next to the chapter then add its very easy. some angel chapter don't exist anymore and the angels still list them its all a numbers game I can name for you every member in every chapter were he lives etc.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So Then lets not tell me to go to a chapter without an invite you know them hells angels will be doing that chicken head dance while dialing 911.
Posted by Face on May 5, 2008 at 6:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Membership is confidential Mike, a few that want to have their names, faces, etc. associated with it in public are few. Using your logic there is no Las Chiques gang because I cannot find a list of names and faces. Get real.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face your so full of truth you won't say if your a hells angels or dating a hells angel. You just lied about so many facts and other silly things in your comments and posts. I think you just serve and obey your local angel feller
Posted by mmshoot on May 5, 2008 at 6:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You don't want to meet that motorcycle mama, Mike666. She's mean. And that family of hers, whew!
Posted by yani_chingas on May 5, 2008 at 6:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mike666 must be an employee of the Star to spur the comments or somehow tied to law enforcement. Can't figure out which. But not for real is a for sure thing. Just has some brave fingers. Go tell George. He's 61 but will make you sorry you ever lived.
Posted by Face on May 5, 2008 at 6:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Look Mike, you obviously don't want to face facts. I am beginning to think you were a victim of molestation at the hands of a Hells Angels member. I hope you can get some counseling and learn to deal with it constructively. Your rants are racist and threatening. Get some help now before it is too late. Oh, and though if I had to in order to satisfy your primitive curiosity, I don't even know how to ride a bike.. nor my wife. I guess for you I would need to then say I nor my wife are Hells Angels or personally know of one. And don't then tell me I do not know anything because of that, because that is using false logic. Go get hooked on phonics.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 6:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey face if the angels are to cowardly to speak, why do you bother protecting them? I guess the cowards in the gang only talk when they are busted.The angels use to to talk a great deal on line until everyone laughed and called them out to fight. LOL I think that keeps the angels from speaking in public forums. LOL. Well support studs you keep making your angel proud and you maybe wings will sprout up or something. You know the angels have been tagged and released back into the streets for years so I don't understand why you face like to make things bigger then what they really are.
Posted by Face on May 5, 2008 at 6:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I protect all groups from generalized statements that are based on emotion vs. logic. You have a HUGE chip on your shoulder, it will not do you well in life. I don't dislike you Mike "666" I am going to pray for you that you can find peace and get that weight off your chest. I am sorry for whatever they did to harm you in such a way.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 6:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face I have a list with every member and every personal effect that I cannot post here but your lies are lies. Name the largest chapter FAce or the smallest . The toughest USA members name or the other 319 punks? Every support member every fool that posts for the angels everything is recorded and sorted.eventually all the names addresses phone numbers compiled and thats how it all works.So who do you think your fooling.so you punks keep posting and when your angel sells you out you'll be in to deep by your own words.what are you going to say when you hells angel blames YOU?
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 6:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face I fight child abuse around the world I got a big chip on my shoulder because I am great at what I do. No one gets hurt but the bad guy when I am around.
Posted by Face on May 5, 2008 at 7:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Uhhh yeah o.k. you really are quite unstable. I know because you are on my secret list I have that I cannot post here of course. Your grandiosity precedes you. You are burning your cause down which is (my word for the day) Blunderous.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face your a stone cold punk lier that only covers for the cowards in the hells angels. Your punk self is on here protecting cowards that harm women and children. Tell me Face have you meet the many children that have no mother because a hells angels member murdered their mother. Face have you met any of the children molested by hells angels or do you just poke fun at them like you tried with me? Face do you blame the Victim or the hells angel?Face do you know if out of the 10' of thousands of pictures on dave lap top if all those children are now safe some where? YOU don't give a dam you only want to protect your hells angels .
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 7:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
hey punk give me your address I will show it to you when I am in your town its not a secret list fruitcake . Its not legal for me to post everyone info here stop acting like a hells angels fool
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey face the hells angels said also in public even on web sites they have no undercover hells angels LOL. I know thats not true because they have a few cowards living out of hells angels area afraid with out the protection of the gang. But Face I counted them Face.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 7:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face your just a hells angel propaganda puppet. How do you feel about Dave burgess being found guilty on those child porn charges? Did you find out what you can do to help those families on Daves lap top? Face what have the hells angels ever done to any of their women and child abusers ?NOTHING
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yani can you see this thats my Gold finger. you like ?Cool ! the rest are platinum. watch me now type type you like? you like it like that?
Posted by Face on May 5, 2008 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Someone take out the trash please. I thought this would be fun, but now it is boring.
Posted by Pogmothoin on May 5, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yawn.
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face your a stone cold punk lier that only covers for the cowards in the hells angels. Your punk self is on here protecting cowards that harm women and children. Tell me Face have you meet the many children that have no mother because a hells angels member murdered their mother. Face have you met any of the children molested by hells angels or do you just poke fun at them like you tried with me? Face do you blame the Victim or the hells angel?Face do you know if out of the 10' of thousands of pictures on dave lap top if all those children are now safe some where? YOU don't give a dam you only want to protect your hells angels .well if your so bored stop lying and answer the questions
Posted by Mike666 on May 5, 2008 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Face give me your address I will show the list to you when I am in your town its not a secret list . Its not legal for me to post everyone info here .stop acting like a hells angels fool
Posted by mmshoot on May 5, 2008 at 9:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I would like to quote the article: "This stuff is loony'"
Posted by Pogmothoin on May 6, 2008 at 7:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
And by stuff, you mean a certain commenter???
Posted by mmshoot on May 6, 2008 at 8:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
No, Pog! I think that person is beyond loony. I think Face was on the right track but beyond finding comfort with simply psycho-analytic therapy. Perharps more drastic form of treatment such as electro-shock and time only to meditate in a comfy padded room. Otherwise, said person will probably find peace and solitude in a cold, concrete cell.
Posted by Pogmothoin on May 6, 2008 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hopefully with lots of little flying chicken heads to keep him company.
Posted by Ms_California on May 6, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
it's mostly a bunch of old guys riding their motorcycles around."
What a bunch of crap! All the HA's I see are not old guys and most of the time they aren't even on their motorcycles!
Posted by Mike666 on May 6, 2008 at 8:40 a.m.
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Posted by mmshoot on May 6, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I've seen or know or read about all those kinds of people, Mike666. I just say all HA's that join-up are molesting gang bangers. Some just like flying their colors and riding Harleys. Are all the people you've seen or hang with nice guys? I doubt it.
Posted by mmshoot on May 6, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Should say: "...are NOT molesting...."
Posted by Pogmothoin on May 6, 2008 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I answer the questions for Face. Hope you can understand English, as this is unclear from you comments.
1) Yes, I have met them. Bunch of unruly brats if you ask me.
2) See answer #1
3) The victim.
4) Don't care.
Posted by stave1 on May 7, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have been too busy to read or contribute to any of this blog. My take is that there are quite a few bloggers on this one that are to close for comfort for me. Some of these people know a lot more about what is going on than the normal hard working majority. Since I am a victim of several of their crimes I feel I can contribute some to this blog. My husband was killed by the HAs (Motorcycle accident) and then they hung my beautiful niece and made it look like (suicide)leaving an orphaned child. Both tragic accidents. both were 40 days apart. But because it is so extreme the only people I can talk to about it is the shrink. Otherwise, I would be concidered a looney tune. These are the suttle ways the HAs work. There are things in this blog that only one percent of the world would know. Not enough can be said about the hang arounds-these are the people who want to be HAs and lack some intellegence to accually make it. so they are the ones that usually pull all of the crimes, that were thought up by the brighter HAs. scary isn't it?
Mike666 I feel your pain. Please seek help it will help you to feel better. You don't need to be that close to the HAs either. That is your choice. Personally, I choose the good life the one God chose for me. Forgiveness is a hard thing to do.....I don't know the to what extreme they nailed you. but, I can tell it was not good.
Posted by Mike666 on May 7, 2008 at 5:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Stave I don't know your story so I won't comment just as you should not comment on me. I think the hells angels are the biggest scumbags in the world and I see no harm in taking some time out of the wonderful life I have to make normal people aware of what the hells angels really are.You can hide and tell your story thats on you. I am real tough and I don't have to hide . People involved and I am sure the police know who I am.If ha step I slap that punk back. thats how I roll. LOL.Do you see how upset the punks get when someone talks back? LOL I play with my keyboard and I make hells angels and their support gang members flip out LOL. they hate not having the upper hand that people like you give them. I am much to tough for hells angels and their support punks to beat up so they won't invite me to the club house . thats why you seen them dare me and then back out because someone in charge new who they were dealing with.I can beat anyone of them in a real fight but those punks only fight in a gang against men like me.Sorry about your losses but its people like me that will put an end to the angels and what they have done to people like you .what happened to you will never happen when people like me are around.
Posted by Mike666 on May 7, 2008 at 5:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Stave 1 The sad thing about some people is they think people need a reason to do the right thing.Why would you think a man that hates the hells angels because the hells angels rape molest and murder women and children would need any other reason? isn,t that a good enough reason?The hells angels scumbags support their members that rape molest and murder women and children thats also a good reason.
Posted by Pogmothoin on May 7, 2008 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin bushwackin, hornswaglin, cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter.
Posted by mmshoot on May 8, 2008 at 6:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bishen cutter, Pogmothoin? Gotta cypher sum on that'n. Hayever, y'all seem like a frenly critter.
Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on May 8, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)
They dontate to charitable causes, just so you ignorant people out there say..."hey there not so bad, they dontate to toys for tots" You have been fooled!
Question:
Do all HA's ride pos harleys?
Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on May 8, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Reverend!!!!
I love that gabby johnson prairie gibberish!
Posted by mmshoot on May 8, 2008 at 1:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Bless you, LivinInPoorMansPV. Let us pray that this this HA and his daughter get what they justly deserve. And let us pray of the salvation of all evil Hell's Angeles everywhere. Praise be where you seek it! Amen.
Posted by thisiswhatshesaid on May 8, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Whos does this Mike666 think he is?? Is he from San Degio? What the hell is he thinking... what an IDOIT!
Posted by stave1 on May 8, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
For me, I am not afraid. For my family I am. With so much loss and the losses so close together I don't feel free to disclose who I am. However, there are a lot of people who know my story, some of which is my Shrink, another is my Doctor and another is my Priest. The story is all in writing with the proof in different hands. In case of my untimely death, the story will be told and what proof I have will be shown. Maybe it's enough to support the story and the light will shine down on the Big Red Machine and friends;)
Mike666, you are very crass and I would not spend time with you. However, I appreciate the fact that you are concerned for Widows, Women and children enough to fight for us. Forgive me if I don't seem to trust your intentions. I have no reason to trust or not to trust you. But I don't really have it in me for another loss from the HAs & Friends.
Posted by Mike666 on May 8, 2008 at 6:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well Stave 1 good luck and God Bless you and your remaining family members.If you are that scared maybe you should not even put the detail about your husband and child in the newspapers anymore . I am sure if what you wrote is true the perps would know who they are and therefor who you are.Well the way the hells angels are shrinking maybe they will be all in jail or roadkill in the near future.Well I think in most cases scumbags will not bother you or your family if they know that they will be killed or reported to the police. The scumbags get brave only when they have folks to scared to fight back or call the police.You should never live in a free country and be afraid to speak or do what you want in fear of a gang.
Posted by stave1 on May 9, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank you Mike666
Posted by Mike666 on May 9, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ex-Hells Angel gets 57-month sentence
Today May 9 2008 in Telegram.com Worcester/Wachusett section look for the story.Russel Sinkis This is another of the scumbags in the hells angels I was writing about . One of his victims was a 78 year old women and he has 3 orders of protection from 3 different women and waiting for court for a case involving a 14 year old girl.I guess the hells angels had to get rid of this guy once the newspapers got the story.Many more scumbags in that gang of scumbags
Posted by Mike666 on May 9, 2008 at 5:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
WWII "Angels" get their due
By Howard Pankratz .Look in the denverpost.com
WWII "Angels" get their due
By Howard Pankratz
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 05/09/2008 02:15:15 AM MDT
These women and the men of the bomber crews were the real hells angels not this gang of filth on motorcycles. Not one of the gang members was ever a real hells angels from the war.I hate the way the hells angels motor gang desecrated the name of real American Heros
Posted by Mike666 on May 9, 2008 at 6:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Go to that article and show your support for these dolls that helped America when America needed them .
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