Posted by lakerboy805 on July 21, 2008 at 3:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

what's a wedding without a fight..

Posted by desdave on July 21, 2008 at 4 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You're so right laker, drink a bunch of beer, have brawl. Nothing says I love you like good wedding reception fight. That is just about the most low life, trailer trash thing there is.

Posted by desdave on July 21, 2008 at 4:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way, is there something in some groups DNA, that when exposed to alcohol, results in uncontrollable violence? I mean come on, fights/stabbings/shootings at weddings, birthdays, block parties, or any other normally fun gathering, have become almost the norm. I know, sounds like stereotyping, but if the sun rises every morning is it stereotypeing say that it will probably rise tomorrow as well?

Posted by jjp009 on July 21, 2008 at 5:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Low lifes + alcohol + cake knives + getting dissed by someone while waiting in line for cake = Bloody violence!

Posted by opfor2 on July 21, 2008 at 5:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Isn't this just typical !!!

Posted by jill on July 21, 2008 at 6:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

jjp009 - LOL! A wedding is the perfect opportunity to deal with unresolved family issues! Now, that's class!

Posted by Freedom1 on July 21, 2008 at 6:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Funny, I've been to a lot of weddings and never before knew that a fighting and violence were supposed to be part of the event. I feel cheated!

Posted by danp on July 21, 2008 at 6:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That sounds like one hell of a wedding. Nothing says wedding like Wild Turkey and a good old fashioned street brawl

Posted by spooky4you on July 21, 2008 at 7:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How classy.

Posted by OxnardNative on July 21, 2008 at 7:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I wonder if it was the bride or groom that married into this, or if they each brought the same family values (or should I say LACK OF values) to the table? What a great way to start a life together! Oxnard rules! :-)

Posted by jjp009 on July 21, 2008 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jill: How about this? Wedding dress: $2,000.00; Caterer: $5,000.00; Florist: $1,500.00; Your new husband getting stabbed in the neck by your bridesmaid's cousin, Paco: Priceless. Life comes at you fast...for everything else, there's Mastercard.

Posted by stopit on July 21, 2008 at 7:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the couple must have requested a Jerry Springer theme for their blessed wedding.I hope the're not planning on having children.

Posted by jill on July 21, 2008 at 7:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hahaha! You beat me to it! That went through my mind, too. These post are so funny. Can you say D-I-V-O-R-C-E? Or maybe an annulment might be a good move for one of the parties. Although I have some relatives that the banjo playing from "Deliverance" would be perfect background music for. And, no, they are not invited to formal occasions!

Posted by camgurl on July 21, 2008 at 7:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This reminds me of that show Bridezilla!

Posted by 805m0mma on July 21, 2008 at 7:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

soooo tacky!

Posted by twbeem on July 21, 2008 at 7:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I wish my wedding had a good brawl. Would have been a better start. Glad I don't have in-laws anymore.

Posted by pjlove10 on July 21, 2008 at 7:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I wanna invite to the next wedding! I'll bring Micheal Buffer and the championship belt.
"Let's get ready to RUMBLE!!!!"

Posted by pific on July 21, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I can tell you that the future of the newly weds is not going to be bright. A fight at their reception?? what a way to start their future. Maybe they can appear at the Jerry Springer show. good luck!!!!

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on July 21, 2008 at 8:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Knights of Columbus raise money by renting out the Hall ... and all profits go directly to charitible causes. I certainly hope that the Knights do not have to absorb any costs or other liability from the riot.

This one has me more disgusted than usual because I can relate to it. At our church, quinceañera parties and wedding receptions have resulted in literally pounds of gum on the bottoms of pews, tequila bottles broken in the parking lot and other damage. When quinceañera parties and wedding receptions are held in our parish hall, security is required. This is not as it should be.

Regarding the three males who were arrested, one has escaped appearances in Ventura County Superior Court ... at least until now ... unless he was there as a juvenile. Two of them are convicted felons, one just barely into the adult category. Amongst the two, we see charges ranging from street terrorism, to deadly weapons, committing a felony to benefit a street gang, the expected not showing financial responsibility and on to residential burglary. Many of the charges were dropped by the DA which is indicative of yet another problem.

Congratulations to the judges, civil rights attorneys and activists who are succeeding, little by little, in driving the deterioration of what was a wonderful place to live.

Posted by reality_hurts on July 21, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Trash......

Posted by oxnard40 on July 21, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How can you people be so insensitive? You guys don't even know the whole story. Please respect the privacy of this family.

Posted by Star7 on July 21, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"the drunken crowd" Why were 18 & 19s DRUNK!

Posted by dom_kenpo on July 21, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I bet there were redheads involved.

Posted by Ms_California on July 21, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WOW! I mean com'on I know mother-in-laws can be TERRIBLE! but to stab her the night of your wedding.... I don't think you will be in any of the wills now!

Posted by oxnard40 on July 21, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh Please! I'm just Bull Sh**ing. What a joke. Mom gets cut at sons wedding. This is Letterman and Leno material. Way to go Ventura County!

Posted by Star7 on July 21, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You haven't met Delphina Hernandez, if you did, you'd understand. It's good to hear she is finally taking her place as a mom.

Posted by hotwildflower on July 21, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, this same story is on Foxnews.com...just yesterday the Larry King story was on MSN just as you opened the site. It's nice to see that Ventura County is being represented so well, makes me so proud!

Posted by Machine on July 21, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well... looks like Max, Jonathan and Joe were a little upset they didn't catch the bouquet...

Posted by ca4ever on July 21, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

star7 - Nice to know she is finally taking her place as a MOM??? With a knife at a wedding? You are crazy

Posted by 805m0mma on July 21, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hotwildflower-I was so shocked to see the Larry King Story on MSN. I did a double take.

Posted by Star7 on July 21, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

She probably started it, any mother would have been taken to saftey. Sound like she was up in the mix.

Posted by BigJake on July 21, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So much for the knife only being used to cut the cake . . . .

Posted by oxnard40 on July 21, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Same article was posted on ktla.com. Great image next to the headline.

Posted by Star7 on July 21, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They've all been released! Wow!

Posted by lakerboy805 on July 21, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It was prolly an open bar.

Posted by Star7 on July 21, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They had to arrest somebody. They don't want to look bad.

Posted by BeaHappi on July 21, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

...5 years later in the Delphia household:

"Look kids, here's a picture of mommy and daddy at the church, saying our vows. Here we are cutting our wedding cake. Oh and look, there's grandma with the face cut from the drunken brawl...ahhh, seems like only yesterday..."

Posted by BeaHappi on July 21, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry..."Hernandez family..."

Posted by BeaHappi on July 21, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mmshoot...after "bring a knife to the wedding party" you need to insert "drink copious amounts of alcohol" and then the rule is complete.

Posted by bbbdugout on July 21, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

amazing - someone said respect the privacy of the family - are you joking - everyday in the newspaper there's another stabbing or shooting during a family gathering - to the police I say - "job security"

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow!!! Just another prime example of how absolutely wonderful alcohol is.I am so sad for the aunts,uncles,and most importantly the CHILDREN that were exposed to such nonsense.I know this family very well and I am very glad that we chose not to attend.I have mad love for this family but I am also aware of the fact that alcohol was definetly gonna be a factor in this occasion and that it would probably turn out to be disasterous.I am so sad for the bride and groom that this will be the memory that taints there special day.BTW they atr not trashy people but I guess guilt by association is ood enough in this case.I did not think Delphina was the grooms mom cause she definetly did not play the role for a long long time.The fact that she is being labeled as the grooms mom really makes this story look worse the it already is.

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Posted by oxnard40 on July 21, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bea. Do you really think this marriage is going to last 5 years? This was just the wedding.

We still got Thanksgiving and Christmas to think of.

Wait til Mother's Day next year.

Posted by pjlove10 on July 21, 2008 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gawd, I wish I was a stand-up comedian. I'd have enough material for at 15mn, I'd kill!

Posted by sirdvsdsw on July 21, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This was just a joke gone bad. I placed "Im the pinata" signs on half of the guests.... Made for a great video though, ONLY $19.95...gettem while there hot!!!!

Posted by Ms_California on July 21, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Was the "stabbing knife" engraved with the bride and groom's names?

Posted by pjlove10 on July 21, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They've goen national: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,3...

Posted by BeaHappi on July 21, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

oxnard40...ha ha! Originally I was going to put 10 years and then changed it to 5!!

Posted by pjlove10 on July 21, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sry, "gone"... lol

Posted by BeaHappi on July 21, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ms_California...those were the wedding favors!

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The bride a groom have been together for a long time already.in excess of 5 years.They are cool people.Alcohol changes everything.I think the groom may have some questionable friends but that's his business.Sober this is a good family and they are a tight BIG family. They have been around Ventura for a long long time. I saw this article in the paper this morning and KNEW that this was gonna be the chat of the day. I knew people would be having a hay day with assumptions and trashing people they don't know.So not suprised that the simple minded judgemental did not let me down. BTW I also do not think very highly of Delphina.I have known her for a long time because I grew up on the Avenue and doi not feel she deserves to be called a mother.

Posted by BeaHappi on July 21, 2008 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

shuldbworkin805...they probably are cool people but they didn't use good judgement at their wedding apparently. I would have shut the bar down once it was obvious that people were way too wasted...especially with "questionable" friends in attendance.

And please, admit it...if you didn't know this couple you'd be chiming in with the barbs too.

Posted by BIGMAN on July 21, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

shuldbworkin805...lol i like how u got judgemental at the end of ur comment!..lol

Posted by BigJake on July 21, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It made the national news: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,3...

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bea I agree with you 100%.Not gonna deny any of that. BIGMAN.You are also right I did get judgemental based on my PERSONAL experience with this person.NOt based on assumption.

Posted by pjlove10 on July 21, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

shuldbworkin805 - A knife fight at a wedding. How can that NOT be hilarious? Lighten up... I can't even say it without laughing. "A knife fight at a wedding...LMAO."

Now for my politically correct statement: I'm glad no one was seriously hurt.

Posted by LH_805 on July 21, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

First of all everyone needs to stop withn the stupid comments that's not what happen, Delfina is not the grooms mother she was related what happen to her was a accident. The Mother of the groom did not get hurt she was fine. Also there was no 100 to 150 people fighting, it was way less than that the rest of them were trying to break it up the people fighting were just big and strong. There were no knifs involve at all there were bottles thrown and that's how people got hurt. The fight was not start by the grooms Family Or the Bride's Family, it was people that were not invited to the party. So the paper and the officers gave the wrong info, Its still not right what happen but it happen, common who doesen't get drunk and get loud theire is always someone that acts stupid, There always people that come to partys that are not invited some people just mess up I guess. What happen happen already but the story is not right it was not that bad like they make it seem. So people stop with the commements even though Some one will still say somthing negative. But the party was great! before all that happen.

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just so you all know,I am not geting a$$ hurt by your comments.I knew there would be some funny comments here.That is a lot of why I am staying logged on.I just felt someone needed to bring the realness of the situtation in.LH I did not think Delphina was his mom but was not sure about that.She is Joe's mom though right?I am sure all was great until the alcohol overpowered peoples self control.I am really glad that this situation did not turn out worse that it already was.

Posted by pjlove10 on July 21, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Last time I checked, this is a place for comments, even stupid ones like mine.

Posted by LH_805 on July 21, 2008 at 10:15 a.m.

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Posted by jjp009 on July 21, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

LH_805: I am not sure you even know how to read or if you can't pick up subtle humor...or any humor at all, but you read my comments wrong and guess what? It was a JOKE! Put your switchblade back in your pocket, amigo, and go tag something. You're burning daylight.

Posted by hotwildflower on July 21, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am always disappointed when I just miss a removed comment! I feel like I missed out on something...

Regardless of who started and who did what at this wedding, the number one thing that was overlooked was their selfish behavior ruined what was supposed to be their happiest day. That is very sad!

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Camdad.i honestly could not tell you what is right and wrong with the police report and paper.I was not there.But all I am saying is that the paper only named 3 of many people at this party and not all people that WERE there are bad.This is a big well known family with lots of love for each other.They are respected in Ventura.I said I grew up in the Avenue not them so right there is another assumption on your part.I am glad you are proud of were you come from.so am I.

Posted by pjlove10 on July 21, 2008 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Camdad101, welcome senior. Let's get it on! jk..

Posted by swtnsassy on July 21, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BIGMAN I am sure there were security at this wedding it is required to have them at the KC and just about any other place when you have an event. BeaHappi the bartenders at the Knights are also very good and will stop "cut off" someone that has had too much. It was done at a recent wedding I was at.

Posted by LH_805 on July 21, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

well pjlove10 you can comment but stop with the smart remarks have respect for the bride and groom. Delfina was the aunt Joes mom. Alcohol was the problem and the bride ask to bartender to stop that was @ 9:30 they did alot of people came drunk already, and the cops had the wrong info because we saw the report There was no stabing what so ever the grooms Family and Brides family respect each other that it was not them that started, PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT INVITED they got kick out they notice them back in there and the Sercuty ask them to leave, The secury did a great job.

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That's what I'm sayin Junior.I am sure Hitler was a good kid too.(wink wink).Just trying to make light of the situation.Did not mean to pi$$ in anyone's cheerios.It was all fun in games til the family got involved.

Posted by swtnsassy on July 21, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

by the way Camdad101 when I got married several years ago we did not have any problems and yes we had family & friends that live on "the avenue" invited.

Posted by hotwildflower on July 21, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have never even heard of security at a wedding...I must be going to some boring weddings.

Posted by SUEBABY on July 21, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I've lived here a long time (35+ years) and up until recently, you never - I mean NEVER - saw this type of lowbrow violence. Hmmmmm, wonder what has changed recently, let me ponder?

Sorry folks, but if you don't want your particular ethnic, social, family or other group to be slammed and discrimated against... DON'T LIVE THE FREAKIN' CLICHE, and don't put up with others who do. Simple arithmetic, fa'Gawd's sake!!!

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

GOod question junior...care to elaborate Sue???

Posted by pjlove10 on July 21, 2008 at 11:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Uh ohh... Sue's in touble, lol.

Yeah, Sue.. EXPLAIN? Curious minds...

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hello has anyone seen SUE??? I feel like she thinks she has a good point...... PLEASE ENLIGHTEN us!!!!

Posted by pjlove10 on July 21, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sue? Uh.. Hello, Sue?

Posted by Brownpride on July 21, 2008 at 11:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Odalay Santa Paula! They probably made more babies that night to back them up at weddings.

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think she sensed the sharks circling.FYI people if you are gonna make comments like this:

I've lived here a long time (35+ years) and up until recently, you never - I mean NEVER - saw this type of lowbrow violence. Hmmmmm, wonder what has changed recently, let me ponder?

Sorry folks, but if you don't want your particular ethnic, social, family or other group to be slammed and discrimated against... DON'T LIVE THE FREAKIN' CLICHE, and don't put up with others who do. Simple arithmetic, fa'Gawd's sake!!!

Please stick are to splain yourself to us under educated Mehican's.......

Posted by mac_tire_224 on July 21, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh great, another day I hit the refresh button more that I get work done. Good times!!!

Posted by pjlove10 on July 21, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Peggy Sue... Peggy Sue"

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

excuse me...please stick around to splain yourself

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am soo not getting much work done today myself.......why work when you can keep yourself updated on very important current events.

Posted by dc_n_vta on July 21, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How sad!!! This headline actually made it on the foxnews.com site!!!

Posted by spyhard1234 on July 21, 2008 at 12:02 p.m.

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Posted by jamaro099 on July 21, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Now I'm really upset....I went to a wedding this weekend where almost everyone in attendance was Hispanic, lots of alcohol(I know I was pretty loaded) was served, people got a little loud...but no fight?!? Not even an argument because someone's uncle was dancing with someone else's wife. I guess the Mexicans I hang around with are pretty boring.

Posted by Star7 on July 21, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ca4ever after reading all the comments. Do you still think I'm crazy?

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Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brown trash????? Not necessary.

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on July 21, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you SUE, there are so many brainless idiots on here, it makes my head hurt.

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well you know the whole bad apple saying applies to all ethnicities.

Posted by Comments on July 21, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I feel so sorry for the bride and groom. What an awful thing to have happen at your wedding. It will color their memories forever and if they were having a honeymoon, I'm sure it put a damper on that. I'd be so angry at my family/guests if I were them.

I'm sure alcohol is definitely a contributing factor, but I don't see it as an excuse. So many people use it as an excuse and that's just old and tiresome. If you're the kind of person who will take out a knife (or a broken bottle) and use it to inflict injury on someone you're that kind of person sober or drunk. Just a bad egg. Yes, alcohol does exacerbate many situations and makes folks feel braver and angrier than they might otherwise, but I'm not ready to ban alcohol from events. I've been to many, many weddings and celebrations where there were open bars and there were no fights. I've never heard of such a thing. And, this is the 1st time I've ever heard of security guards being the norm at weddings. Sorry, not in my little world. If I were invited to a wedding and heard there would be security guards there that would be my 1st clue that this is probably not a crowd I'd want to hang with.

Maybe the bride and groom should consider a bit of distance from their families. A cross country move was the best thing for my relationship with my family :).

Posted by sugaNspice on July 21, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on July 21, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you SUE, there are so many brainless idiots on here, it makes my head hurt."

Livin- truer words were never spoken, especially in regards to ignorant people who say such things as "brown trash".

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As Don King would say...."Onlya in Amurica!"

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you Suga!!!(applause in background) I could not have said it better myself:)

Posted by sugaNspice on July 21, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks shuldbworkin (takes a bow).

I'm new to the neighborhood and had to join in on the shenanigans ;)

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sooo. An Italian,a mexican an a horse walk into a bar......

Posted by lilmamma on July 21, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They should publish a picture of the bride's face as the brawl broke out. That would be priceless. If you cant handle your alcohol then you should not be drinking!! This wedding was more of WWE fight than a celebration of love and happiness. I give this marriage 2 years because the family will definetly be a factor in the divorce.

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I thought you might have junior.lilmama:

The fight was not start by the grooms Family Or the Bride's Family, it was people that were not invited to the party. So the paper and the officers gave the wrong info, Its still not right what happen but it happen, common who doesen't get drunk and get loud theire is always someone that acts stupid, There always people that come to partys that are not invited some people just mess up I guess. What happen happen already but the story is not right it was not that bad like they make it seem. So people stop with the commements even though Some one will still say somthing negative. But the party was great! before all that happen.

This was posted by someone who was at the party.
FYI the bride an groom have been together for like 5 years plus...They are just like all us other mexicans...we like to live in sin until we feel like getting married

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 2:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VATOS LOCOS FOREEEVER!!!!

Posted by sugaNspice on July 21, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL Junior!! Hey, we just want our kids to be old enough to walk down the aisle as our ring bearer and flower girl!

Posted by MADJACKEL on July 21, 2008 at 2:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

this reminds me of the jack-n-the-box commercial.
"It'll never last"

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I just want my kid to be old enough to buy me my first shot when I take the plunge.....

j/k I've been married to my baby's daddy for a like a month...my baby is 18 yrs old...hahaha
no for real I liked living in sin....kept it more exciting that way.

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Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's why we have kids you know.Us lazy Chicanos like to pop the kids out,collect the welfare checks...do the food stamp shuffle ,buy booze and have our kids for welfare increases and
a live in babysitting/maid service.

Posted by flmrmom on July 21, 2008 at 3:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"La primera lives!"
junior...You are too funny!!LMAO!!! I always look for your comments because you are hilarious!!

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on July 21, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So now I am REALLY confused.....there are multiple comments referring to white trash.....but the PERPS are known to be NOT WHITE. SO why are they calling these people of latin decent white trash? And why was my comment removed? I was just asking about another commentors comment.

and ShuldB can get away this crap:

"Us lazy Chicanos like to pop the kids out,collect the welfare checks...do the food stamp shuffle ,buy booze and have our kids for welfare increases and
a live in babysitting/maid service."

What about this VERY RACIST COMMENT:

When you mix Italians and Mexicans...Whao

Posted by MADJACKEL on July 21, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"IT's OVER WHEN IS SAY IT"S OVER!!!" jack-n-the-box

Posted by flmrmom on July 21, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'll keep you in mind!! This forum would be so boring w/out you!

Posted by MADJACKEL on July 21, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"IT'S OVER WHEN I SAY IT'S OVER" jack-n-the-box

Posted by Face on July 21, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Viva La Rasa!

Posted by flmrmom on July 21, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Real Men" blush :) haha

Posted by MADJACKEL on July 21, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Right on junior!!

Posted by sugaNspice on July 21, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Livin- I believe that was one individual that made the "white trash" comment and you fired back with "sounds like brown trash to me." (Your comment was removed because that IS racist). If you have beef with who said the comment, address them, not an entire ethnicity.

From the sounds of it, ShuldB is Latino and was using satirical humor, playing on the stereotypes of his/her own race.

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AAAAHHH livin...don't cry I am only mocking closed minded people...did I strike a cord with you?

Posted by sparks240 on July 21, 2008 at 4:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

At least the bride and groom didn't get tossed in the slammer. I've seen that before.

Posted by lilmamma on July 21, 2008 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Both families need to go to REHAB asap!! This story has humiliated the wonderful of city of oxnard.

Posted by readerone1 on July 21, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Poor bride & groom to spend all the $$ and have a big fight for an ending. Id divorce those friends and/or family ASAP.

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lilmama...learn how to read
this party was in Ventura!!!
sounds like you need to get hooked on phonics

Posted by opns on July 21, 2008 at 5:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Little young bride, take heed and pack it up and run quickly. Take your husband - of course if his mommy lets him. But watch your back. Sounds like some mean nasty people.
Good Luck and best endeavers. Your choice now. The community has obviously warned you.

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on July 21, 2008 at 5:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sugaNspice

Do you know me.....my ethnicity?!?!

so shuldbworkin805 is the only person on here that is allowed to make racist comments, uh no matter what race you are, what shuldbworkin805 said was stereo typing Hispanics, oh so since shuldbworkin805 "appears" to be Hispanic, because of what they said it is okay?

So I AM HISPANIC, and I can say what I choose.

shuldbworkin805
Like I said before I am not keen on ignorant people, I am racist against stupid people.

Oh, did I strike a cord? What a stupid thing to say.

Posted by IfYouSaySo on July 21, 2008 at 5:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

was listening to the radio while working today, half paying attention...thought I heard Hells Angels invoved somehow. Anyone hear this?

Posted by jamaro099 on July 21, 2008 at 5:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Livin---did you know that according to official census, Latinos/Hispanics are considered white? (GASP)?!?

If you ever fill out the demographic section of a questionnaire you'll see white -non-hispanic, white - hispanic.

I was shocked when I saw my birth certificate and it said caucasian.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think the separation happened when Latinos were fighting for the right to attend the same schools as white kids in California. The argument is that by definition we were white too.

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on July 21, 2008 at 5:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh no please don't tell me I am WHITE now! Gaud forbid!

Most of the people I know that make a big deal out of the color of there skin, are not WHITE!

We are HUMANS, get OVER IT!

Posted by BIGMAN on July 21, 2008 at 6:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't understand? all i said is that someone should have knocked out some more of Delfina's teeth and the guys arrested .. MAX,TORRO,and the guy from S.P should grow up and my comment was removed? we have people on here making racist comments and such and all their comments are still up? wtf? I would love to know who removes these comments and if they have the right to remove them without our permission? Don't we have the freedom of speech? the worst thing i said was about her teeth? and it was just a joke because if you knew her you would know she don't have any.. lol IDK? All I know is this woman is trash her son is trash and Max and those "homies" are truly stupid for their actions knowing what they face given their history but they deserve what they get. I think we should have the right to say what we know and feel on these forums and the STAR staff should not be allowed to pick and choose what comments "THEY" think are exceptable or unexceptable! Those of you who feel the same should make a phone call to the STAR and complain! I am.

Posted by opns on July 21, 2008 at 6:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Bigman, I read the removed post – such violent remark! Question, were you the stabber? Are you just coming back to the crime screne so you can see yourself? Could it be that the Star is just protecting you from your loose tongue? Maybe you should give them thanks. Back to your point, yeah she dosen’t have teeth, I was acquainted with her and yeah, 40 years later, reading the paper not much has changed.
We don’t want to see a change in venue if this goes to court. This is becoming high profile.
I posted earlier, but now what I'm hearing from others here, is that the groom is just as much messed up. That little young bride ought to find herself a real good family, unless she's a part of the mix.

Posted by packers4life on July 21, 2008 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No one knows the real story and the paper and the cops are giving bad info to everyone. I must agree with LH 805 and say that people are taking this way out of proportion and i would just like to say give the groom and the bride some privacy in this time. It's messed up the way things happened but they did. Maybe there could have been things done differently. Everyone was having a great time until one fight broke out and led to chaos. So don't be so judgmental on the family with out knowing the facts of that evening. We just wish the bride and groom happiness for the future.

Posted by ReconByFire on July 21, 2008 at 7:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WE ALL agree this is a very unfortunate incident, one that marred what should have been a special day for the newlyweds. A few posters claim to have witnessed the fight, and stated the trouble was caused by outsiders crashing the reception. From my experience, it's entirely plausible that outsiders caused the ruckus, family members and guests intervened, and the fight was on.
HAS ANYONE else noticed that party crashers are to blame for several violent incidents recently, including murders of young men in Moorpark and Camarillo? The Star reported that in both cases, undesirables crashed a party and started a fight, and the victims were killed while coming to the aid of a friend who was being attacked. I think we'll learn that crashing parties and inciting trouble is yet another way for these pukes to display their machismo and earn rank in their gang.
OBVIOUSLY, life is much different than the days when my friends and I would go out weekends, from one party to another, boozing it up the whole way. Most times we were allowed in because of a casual acquaintance. The fact that we didn't look like troublemakers must have helped, too. We weren't angels, nor were many of the other partygoers, but I don't recall much trouble, either. After all, everyone took pride in being M-E-L-L-O-W.
NOWADAYS, as a parent of teenagers, I wouldn't allow them to host a gathering in our home unless I know the invitees. I'd also station a responsible person at the door to bar anyone not invited from entering. No alcohol either. At the first sign of trouble inside or out, I'd call in the police to shut it down, and to chase off the crashers. The kids haven't asked to host a party given these conditions.
I REMIND my kids to be vigilant at the gatherings they attend. At any sign of trouble - nasty looks, even - they're to get to hell out of there, before the shooting starts. Fortunately, there aren't many big parties for kids to attend anymore.
AS FOR policing wedding receptions such as the one we're commenting on, what's next - tickets and picture badges for the invited guests? How else can partyholders assure the security of their guests, control people who drink too much or arrive drunk, protect property, etc. from troubles instigated by party crashers?
IN THIS CASE, I bet the city of Ventura bills the Knights of Columbus for the time of the 15 police officers needed to break up the gathering. Additionally, the hosts will probably forfeit the hall security deposit and will be billed for any damages, and the ABC will review the Knights' liquor license, among other arbitrary reactions.
GIVEN the tragic results of other recent parties, it's fortunate the legacy of this bash seems to be limited to a few minor injuries, slammer time for those arrested, bad memories for the newlyweds, and probably hazy recollections and major-league hangovers for many others.

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 21, 2008 at 8:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

livin..you're right I was sterotyping.All in fun.I see these posts going on daily were people actually believe what I posted.I am sorry you can't take a joke.What I posted was ignorant ..it was intented to be that way.If I truly believed those things,that WOULD make me ignorant.I am a very intelligent person with a sense of humor...which is obviosly something you LACK!!!!

Posted by sugaNspice on July 21, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Livin- ummm....I never indicated that I knew you or your ethnicity.

It's not up to me to decided who should or shouldn't make racist comments, I would think (actually wish) people have enough common sense to NOT make a racist remark in the 1st place. In my opinion, ShuldB was making a JOKE, your "brown trash" comment didn't sound like a joke to me. My bad if I'm wrong, but I've never heard my Hispanic friends call me "brown trash."

That's great you're Hispanic, join the club. Of course you can say whatever you choose, no one's stopping you...that's the beauty of your 1st amendment right and this forum--just as I can say whatever I'd like as well.

BTW, YOU asked for some clarification because you were "confused"....

Posted by Amalia805 on July 21, 2008 at 9:25 p.m.

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Posted by jill on July 21, 2008 at 10:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"It's just making us famous" lol

Posted by half_and_half on July 21, 2008 at 10:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oh heyall nah! Amalia, you couldve lied and said "first off, yeah we are peruvians" or something! damn! whats wrong with my people??

as i'm reading the comment I can hear Jay-Z's song "Talking out of her neck, making the finger snap" lol.

We're all joking so relax Amalia.

Posted by juanida55 on July 21, 2008 at 10:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Now that's what I call a shotgun wedding!!

Posted by 805m0mma on July 21, 2008 at 10:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lmao! i love it! "keep on talking it's just making us famous!" any relation to the mata sisters? too bad this is not going to be read by all the SHARKS that were "discussing" this story earlier, i'd grab a cup of coffee and keep hitting refresh!!

Posted by whiskeypete on July 21, 2008 at 11:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This gets better and better. LOL. You just can't make this stuff up.

Posted by lilmamma on July 21, 2008 at 11:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lmao@805momma too funny...were there any matas at the wedding?? hahahaha. I hope someone paid the bride and groom back because this is humilating and embarrassing. I recommend kool aid at weddings for now on at weddings. No one gets shanked and arrested when the only drink available is punch or soda.

Posted by packers4life on July 22, 2008 at 3:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You people are too funny everyone opens there mouth with an opinion with out knowing sh**!!! This is funny because you people are saying stuff about my family what if it was yours?? The cops did not do there job and either did the star by putting false information. Anyways you should all close your mouths until you know what your talking about!!!!

Posted by live_for_purpose on July 22, 2008 at 5:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

White Trash, Brown Trash....it's all still Trash....Trash is as Trash does.

Alcohol causes a lot of problems in our society, doesn't it?

Posted by pjlove10 on July 22, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay, okay. I'm seriously going to give this story the benefit of the doubt here. I thought long and hard about it. So, when do we expect the truth about what really happened to come out? Amalia805, when you say things like "keep on talking it's just making us famous!" it kind of feeds into what people are commenting about. I'm sure there is a different point of view from the people that were "actually" there. But you have to realize that people do believe what they see and read in the media, and it's makes it even worse because this is truly something you only hear/read about at the end of the news hour for comic relief.

Take care.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on July 22, 2008 at 7:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So the mother of the groom isn't really the mother of the groom ... but the real mother of the groom won't tell the police what relationship the originally reported mother of the groom is to the groom, er, something like that. It's a real challenge to navigate the apellido jungle. And the fight? It is obviously the fault of the police.

Posted by TellMe805 on July 22, 2008 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok so what happened to the days of when invitations were required and the amount of people allowed to attend a recepition appeared on the invite and the security was to make sure that number of people on the invite got in and the people not invited were not allowed in..
But some of these comments are too much haha

Posted by jill on July 22, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"It was a JOKE! Put your switchblade back in your pocket, amigo, and go tag something. You're burning daylight."

jjp009 - Hilarious. You should do stand-up. Your posts crack me up.

Posted by MADJACKEL on July 22, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"IT'S NOT OVER TILL I SAY IT'S OVER" jack-n-the-box

Posted by ca4ever on July 22, 2008 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

packers4life - so now it is the cops fault? You crack me up. stop blaming and start taking responsibility

Posted by packers4life on July 22, 2008 at 6:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ca4ever: you have no idea what i said do you ??? cause i said they did not do there job as far as going in to the hall and hitting people with there batons. Now is that justice or is that the cops having to much control over us you be the judge. Like i said no one would be saying to much if this were your family. Now i am just going to sit back and watch the comments roll in and see how many people comment on something they know nothing about!!!

Posted by 805m0mma on July 22, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

packers4life-sit back allll you want..if you keep posting then your going to keep getting jumped on...I wasn't there (thank god) but if this WAS my familia living la vida loca, I'd be laughing at all the posts because it sounds like something out of a movie...

Posted by crazymind20082009 on July 23, 2008 at 12:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i feel bad for the grooms mother who got cut with a knife to her face.

Posted by packers4life on July 23, 2008 at 2:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nobody knows sh** here anyways, green bay packers we put the "G" in gangster. Everyone here is so stupid for putting there comments on here. If all you are going to do is talk sh** then don't say anything. So shut your mouths and stop talking about the family so to all you haters keep one hating!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by 805m0mma on July 23, 2008 at 7:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

so you want us to shut our mouths...but then you want us to keep (one) ON hating?? Which one is it?? make up your mind! I vote for "keep on hating"!

Posted by ca4ever on July 23, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

packers4life- "The cops did not do there job and either did the star by putting false information. Anyways you should all close your mouths until you know what your talking about!!!!" so now they used their battons and THAT is what the issue was. HELLO!!!! something had to have happened for them to even call the cops. So stop trying to defend all of these idiots and have them start taking responsibility for their actions for ONCE.
By the way it is THEIR job, not THERE, you cant even spell

Posted by packers4life on July 23, 2008 at 3:46 p.m.

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Posted by h2odog on July 23, 2008 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

805_beaner-
What does Odalay mean?
I always thought it was Orale?

Posted by jwdough on July 24, 2008 at 1:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow. CLASS-Y people! Classy. My wedding was so boring.

Posted by ca4ever on July 24, 2008 at 8:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

damn I did not get to read packers last comment before it was removed.

Posted by augusta427 on July 24, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is the funniest string of comments I have seen thus far. LMAO!

Posted by eguzie on July 24, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

packers4life...um...you are putting YOUR comments here and YOU'RE talking s*** too! so .... that also makes you STUPID =)
btw...this thread is hilarious

Posted by daze805 on July 25, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

myOpenyun:

I have never been to a "Spanish" wedding, nor have I ever been to Europe. Nor have I EVER attended a wedding with folks of latin/hispanic descent where someone has been hurt or killed. If that is the crowd that participates/attends/associates with the host then there might be an ugly situation develop, however; me and my family have been wise enough to avoid those types of crowds.

Your ridiculous generalizations are racist and need to be confronted. If that is your idea of "being real", then I agree it is "real" racism and "real" ignorance.

Posted by LH_805 on July 29, 2008 at 11:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dam you guys still talking about it, it's old news No one got stab there was no weapons involve. I was there I know what happen Don't you guys got something else to talk about then talk S***? and the lady that got hurt got punch and it's not the grooms mom.