Posted by eas on July 16, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

speeding not a good thing but i still do it in my WRX SUBARU WHAT A GREAT CAR!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by socalromans on July 16, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, he won't do THAT again.
Sympathy to whatever family he may have, but we all need to pick our spots to go fast and drive crazy. I guess he picked the wrong spot.

Posted by hotwildflower on July 16, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's a shame, but at 47, he should have known better. I am very sorry for the family's loss.

My husband rides and he rides too fast at times and he is taking his life into his own hands. I warn him all the time but even he still thinks at times that he is invincible.

Posted by shuldbworkin805 on July 16, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My hubby also rides. I like to think he is safe,but he is a BOY at times and I know he thinks he is invincible .My heart goes out this man's family who I am sure their worst fear has just come true.

Posted by hotwildflower on July 16, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

no...he rides fast, but has been riding for nearly 30 years (I am sure he loves that I point that out) so he is very cautious in that way.

Posted by SpiderWoman on July 16, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good point junior, not only does a rider with no regard for traffic laws risk his own life but that of others. Thankfully no innocent motorist was injured or worse.

Condolences to the family.

Posted by BeaHappi on July 16, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You have to be especially careful on those mountain roads, where gravel & rocks are often on the roads. It just takes a little bit to cause a spill...and if he was going fast chances are he was taking really tight turns.

I'm very sorry for his family too...

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on July 16, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hotwildflower- As does my husband. He has a street bike, and he tells me stories like "man, I was going like 100 down ventura road....blah blah blah" and I get so pissed. I'm like "You know what? You can kill yourself or others doing that you idiot!"
He crashed last year, thank god, only broke his shoulder and it was a solo crash, just turning a corner and dropped his bike. But you'd think that's enough to scare him and have him slow down. I think he should use his bike for leisure, not to commute, he thinks differently. We really do bump heads on this motorcycle subject. Time to grow up and slow down I tell him! Beleive it or not, he's getting better. :)

Prayers to this mans family, what a shame. Seems to have been prevented.

Posted by hotwildflower on July 16, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We were nearly hit by some woman in Santa Barbara about 14 years ago, scared the heck out of us...he hasn't let me ride with him since. I honestly don't miss it. Like above, with two kids and a mortgage, I don't need to be riding with him...

Posted by loquinus on July 16, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My Condolences to his Family, also. Such a sad thing to happen to anyone.

A really good friend of mine got a new bike a few months ago and has been going on rides on that road and tells me how he scraps his footpegs. I tell him he is such a nut. I'm really hoping he is just pulling my leg. But, yesterday when I heard that there was a bike down up on that road, I was worried. He keeps asking my husband and I(we both ride)to go for a ride with him on that road, I say no. The one thing about my husband is that he enjoys riding but he's not into all the fast riding. It just drives him nuts when people on bikes go flying by. Hopefully, those people will learn to slow down.
I do believe that with the price of gas, we're going to be seeing a lot more people on bikes. Hopefully both the riders and the cars will be watchful for each others.

Posted by stave1 on July 16, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I lost my hubby to a motorcycle ride 3.5 years ago. He too, had been riding for 35-40 years. He also, liked speed. I had not ridden with him for years as we have kids and a mortgage too. Course, after he died that was the end of the house and many other pleasures... I'm praying for the family...left behind.

Posted by kyliepoo007 on July 16, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

First off....the first two comments on this page are very rude. I feel so sorry for this man and his family. Read all these comments and wow I sure hope the family doesn't read them. How unfeeling, jugdemental people are. My prayers to the family members of this man. RIP

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on July 16, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Stave1

I'm so sorry for your loss. Your post gave me chills. That's my biggest fear, that's why I get so mad at him.......

Posted by caskier on July 16, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ladies, If your man won't change, buy life insurance.

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on July 16, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lol caskier - been there done that!

Posted by socalromans on July 16, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"First off....the first two comments on this page are very rude."

kyliepoo007 - JUST KEEPIN IT REAL, DUDE.

I just sold my bike 2 months ago and after riding for most of my life, I doubt if I will again.
With a wife, 2 kids and a taste for speed, I was takin WAY too many chances.
Talk about judgemental?
If you rode you'd recognize TRUTH when you see it.
Sometimes it's brutal, but it's still the truth.

Socalromans

Posted by curious_1 on July 16, 2008 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

These things do happen when one is not paying attention and by being in a hurry or trying to satisfy that "need for speed"
My hubby has been riding for many years. And he too tells me the stories of the people in a hurry to get across the road at the Von's shopping center on Telephone Road. Yes, It does scare me.
But honestly I know that he is a safe rider and that he is VERY aware of what is going on around him! The problem is not always the rider 9 times out of 10 it is the person driving the car that is not looking out for the riders!

My condolences to the family of the rider. May her rest in peace.

Posted by kyliepoo007 on July 16, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You might be keeping it real DUDE, but still rude and insensitive to the family that is going to possibly read this. This person was a human being, and as the article states, they are still looking into the cause of the crash. Just because there were witnessess that state he was speeding and crossed a double line, that does not determine why he crashed. Eiether way...by you keeping it "Real" is very hurtful to the family and friends of this man. Oh Im sorry this is just a place for opinions.....

Posted by kyliepoo007 on July 16, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would really like to know why the Star or any other newspaper for that matter allows people or gives the option to blog about sensitive things like this.....I know I wouldnt want anyone to blog about me or anyone else I know in the event of a death.....the horrible opinions people that state...as if the familys dont have enough grief to deal with

Posted by mesantia on July 16, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My brother USED to ride his motorcycle everywhere. When he wanted to ride fast, he went to a speedway or an area where you could race dirtbikes. He has passed on at 24 due to a drunk, not speed. The motorcyclers need to watch out for them as well.

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on July 16, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OMG! Someone with a heart and brain on here!!!!!

Way not to live the selfish heartless life i see others all around me do everyday vae4usc.

Maybe your "name" may have something to do with it. I couldnt imagine being able to attend USC and not have some kind of common sense.

Pretty much if you plan on riding and you have loved ones, be sure to make it clear to them that YOU LOVE RIDING MORE THAN THEM, and if anything ever happens, for them to be happy you died doing what you love.

Posted by bugmenot on July 16, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

my condolences to his family. rest in peace.

Posted by newladymom on July 16, 2008 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In response to (kyliepoo007) I am so glad you said what you did. This "man" is my best friends dear sweet uncle. I am hurting for his wonderful family left behind and I hope they find a way to get through this. I also hope his wife or daughter or sister don't read this for I know it will hurt dearly to have such rude people say such insensitive things about a man who just passed away. If they are reading this My heart goes out to you. I am so so sorry for your pain and loss. And i hope this helps others become aware of just how this can happen to you. So please be careful. Noone is invincible.

Posted by MartinezFamily on July 16, 2008 at 7:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am a friend of this person and he was always a safe driver on his bike. How dare anyone been mean to him and his family with some of these comments. I don't believe he was passing cars and driving wrecklessly. Have some respect for his family. My heart goes out to them in this there time of need. Also this is one of the kindest and sweetest man that ever walked the earth and it is a loss for all who knew him.

Posted by MaxMira on July 17, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I also knew Bob, and I agree with every word you said. He was one of the nicest men I have ever met in my life. His death is truly a tragic loss for this world. This is not the place to be debating what he should or should not have been doing. His family and friends are obviously reading this article. If you don't have condolences to express, you should keep your opinion to yourself out of respect for the loss this family is suffering.

Posted by dom_kenpo on July 17, 2008 at 5:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Probably said best by Sir Anthony Hopkins, in the movie, "The Worlds Fastest Indian"...."You are more alive in 1 minute on one of these bikes than many will be in their entire life."

Yeah, I ride. Yeah, I have been in an accident. Yeah, I still ride. It is the risk we take as being a biker.

God-speed with Bob and prayers and condolonces to his family. Tragic loss, no matter how it is sliced and diced.

Posted by richwineanna on July 17, 2008 at 6:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First off I have to say that my Uncle Bob was one of the most beautiful people that I know I will ever meet in this lifetime. Next, I love his daughter (my cousin) and his wife more then words can say and I am so sorry for their loss. Bob was my mom's brother and he will be missed dearly by our entire family. I don't think that anything else really matters at this point. I love you Uncle Bob may you rest in peace.

Posted by GitRdone on July 18, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

RICHWINEANNA, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES TO YOU & YOUR FAMILY, MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU AS YOU GRIEVE FOR YOUR LOVED ONE. MAY YOUR UNCLE ROBERT REST IN PEACE.

Posted by vetteman42 on July 19, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My deepest condolences go out to all of Bob's family and friends. I worked with Bob for a number of years and never knew him to be anything other than a good man who will be sorely missed. I completly discount most of these comments from non-riders, motorcycle haters, and low time riders and I hope his family and friends can discount most of the opinions here as well. I know something bad happened to put Bob down. Bob did not have a careless or reckless bone in him. Sadly the story is not complete and comments here are made out of ignorance. He was kind, considerate, and fun loving, the one who went out of his way to help. May you rest in peace Bob and watch over your family.

Randy R

Posted by marsdog on July 20, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

First off, my deepest condolences. This event hits way too close to home as I'm good friends with Bob's sister and also motorcyclist who commutes down that very same canyon (Grimes Canyon) road on almost a daily basis. In fact I've even had a spill on probably the worst turn on Grimes. I like to think that the fact I was not hurt in any way had to do with the fact that I'm annoyingly careful on that and all roads (as I've been told). I know the turn described of Bob's accident very well and I have never thought of it as particularly challenging, but any curve has it's dangers. People here have focused on the witness accounts of crossing the double yellow, now not hearing that first hand, I can only say that may or may not be indicative of unsafe riding habits. Anyone who's ever ridden can tell you there are times that it is perfectly safe to do so. However, as a rule, I think of that double yellow as a wall. My only point is no one here truly knows how safe/unsafe a rider he was and god knows, there's wide range available there. In spite of this, from what I've read, since they describe a newish 2007 Harley, that he was likely not as familiar as he should be with this heavy bike (maybe not), went into that turn too fast, and likely did what every motorcyclist knows not to do, but instinct tells us otherwise and that is to hit the brakes in mid turn. The fact that he was found on the left side of the road indicates to me he "high-sided" over the left side of the bike as result of possibly braking in the curve.
Again, my only point is to indicate that this was an accident. Not a suicidal nut tearing up the pavement, but rather a good man, probably too confident and making some costly mistakes. Whether we drive or ride, we all make mistakes, be it braking in a curve, dialing a cell phone or intimidating the driver in front, so we all can all take a breath, slow down and hopefully learn from Bob's tragic loss.
Again my condolences to all his family.