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Prosecution may seek death penalty; arraignment is scheduled for Oct. 3


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With his arms and legs shackled amid tight security, the 22-year-old man accused of killing Oxnard businessman Gurmohinder Singh appeared in court Tuesday to hear the felony charges against him, which could land him on death row, a prosecutor said.

Jeffrey Aguilar of Oxnard is accused of shooting and robbing Singh outside an Oxnard bank Aug. 16 and then shooting at police on Saturday. He was arrested Monday in Carpinteria.

Aguilar, whose gang moniker is "Tripper," was brought into Ventura County Superior Court on Tuesday for his arraignment, but it was postponed until October.

Ventura County Superior Court Judge Kevin McGee set Aguilar's arraignment for Oct. 3 and also set a Sept. 23 hearing to determine what to do with misdemeanor cases pending against Aguilar.

Singh, 55, of Oxnard, was shot dead outside the US Bank at 2385 N. Oxnard Blvd.

Aguilar is being charged with murder and using a firearm during the commission of the murder, Senior Deputy District Attorney Cheryl Temple told reporters after the court proceeding.

Temple said the suspect also is charged with "a special circumstance that he committed murder during the course and commission of a robbery." The special circumstance could mean the death penalty against Aguilar if he is convicted of the capital-murder charges.

"Special circumstances means that Mr. Aguilar is eligible for the death penalty. This is a capital homicide case," said Temple. "Special circumstances carry with it the penalty of life without parole or the death penalty."

She said the decision of whether to seek the death penalty is ultimately made by District Attorney Greg Totten after reviewing the case, including past criminal background.

"I wouldn't expect a decision on that right away," she said.

In addition, there is a robbery charge and the use of a firearm in the commission of the robbery, said Temple.

There are also two counts of attempted murder against Aguilar as a result of gunfire with police on Saturday. Officers spotted Aguilar driving in Oxnard and tried to stop him. Authorities allege that Aguilar and the officers fired shots that hit each other's vehicles. Nobody was injured, police said.

Aguilar escaped but was captured about 8 a.m. Monday at the Holiday Inn Express in the 5600 block of Carpinteria Avenue, police said.

Aguilar surrendered without further incident, police said. No shots were fired, and no one was injured Monday, according to officials.

The prosecutor declined to comment on the misdemeanor cases pending against Aguilar. Court records, however, show that Aguilar was on probation for possessing a controlled substance on Jan. 5, 2005. Also, he had been charged with probation violation and disobeying the court-ordered Colonia Chiques gang injunction on Dec. 28, 2007.

Court records also show that Aguilar denied being a gang member when an officer served him with the gang injunction legal papers on April 2, 2007.

"I am not a gang member," Aguilar told the officer, according to court records.

Aguilar was convicted in 2007 of misdemeanor possession of false identification and has several traffic violations on his record, court documents show.

Aguilar is being represented by the county Public Defender's Office. After briefly talking to Aguilar, who stood inside a holding cage in the courtroom, attorney Donna Forry slipped him a card through the white bars of the metal cage shortly before the hearing began.

The card was put inside Aguilar's pocket by a sheriff's deputy because the shackles on Aguilar's arms wouldn't let him do it himself.

Temple told reporters that she couldn't discuss the details concerning the investigation or Aguilar's capture on Monday. She praised the work of the Oxnard Police Department, including Detective Michael Young, who was in court, along with representatives of other law enforcement agencies, saying they did "a phenomenal job."

Discussions

Posted by dcsfancy on August 27, 2008 at 5:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

he stayed at the Holiday Inn Express after he did the crime , shot at police. Dont you see it does work after spending time there he gave up without a fight as he learned he had no better choice.

Posted by ironwoman on August 27, 2008 at 5:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

His gang moniker is "tripper" yet he denies being a gang member. That's their usualy plea.

The death penalty would be great...if California utilized it. Currently, there is a proposal to renovate death row because the environment is not appropriate for these fine and outstanding prisoners. Some have their own websites as well, Scott Peterson, Richard Allen Davis and some of the other famous killers.

I hope this guy is charged with what he needs to be charged with and sentenced accordingly.

The majority of criminals don't have remorse for their victims and wouldn't know where to start even if you enlightened them about what empathy and remorse are.

And just imagine, if Tripper gets sick, he might be entitled to better healthcare than the rest of us. Sickening system, isn't it?

Posted by JeannetteMedrano on August 27, 2008 at 5:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Judgement day will come and he will have to answer for his sins!

Posted by AnnaWhaat on August 27, 2008 at 6 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I just wonder whose credit card he used to rent the room? Even paying with cash you need a credit card.......hmmmmmmmm

Posted by tweetybyrdrt on August 27, 2008 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

they need to stop acnoliging the "gang's" how about using this: Aguilar belongs to a group of murdering, theiving, drug dealing scum, instead that way the name wof the group in the news wont give them any more status

Posted by tweetybyrdrt on August 27, 2008 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sorry to early to spell.

Posted by keepin_it_real on August 27, 2008 at 7:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, a proposal to renovate death row. Hummm, just what I wanted my tax $$ to go go. What a joke !!! You are right, he will probably get better health care than our outstanding elderly and disabled and poor citizens. Unbelievable !!!

If they are on death row, get it over with already. Why house these loosers for years and years before they get the needle?

This guy seems like a great, outstanding citzen doesn't he? (sarcasm). If his lawyer is the same lawyer who defended her client in a case I was on jury for, he's a gonner. Because she was a real winner. I think she needed to go back to school. So there you go.

Posted by ecarson1958 on August 27, 2008 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

tweetybyrdrt; That's a good idea. It should be mandatory from now on that no name associated with any gang be mentioned, written, spoken in the public for ever. Instead it should be said that such and such claimed to be associated with other scumbags like himself. The criminals should only be referred as scumbag criminals. That way they can no longer identify themselves in the newspaper or T.V. "Look at us Meatman, we're in the newspaper. They're calling our gang name out." Instead he'll say, "Meatman you belong to the scumbag gang along with all the other criminals. I guess we're all scumbags huh?" That's right.

Posted by Scapegoat on August 27, 2008 at 7:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I wish the Star would investigate "Tripper" so we could understand what breeds this type of individual. Knowing some of the facts of his life would be helpful in discouraging his reproduction. Compare and contrast his families immigration story with that of his victim Mr. Singh. How is it that Mr. Singh had the vision to create jobs and wealth and "Tripper" created misery and death?

Posted by keepin_it_real on August 27, 2008 at 7:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

STAR,

I have a question. I tried to contact you on the contact us tab at the top of this page and I get an error message saying, default mail client not installed. It was to email you feedback. What do I need to do? Or is something wrong with it?

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on August 27, 2008 at 7:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Special circumstances means that Mr. Aguilar is eligible for the death penalty"

WOO HOO! Can we give him the death penalty just the way he gave Mr. Singh's his unprovoked death sentence?

"Tripper", you wuz straight trippn' ....heheh and you got caught mo fo!! Serves you right. Cant wait to see what this verdict is.

Posted by WarpKat on August 27, 2008 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"I am not a gang member."

Yet you have a gang name of "Tripper."

Ok. So let me get this straight - if gang members are so proud of being in gangs (by the showing of gang signs and tagging and videos/pictures showing the obvious) then why hide it in the face of justice?

Coward. Face the music.

Gang membership should be an automatic special circumstance leading to life in prison without parole.

Posted by ileen88 on August 27, 2008 at 7:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i knew this person personally.

and believe when i say it was a shock to hear about this because he was quiet and as you can see all that was on his record was violation of probation and gang injuction and some traffic tickets. and the whole "fake identification" thing is dumb because it was his friends i.d and that was it nothing else.

I just feel sorry for his kids Alex and Angelina =( they are the ones who really suffer and his girlfriend my best friends sister. =(

Posted by keepin_it_real on August 27, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ieleen88,
Are you saying it is ok what he did because he just had a few violations and he just used his friends id? And he was cited for being a known gang member. In all due respect, lets not forget he did shoot at police, put many people in danger and fear, and is suspected for shooting and murdering Mr. Sing.

I feel bad for his family too. Unfortunatly that is the sad part of this story.

Posted by tweetybyrdrt on August 27, 2008 at 7:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nO, IT IS THE FAMILY OF THE MAN HE MURDERED that suffers. His children have the chance now of being raised by a respectable family instead of a morally bankrupt father and I use the word father loosely

Posted by pjlove10 on August 27, 2008 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have always been against the death penalty, but for some reason I'd love to see this dood fry. He's a parasite, get rid of him.

Posted by getreal on August 27, 2008 at 7:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I do feel sorry that his kids, sorry they have such a loser for a father and no decent male figure to teach him right from wrong.

Posted by luv2sail on August 27, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ileen88, cry me a river. That is what he got caught for, certainly that is not all he did. It's hard to imagine going from running a red light to murder.

Posted by handyhood on August 27, 2008 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ileen88, it's always the quiet one's you have to worry about. Sorry about his kids, but they are better off not being raised by this animal. He should of thought about his kids before he pulled the trigger.
To everyone, if you want Totten to give this guy the axe, let him know his political career depends on it, thats the thing that Totten cares most about!

Posted by 6bucks on August 27, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He needs some Rogaine, and a brain.

Posted by cslaurie on August 27, 2008 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He is a poster boy for the death penalty. I think their should be an initiative that someone sentenced to death gets one automatic appeal not later than 90 days past his trial. Execution upon upheld conviction not later that 90 days after the appeal hearing. Today's punishment is like spanking your child twenty or thirty years after their misdeed.

Posted by keepin_it_real on August 27, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TWEETY=
Yes, you are absolutly right!!! Unfornutaly, both sides of the families of the criminal and the victim, I feel sorry for. Thank you.

Hopefully his kids will have a chance now he is out of the picture. I will be sad when they get older and they realize what kind of Dad they had.

Have a good day all. Hopefully when I get home there won't be all the personal discussions going on.

Posted by Rocket81 on August 27, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So this loser had kids too. Very sad, now we tax payers can take care of them as well. To bad OPD didnt kill him when they have the chance. Wasting all the time and money on all these scumb in the area. There has to be a better way to rid society of these people. Live in peace or dont live at all.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on August 27, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"I just feel sorry for his kids Alex and Angelina =( they are the ones who really suffer and his girlfriend my best friends sister. =("

ileen88, you have confirmed what I had posted earlier on. I had guessed that we'd learn this perp, as with most of his ilk, had a breeder in a stable to perpetuate his species. Even the 19 year old tagger who was recently gunned down on his front lawn had a child out of wedlock. I wonder who is supporting the girlfriend and kids??? How about our hard earned tax dollars???

As for false identification, I believe it should be a felony, period. I have seen too many innocent legal residents harmed because their identification had been stolen. I have no sympathy.

Posted by Comments on August 27, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ileen, I think you are more than a bit misguided and I agree with the poster who suggested you choose your friends more wisely. Whenever someone is accused of doing something so heinous there are always friends and relatives who seemed shocked by the behavior. However, I suspect if you were to review things in a more honest light you'd see that the capability for something like this was there. Anyone who is a member of a gang (and if you knew him so well then I'm sure you know he's a gang member) has the capacity for this type of violence. It's part of the gang credo.

You say, "all that was on his record was violation of probation and gang injuction and some traffic tickets." Are you kidding? That's all? Well that's enough for me. I'm in my 40s and I don't have a record, thank you very much. I've never been arrested. Indeed I have never received even a traffic violation. What was he on probabtion for? The fact that he had a record at all means that he wasn't leading a lawful existence. And, record or not he has been accused of doing something awful. I'll leave it up the jury to determine whether or not the evidence proves he killed this man, but I'm fairly sure it will.

And, yes I feel sorry for his kids. I'm not so sure I feel sorry for his girlfriend as she had to know what kind of person he was. Maybe his being sent away forever will be just what she needs to get her act together and get her life on the straight and narrow. That would be the best thing for her kids. Oops, I'm assuming they're her kids - maybe not. The family that's really suffering is the family who are relatives of Mr Singh. Those are the true sufferers. How about a little word of compassion for them?

Posted by noonespecial on August 27, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey ileen88 instead of feeling sorry for this guy, why don't you use his arrest to the benefit of his children. Tell your best friends sister to hook up with a real man. One that will teach her kids to respect themselves and others. One that will show them what it's like to be something other than a gang banging loser who kills innocent people.

Posted by Emmy on August 27, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

(cheering on the sidelines) DEATH ROW! DEATH ROW! I hope they give little Jeffy what he asked for.

Posted by getreal on August 27, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm for death row. I'm sick of using my taxes to pay for room and board of criminals. And a quick death row no 25 years full of appeals crap.

Posted by axel718 on August 27, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ileen88....you feel sorry for Alex and Angelina?? What about Mr Singh's family?? You new what a piece of crap Aguilar was and still is.....his prior criminal record does not reflect all the crimes he has committed...just the ones that he got caught for.....by the way using someone else's identity is a FELONY so it is not just a stupid mistake......thank god that he wont be around to teach his kids how to kill someone at an ATM. Too bad the cops didnt blow his head off when they had the chance.

Posted by getreal on August 27, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jr he was served with the gang injunction, thats not enough to say he was a gang member?

Posted by josess on August 27, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hear all you people talking about "my poor tax money going down the drain".
Think about it, if it wasn't for our tax money where would you think all these murderers,rapist etc. would be???????
In our COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!!
We will never know where all tax money really goes so stop bi@#$%ng about it.
And for aguilar i hope he gets what he deserves

Posted by 805grl on August 27, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ileen88 ... Its plain and simple he's a heartless druggie punk who took the life of an innocent man...no pity for him or his family! Im sure the family knew what he was all about...they cant relaly be in shock! He knew what he was going to do when shot this man and he should pay with his life.

Posted by 805grl on August 27, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hello juniormafia_ny ... your right. I have other names for him that I cannot post here.

Posted by daugtherofimmigrant on August 27, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"I am not a gang member" o.k. let's say you weren't but you are a murderer!!!

Posted by 101VTA805 on August 27, 2008 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

you say all he had on his record was traffic violations and false id well im sure there was plenty of other things that he didnt get caught for i agree with others are saying, any one that knew him knew what kind of person he was or is he is sitting in jail for premeditated murder which means he sat around and thought about what he was going to do it was planned out and thank god he was caught too bad another innocent person and the family has to suffer because he got greedy and wanted what someone else had if he wanted money so bad and was living a productive life then he should have gotten off his butt and away from the gang and got a j-o-b and earned his own money instead of stealing and shooting someone else who worked for it god forbid him to do the right thing it was so much easier doing it his way but oh wait he got caught and now is where he belongs and hopefully will stay there karma is a b----

Posted by bugmenot on August 27, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

imagine the homies on the streets calling out to eachother "ey dawg, wuts ur moniker?!"

Posted by N_Cash on August 27, 2008 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Camdad said: "Regardless of the verdict this state will not sack up and put his lights out, so either way he gets life." I am perfectly satisfied for Jeffrey Aguilar to receive the death penalty and then live out his days on Death Row. He'll spend his time sleeping, eating, and watching TV in a 6-by-8-foot cell, and exercising in a tiny segregated yard with walls so high that he'll never see anything but the sky. He'll be strip-searched and handcuffed before leaving his cell and again before returning. The horror of life on Death Row will be his life. Hopefully he'll be executed but in the meantime he'll die a slow, agonizing death in his cell. I see that ileen88, one of Tripper's excuse makers, supporters and defenders has shown up to tell us what a nice, kind, quiet lad he is, and how we should feel sorry for him and his family. Thanks for the laugh, ileen88.

Posted by getreal on August 27, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Like in Turkey!

Posted by rebel123 on August 27, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't read ileen88's post as defending him. I read it as being shocked by what he did and feeling badly for his children. Read it again, folks. There's nothing in her post that indicates she's making excuses for him or down playing anything. She's shocked because his priors were not of a violent nature. Shocked. That doesn't translate to defending him.

Posted by 101VTA805 on August 27, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

giving him life in prison would be to easy because he can have almost all of the things he gets on the street in there also he gets visits from famiy and if your married you get the conjugal visits you get food that you want tvs radios pictures phone time drugs you get it all so lets not waist time leaving him in prison for the rest of his life he gave the victim the death penalty so he in return should get the same lets not waist years just get it over with the sooner the better

Posted by dgreene on August 27, 2008 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The death penalty is a joke. If he does get the death penalty, it won't be carried out until 20 years from now. Did you know they STERILIZE your arm before they give you a LETHAL injection? So it won't get infected.. What they should do is bring back death by firing squad..

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Regardless of the verdict this state will not sack up and put his lights out, so either way he gets life."

Camdad...exactly. My husband and I watched this on the news last night and had that very conversation. A death penalty sentence in California just means that you serve a life sentence on death row.

"I am not a gang member" - no one's a gang member when they get caught. I wonder if he's on any of these YouTube videos that the Chiques crank out.

I wonder if Tripper got his free breakfast at the Holiday Inn before he was arrested?

Posted by TiquisiaPrincess on August 27, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's terrible what he did. It's a tragedy and the victims family is my ultimate worry. They will have to go through a lot. It's sad to realize that at this point, the murderer will have more rights then they do as survivors. My prayers are with them. Murder is Never acceptable.

I do feel though for the murderer's kids. They're not at fault for what the father did. It will not be easy being the child of a murderer and the stero type that will come with it. I hope that they learn from their fathers criminal acts and walk the right path. Like I said, they are not at fault, for what he did.

I've never agreed that families of murderers are automatically at fault. Sometimes people just turn mean and evil no matter their up bringing. So we can't blame his upbringing right away. We don't know what it was. But it's definetly no his childrens fault.

I do not believe in the death penalty. I think it's an easy way out especially in California were they have TV's in their cells, they can get married etc. I think the death penality is just a waste of money. Personally, they should just give life sentences and have him with the regular inmate population. He needs to live a long life, so he will always realize what he did.

If he becomes a Christian or converts, you may think that with time he'll ask God to forgive him for what he did and be forgiven, but he'll always have to live with the fact that he took an innocents life. That alone will make his existence unbearable if he truly asks God to forgive him.

If he doesn't, then he'll live in a living hell for the rest of his life in prison. Not in death row were life, is way to easy for inmates. If you do the crime, then be ready to pay for it. That for me is Justice.

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jeffrey is a poster child for mandatory sterilization.

I feel for his kids because they didn't ask to be born into this gang-banging world and now they'll be visiting their daddy in prison for the rest of his life.

Hopefully the girlfriend won't hook up with another gang-banger and will take this as a wake-up call to do whatever she can to ensure that her kids have better, crime-free lives.

Does anyone know statistics about generational gangs? In other words, what is the probability that Jeffrey's kids will become gang-bangers too?

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

high_society...in gangland "Tripper" was probably quite the catch. And that's the real problem...the way these guys are glorified within their social groups.

Posted by oxnardgirl on August 27, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok i'm not here to defend the action of Jeffrey Aguilar. What he did was horific! I feel he should pay the price for his actions, even if it means the death penalty! I thought I knew this young man but was very wrong. He came from a good family that did there best at raising this young man who was filled with lots of hate since a young age, you could see it in his eyes. Yes he had both parents, no he was not beat by his father, but I guess this is the path that he ultimetly wanted, and unfortunely others have to pay for the consequences of his actions.
Jeffrey does leave two young children behind as well as there mother. But those children will be FINE they are better off without his negative influnece in their lives. Your tax dollars are not going to be spent on there upbringing. There mother has provided for them since day 1 and will continue doing the same without him! So stop thinking b/c their father is a criminal they will turn out just like him.

Posted by brwnbear on August 27, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm sure they have proof that it was him that did the killing, they might have some good evidence on him to give him the death penalty. If he deserves it why argue.si se lo merece ni para que discutir.

Posted by lilmamma on August 27, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tripper doesn't deserve a pity party.He was brutal and ruthless for killing Mr.Singh that way.These trials always talk about the defendant but what about the victim. Victim's have right too.

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

oxnardgirl...thanks for posting and I'm glad that his kids will be raised without the bad influences.

Statistically though, I'd say that kids of gang-bangers are much more likely to become bangers themselves, as compared to other (non-gang) kids.

lilmamma - you are so right. What about Mr. Singh and his family? They are the victims, not this piece of garbage. I hope they are at peace knowing that Jeffrey is off the streets.

Posted by missing805 on August 27, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Although I feel for his kids, we can imaghine the kind of woman that would concider this guy as a boyfriend or husband. The girl probably does not make wise choices, since she made the choice to associate with this low life. All I can say is we got 2 "bright" future leaders of america in our hands. Girls keep having kids with these m0rons because they think they are cute and hard and tough.

Posted by oxnardgirl on August 27, 2008 at 11:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Beahappi:
I agree without Jeffrey in his son's life that is one less banger on our streets in the future!

Posted by PonceMom on August 27, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If he gets the death penalty, send him to Texas. We are swift down here about applying it.

Posted by oxnardgirl on August 27, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"high_society"

"We need to see who this mother is, and if she has a criminal record, send social services after her. Someone needs to step in to see if she has willingly put her children at risk."

What does it matter to you who the mother is? Think about it for a minute, if the police had know it was aguilar (remeber there was an investigation going on) don't you think they looked into his family, who he lived with if he had children, is were abouts afer the killing. Come on know she was smarter than that and has not being living with this scum. Yes she made the mistake of having not one but two children with him, she was young and learned by raising those two alone! She isn't ask for your assistance but is working her behind off to support herself and them!

Posted by MontanaMoon on August 27, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Burn......Tripper.......BURN!!!

Posted by 805grl on August 27, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oxnardgirl ...your right his kids are better off without him....good luck to the woman who had his kids. If she has supported them on her own, then hats off to her!

Posted by TiquisiaPrincess on August 27, 2008 at 12:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

high_society...you always amaze me at some of your comments...i mean really, grow up! I believe a comment here says that they have a good mother. So she made a mistake in her past, maybe when she met him he was an okay guy. Who knows. You or I didn't serve as her mattress. Leave it at that. I don't see her asking you for any help. And you don't know if she's asking anyone else, so leave her alone. I don't know her, never met her...but even I think your comment is uncalled for. I wish the kids the best. They are going to suffer no matter what because of what their father did, they don't need negative feed back or assumptions from other individuals.

oxnardgirl -
Don't take what high_society says to heart. Sometimes I think she has nothing better to do then just make negative comments on a page. If you know this young woman, wish her well and give her emtional and mental support. Her children will need it. They're also victims, just different types. They are not to blame for their fathers criminal acts. Yet, they will grow up with this stereo type.

LETS FOCUS! There was a tragedy here. A man's life was stolen and his family is suffering. Let's focus on the act at hand. What we need to do is come together as a community and start fighting for victims rights. Criminals have more rights then their victims.

Posted by oxnardgirl on August 27, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TiquisiaPrincess thanks I was thinking the same thing!

Posted by danp on August 27, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Like Jack Tripper?

Posted by cmarquez on August 27, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hardly do i ever comment on here, but i have to say, yes, give him the death penalty, and yes, the wife or girlfriend needs to take preventive measures. high society is right. prevention is the only way to make sure these kids dont get involved. there is nothing wrong with prevention. there is nothing negative about that comment. she gave two "what ifs." if she has a record, send social services, if not, help her raise her kids. there is nothing wrong with that.

Posted by TiquisiaPrincess on August 27, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

" This is the problem with society-

You guys refuse to see that it is a problem."

High_Society it's people like you that are part of the problem and not the solution. I'm a single parent, have been for most of my childs life. My daughter lacks for nothing. I'm bringing her up right 100%. Showing her everything she needs to know to ensure she knows right from wrong. However, that doesn't assure me that when she walks out my door, she will continue to think that way.

You're right...SOCIETY needs to assist. As a community we need to help be part of the solution not the problem.

I don't look the other way. I'm very involved in my community. I'm very invovled in victims rights. That's why I know that no matter how much you try, sometimes...your kids do wrong. Many times, more than not...it's not the upbringing just their enviroment in the streets, in the schools in the world. So if we as a community do our part, maybe we can help.

Let's give this young woman the opportunity with her kids she needs. Already, they'll be raised in a stero type enviorment with people like you. Hopefully, that want influence their life. I'm sure their mother, will do everything to raise them right.

If there mother is reading this and is out there...If she's out there, don't give up...keep your head high. Your kids are not to blame, only the murderer here is to blame!

LET'S KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. FIGHT FOR VICTIMS RIGHTS!

Posted by oxnardgirl on August 27, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"high_society on August 27, 2008 at 12:21

This is the problem with society-

You guys refuse to see that it is a problem.

Thanks for looking the other way. Libs love you for it."

Are you sure this is the problem with society?
How about the fact that you chose to focus on the children of a criminal instead of the criminal. Shouldn't we focus on Jeffrey right now? You're implying because Jeffrey is a criminal and the mother of his children work to provide for them that they, the children are going to be criminals when they grow up. I'm sorry but NO they will not! I can not predict the future, but i'm sure will do everything in her power to see that her kids do not follow in there fathers footsteps, as I already said she and the children did not live with him.

Now lets focus on seeing Jeffrey paying for his actions!

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The more positive support for kids, the better. I think that my husband and I do a very good job of raising our kids. We're not perfect, but we put their needs above all else, set boundaries, and above all we love them to death.

However, they get many things from other family members. One grandmother is adventurous, another is creative and into crafts. Hiking, horse-back riding, ceramic painting, walks on the beach, sleep-overs, football with their cousins...

Not only that but we have great friends and neighbors who our children interact with and learn from.

It does take a village to raise a child. And it's not because all parents are deadbeat. It's because raising good, productive citizens takes hard work and effort and love and patience and time.

So whoever is reading this that knows Jeffrey's kids, put your money where your mouth is and be a positive influence in their lives. Trust me, although their mom is hardworking, she could use the assistance and support.

Posted by DrcGrl on August 27, 2008 at 12:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

high-society-I completely agree with you. If a persons morals and standards are that low that they are involved in a relationship with a thug AND have children with them, that person must have issues themselves. Issues big or small, she needs help. Those kids don't need to be around that type of lifestyle or they will end up like daddy.

Posted by oxnardgirl on August 27, 2008 at 12:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Beahappi
So whoever is reading this that knows Jeffrey's kids, put your money where your mouth is and be a positive influence in their lives. Trust me, although their mom is hardworking, she could use the assistance and support."

Believe me I woudn't be saying anyhting if i wasn't already helping her out. She has a village/ family helping her. My husband plays ball with Alex and my son. Angelina plays dress up with her cousins. They regularly go to church and have a set bedtime. They have a normal life even without there scummy father!

Posted by TiquisiaPrincess on August 27, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's about us not wanting to bring some sort of focus on the future of these children, i think it's trying to help them lead a positive life even with the set-back of their father in prison for a horrendous crime.

We act like their mother may have a choice, yet you forget no matter how much we try. Her only solution would be to move far away so that her children are not touched by their fathers murderous action. Because unfortunetly, he's still their father..and the laws. Esepcially here in Ventura County, don't automatically say. YOU KILLED..you can't see your children. She may have no choice if he demands to still have visitations in jail. It happens all over the USA.

This young woman needs positive comments. We don't know her, yet we're discussing her like we do. She may have all the mentor and moral support around her. She may have it around her children too. We don't know the age of these kids.

Give her a chance. It sounds like oxnardgirl knows her, so by the sound of it. She's being a good influential mom. Unless you know different. Leave her alone.

Right now, focus on this criminal. Who killed an innocent man. Focus on him getting life in prison so he'll never see the light of day. Focus on ensuring he'll forever regret what he did. Focus on the family he destroyed, by stealing the life of their father, husband and family member. They have no rights. Jeffrey has more rights then they do. Let's focus on the facts. The murderer!

Posted by oxnardgirl on August 27, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

high_society
One of my main concerns is focusing on the children. That's why I am part of the village that is helping to raise them.

Posted by oxnardgirl on August 27, 2008 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Posted by high_society on August 27, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oxnardgirl

"Believe me I woudn't be saying anyhting if i wasn't already helping her out."

You are doing what I was saying. So what's the problem, then?

I think you misread what I was writing."

I didn't disagree with anything I just wanted you to know that I am trying to help =]

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 12:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oxnardgirl - you seem like you're a good friend. My comment was to others who know your friend and could be positive influences in the lives of these children.

I'm glad that their mom seems to have learned from her mistakes and has these kids on the right path.

Posted by TiquisiaPrincess on August 27, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oxnardgirl -
Keep helping, be her friend a supporter. If she's doing good. Good for her. Nothing better than a good family and friend support system. I wish her well. God knows she'll need strength.
God Bless her and the kids!

Posted by handyhood on August 27, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tequisiaprincess, prisoners loose all custodial righs if they have been sentenced on a felony. Murder is diffently a felony. This no account poor excuse of a father cannot demand squat from the mother concerning the children. They are better off not to have any relationship with this creep. The Mother, if she is a hard working good person like it has been stated, needs to find a man who will appreciate her and her kids. These men do exist. They won't be gangbangers though. It has to say something about this mother and her choice of men cause Jeffy didn't suddenly become a problem!

Posted by TiquisiaPrincess on August 27, 2008 at 1:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

handyhood. I hope you're right, because i just read a document and said that if they "felons" request visitation rights, they will get a trial in Family Law and the courts may give him visitation rights. I'm not sure if this document is also for California, but unless he has no communication with them for over a year he can request the rights.

In fact, this document goes into detail that if his parents fight for grandparent rights, they can also take him to visit him.

Like I said, the law needs to focus more on the Victims. The criminal has WAYYYY to many rights!

Posted by TiquisiaPrincess on August 27, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

high_society -
Trust me...every chance I get.

Posted by handyhood on August 27, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

His visiting rights are going to be limited anyway as a prisoner in deaths row! You have to fill out visitation request and sign them before you are allowed to visit in a State prison. All the Mother needs to do is not fill out the paper work! The prisoner can not fill it out on his own for his children. Then petition the court to have his parental rights taken away. You need to show cause but I'm sure being a murderer is probably sufficent cause. Just say he is a detrement to the mental welfare of the children.

Posted by handyhood on August 27, 2008 at 1:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is a misconception by most people that prisoners have a bunch of rights. They don't. Most of their rights are taken away as soon as they have been found guilty of a felony. However, becuase Calif. has more Lawyers than any State possibly needs, and they are all looking for the big money case, we are fooled into beleiving that prisoners have rights. I can say this because I was once a bad person who found the love of Jesus and he changed my heart and my life. So lets not forget that some of us ex-prisoners can become productive members of society again. You have to want it!

Posted by getreal on August 27, 2008 at 1:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As I grew older I became more aware how our actions affect our children for years to come. This young lady did not date a murderer but she did date a gang member. What happens when her little girl starts to date. Will it also be ok to date a gang member? Lets start with the mothers parents. Why did they allow their little girl to date a thug? Why was this aceptable? Now looking back I see why my parents were adament about meeting everyone, and I mean everyone I dated so I didn't get wrapped up in stuff like this. So did this go farther back than the mothers parents? Will this mother allow the same thing? Parents are completly responsible for raising intelligent children. While it takes a village, lets start by being responsible parents. Hopefully this mother will not let her children make the same mistakes she made. We can all learn a little bit about this whole siuation. I hope these children DO grow to be responsbile, morale individuals. This situation is sad for two families. The victims family and these young children who will never know what a good father is.

Posted by keepin_it_real on August 27, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I only have a minute before I have to get back to work but HIGHSOCIETY, I normally agree with you and enjoy reading your posts. However, you said that single parenting is a recipe for disaster. I don't agree with that.

There are many single parents, men and women, who raise wonderful, outstanding young men and women. I am one of them. I have a son who was 2 yrs old when I divorced his father. He is a sucessful, honorable young man who has a beautiful wife and just bought thier first home.

So on that note I have to disagree with you. However, I do agree she may need some help, those kids will have to go thru life knowing what their father did. Sad. Have a good day. :)

Posted by rebel123 on August 27, 2008 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think that a lot of assumptions are being made about the mother of his children. Young girls make mistakes hooking up with the wrong guy. She apparently has not been living with him from other comments and there is nothing in this article that indicates his children are under his control or influence at this point. To assume "like father like son" is inappropriate just as it is inappropriate to suggest that the mother of his children is in any manner connected to his criminal behavior. The tangential thinking that is displayed on this board comes from a place of outrage. Until you have proof that this mother is anything other than responsible and loving or that she needs intervention, how about we leave her and the kids out of the discussion entirely?

Posted by TiquisiaPrincess on August 27, 2008 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rebel123-
I agree 100%. You are so right!

Posted by brwnbear on August 27, 2008 at 2:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

People that make bad choices always have an excuse or blame someone else but never themselves.

Posted by BigJake on August 27, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The spooky this is that this excremento bred, it has children. Some women are the worse judges of what they sleep with.

Posted by Comments on August 27, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rebel I mostly agree with you. I do agree that the children have nothing to do with this and should be left out of the discussion. At the end of the day Jeffrey and Jeffrey alone pulled the trigger. I also believe that young folks can make mistakes and learn from them. It could very well be that the mother of the children realized her mistakes and moved on to make a better life for herself and her kids. I really hope that's the case. However, it is also clear that at some point she was involved with this guy and involved for some time. I don't know the ages of her children, but if she has two then one could assume they were involved for at least the amount of time it took to create conceive those children and go through the pregnancies. I don't imagine that Jeffrey's gang affiliation is a new thing. So, I'm going to speculate and say that he was likely involved in the gang when they were together. That does show poor judgement at the very least. From her friend's reports it sounds as though she left him and was on her own with the kids. I surely hope so. And if so and if she's getting her life together then wonderful. I wish her and her children well.

Posted by rebel123 on August 27, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm darn glad I'm not being held accountable for every scum bag ex boyfriend I had in my youth. Give this lady a break. She's got enough on her plate now shielding her children from all this. Leave her out. She picked a bad guy. Not the first woman to do that and not the last, for sure. The world is full of women who made poor choices in mates. Leave her out of it and the kids too.

Posted by SoCalMommy on August 27, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Even if he is sentenced to death, he will remain on death row forever...look at Manson

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well Manson's death sentence was actually converted to life in prison when CA abolished the death penalty. Even though it was later reinstated, his sentence was never converted back.

But I hear you...death row in this state is a joke. Mandatory appeals process followed by even more appeals. I like the idea of sending some of our death row inmates to Texas...Git'er done!

Posted by SoCalMommy on August 27, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks beahappi....i should have researched "Manson" before I used his name. I looked him up after I posted it. I read on http://www.aclu-sc.org/releases/view/...
that California spends $117 million each year on the 673 people currently on Death Row -- nearly $175,000 per inmate per year. That is more than most of people make per year in Ventura make a year. Pathetic!!!!!

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OMG!! That is horrible! No wonder our state is in budget crisis. I don't mean to sound cruel but it seems like it's time to sterilize some needles and start saving some money.

Truly, it's the responsible thing to do. So the death row inmates are each s*cking away $175K per year in care. $175K per inmate that could go to schools...to hopefully prevent today's kids from going down a similar path.

WTF???

Now I'm mad.

Posted by mom31 on August 27, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The girlfriend is not the one to be blamed for this criminal's action. He made the choice to rob and kill on his own so he's the only one to be blamed for this crime. I don't think anybody has the right to criticize the girlfriend without being in her shoes first. Having kids is not a mistake, the mistake is choosing who the father is and I dont' believe there is such a person that has not made more than two mistakes in thier lives!! The kids are two little angels that don't deserve to be talked about and instead of worrying if their going to become criminals or not, we should pray for them and help the mom by not pointing the finger at her or her kids for Aguilar's actions. As for the criminal,whether he gets the death penalty or life in prison, he is going to have plenty of time to think of all the bad he did and all the people he hurt. He will pay for what he did some way or another and that's for sure.

Posted by whatever on August 27, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hopefully there will be rotting in the cell so by the time the penalty is actually completed, there won't be much left of him to bury at our expense.

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone who knows Jeffrey think that he will actually feel remorse for taking someone's life? Or will he only be remorseful because he was caught?

It just seems that so many death row or lifers "find" God or become remorseful after they have their lives basically taken from them.

What kind of souls must they have?

Posted by whatever on August 27, 2008 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Beahappi, what kind of souls? For any human being to do what this man did, he has to have a hole in his heart and absolutely no soul what so ever. He is nothing more than an animal who was out for the kill.

Posted by SoCalMommy on August 27, 2008 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No we "The People" will continue to pay for the ones who do the crime. You actually think that this criminal is going to sit in a cell and think about all the bad things he has done. Go to google and type in death row. You will find websites of criminals on deathrow that have pages dedicated to them including pictures and pen pal requests. We "The People" pay for their room and board, education, their children because criminal's girlfriend/wife had to apply for welfare assistance and the bible to help them find God. So please, he is not going to just sit there and feel whoa is me!

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Some more death row stats:

Currently there are 673 inmates on death row in California (men & women). 14 from Ventura County (2%).

The average time spent on death row prior to execution is 17.5 years.

$175K per year x 17.5 years = $3,062,500 per inmate. This x 673 inmates = $2,064,125,000 to house the death row inmates. $2 BILLION!

Does the governor have a calculator?

Heck, legalize pot and start up the gas chamber and that budget is done and done!

Posted by oxnardgirl on August 27, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Beahappi I would like to think Jeffrey would feel remoursful for his actions, but he's probably has no soul. No normal person kills for money?
He might feel bad because he got caught and will hopefully never see his kids again. But inside jail he will probably be praised for killing someone and for trying to kill 2 cops. I am for the death penalty even if it hits close to home.

Posted by oxnardgirl on August 27, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

should be an ! not a ? sorry

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oxnardgirl - you are so right about the praise in prison. Sad, isn't it?

I totally respect where you are coming from in regards to the death penalty for him. It seems very fitting, considering the crime and the aftermath.

Posted by missing805 on August 27, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You know your city is crappy when your city appears on a $tupid MTV show about young people who get busted by police..

Busted.MTV.com

Posted by SoCalMommy on August 27, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am for the death penalty. My husband and I lost a friend who was also a sheriff from being shot and killed by a person who had no remorse.

Posted by brwnbear on August 27, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Socalmommy-I agree with lethal injection

Posted by udntkno on August 27, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well i dont think the death penalty is right,yeah what he did was not right i agree but he has a family to juss like singh and killing him wont stop other gang members from killing innocent people it might juss trigger Aguilars friends and things could turn worse.
Oh and by the way high_society its NOT allways the parents fault so get ur F***** sh** strait.

Posted by jill on August 27, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Couldn't this apparently capable person have just gotten a job like most people do instead of stealing money from a hard-working man? And, wow, look what a few dollars was worth to this pathetic excuse for a human being: an innocent man's life and either life in prison or the death penalty. How do you get through to people who think like that in the first place?

Posted by 101VTA805 on August 27, 2008 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i have to agree about not pointing the finger at the mother obviously she knew he was bad news and got away from him and is raising the kids on her own and it sounds like she has help if she needs it and i dont agree that single parents cant raise kids because i am a single parent and my kids are just fine they are not criminals or in any trouble i know where my kids are and who there friends are and i check up on them frequently even though one is an adult living elsewhere i still worry and still make sure she is making good choices so single moms can do a good job even when the dads are not around because they chose the life of crime my kids are ok and so will hers
i also think that the prison system stinks. some guys actually like it, and consider it a vacation because it has all the comforts of home, even the drugs. they get them in there just as easily as they can on the streets. prison would be too good for him but unfortunatly thats where he is gonna spend the rest of his pathetic life instead of getting a quick death sentence which is what he deserves

Posted by getreal on August 27, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK, firt udntkno, the word is JUST, there is no such thing as 'juss', also the other words you are looking for are YOU ARE, and STRAIGHT. I hope that helps.

Posted by opns on August 27, 2008 at 5:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ieleen88 - take heed to patticake’s advise, you have no business with friends like this, they are not your friends. It’s good to hear from you, you need to stay active with the community by reading the positive comments from the Star people in the community. Don’t loose your life due to associations, it only takes 1 person by association to be guilty of a crime. Be careful. Think of how you can make new friends, there has to be a way, look for them – participate in community events, and your so called best friend – is she really? Take a real good look at her and compare her to a positive person in your life. This change change can be done casually. Be a leader, not a follower.

Your taking a lot of heat from the community because you came out to talk – that’s a good thing, take it and become strong from the commenters. Everyone here means well for you. Really.

You have a choice ieleen88 – its up to you.
If you ever want to talk and need a mentor, use this link to reach out, there’s a lot of resources here for you.

Take care and Becareful!
http://805vigilantes.blogspot.com/200...

Posted by opns on August 27, 2008 at 6:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oxnardgirl - that’s good - you’re a victim yourself by association, and your frustrations are heard, you need to get a hold of yourself if your going to help your friend in a positive manner. Take heed now, with all of this said and done. Be strong for your friend, encourage her to get support other than you, because your too close to her, family is too close to her, she need public assistance - is what the community here are trying to say. Nothing more, northing less. And it’s all for the sake of the children and mother. We all feel as strongly as you do.
Find her some help Oxnardgirl – such as Coilition to end Sexual and Domestic Violence – this is a very good organization whom will supply counceling. Don’t drop the ball oxnardgirl, stay focused and be strong. A thought, maybe you could be her companion and go with her. I'm sure the children will always remember this when grow up to be outstanding citizens and realize that they were victimized. Now do what you have to do, change that anger into something positive.

Coalition to End Domestic and Sexual Violence 1030 N. Ventra Rd Oxnard, CA 93030 Phone: 805-654-6014

Posted by 805girl on August 27, 2008 at 7:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

to all the ppl that have something cruel to say about jeffrey, I just have one thing to say. YOU ARE JUST AS COLD AS THE NEXT CRIMINAL! nobody has the right to say who should live or die, and jeffrey didn't either but if he did commit the crime(because he is only a suspect) than he will be held responsible and his day will come and I'm not talking about in court but with god. In the mean time why don't you ppl. have a little respect for his family who are just as heartbroken as anybody. And dont feel sorry for his kids because Im sure they dont need YOUR pitty. They need their dad, no matter if he's a killer or not. you ppl don't even know this person yet you are so quick to comment on the situation. And I hope they don't give him the death penalty, Do you ppl think is OK to take somebody's life or NOT! just because you take someone's life with the law in your hands doesn't make it right.At least I didn't read that exception in the 10 commandments.

Posted by 805girl on August 27, 2008 at 7:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey missing805, my friend was on the MTV show and that was FUNNY!! What you have never done something you regret? I bet you have, it just wasn't on camara.

Posted by jill on August 27, 2008 at 7:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Uh, call me crazy, but I think kids are better off without a gang-banger/murderer "dad." I can only imagine how he treated his kids. You can't be a gang-banger AND a good father, because you're already putting your loved ones at risk. He obviously has no respect for life. I'm sure his kids have already been put through hell by this loser.

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

805girl...here's a tip...find some new friends. Those kids need Jeffrey like they need a hole in head.

And if he's so innocent, then why did he shoot at police when they tried to arrest him and then hide in a Carp motel?

His family should have done a little bit more when he was young to keep him off the gang-banging path.

He deserves to never see the free light of day again.

Posted by 805girl on August 27, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First of all, you CANT imagine how he treated his kids, because you don't even know anything about this guy. And, His Kids will ALWAYS need their dad, and stop treating his family like they should be held responsible for anything. They are NOT, only jeffrey is(if he is guilty). Which is still to be proven!

I don't need new friends,I just need ignorant ppl.to stop making comments about something they know nothing about. You think the POLICE is so great! PLEASE now that's funny.

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 8:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

805girl...good for you for being loyal to your friends. Like it or not, people will comment on these stories and if it bugs you, you shouldn't read.

My comment about his family was in response to you saying that they were heartbroken. I'm sure they are - I would be. But I'd also ask myself what I could have or should have done to keep him from going down the wrong path. There had to be a point when he was growing up where he started hanging out with the wrong people or whatever.

Maybe if his family had intervened at an earlier age, Mr. Singh would still be alive and your friend would not be looking a life in prison or the death penalty.

Yes, innocent until proven guilty. However my money's on guilty. And since you seem to be close to this family, I'm sure that deep-down inside you know that he did it.

You're right - we have no idea how he treated his kids but kids do not need a murderer in their lives.

Posted by BeaHappi on August 27, 2008 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

805girl...one more thing. I'm guessing you're young and have grown up around this stuff. But there is a better way...there are many better ways.

Stay in school, go to college, get a good job, travel, see the world or at least the country. Make something with your life and encourage your friends to do the same.

There is so much out there for people who are willing to do what it takes.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on August 27, 2008 at 8:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And who, 805girl, is supporting Aguilar's kids? Who is supporting his breeder? Where are you from?

Posted by 805girl on August 27, 2008 at 8:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BeaHappi- What makes you think his family didn't tell him to stay away from things that would not benefit him. What parent wants this for their child, I am sure they didn't encourage this behavior. Unfortunantly, kids never listen to what loved one's have to say. I'm sure they did everything in their power to guide him in the right direction. His deceisions are HIS, not his parents, girlfriend, or children. If my dad was a murderer; he will still be my dad and I would forgive him for his mistakes if he was sorry. That's why I pray for Jeffrey and I am against the death penalty, I hope he gets the chance to reach out to his little one's one day when they are older.

As for the other comment, I am young I happen to be Jeffrey age. And, despite who I know I did stay in school, I did go to college, I actually have a family of my own. Yes, I have grew up around this stuff, and it makes me a better person because I have seen first hand the other side of the token. Not just the one ppl. see when they are quick to judge these gang-members, whom they know nothing about and what they have gone through to find themselves in a messed up situation like this one.

Posted by 805girl on August 27, 2008 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Equitable- I am sure their mother is supporting them, AND YOUR NOT! So what's it to you?

And I am from oxnard,CA born and raised. But, I'm sure that wasn't what you wanted to know. I am not a gangmember, why are you so quick to assume ppl. that have something other than hateful remarks for jeffrey and his family; are gang related.

I comment only on what I know not on what I assume.

Posted by 805girl on August 27, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He needs to be a sacrificial lamb. Are you kidding me! What jeffrey needs is to be given the chance to be assumed innocent until proven guilty! And IF he is proven guilty I hope not for the death penalty; that is not going to stop anybody from comminting a crime like this again!

I'll tell you what! why don't you take your ideas and put where the sun dont shine! And if not why don't we sacrafice YOU.

this way ppl. will make you the example of why you shouldn't make comments like those. You have no right to decide who should live or die.

Posted by 805girl on August 27, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay, ppl I'm out- but I do however, want to tell you to go ahead and keep up with your hateful comments about jeffrey and his family. But, hope you will never be put in a situation where ppl. will say comments like that about your parents,spouse,friends.

It doesn't matter what your loved one's do, you will always find the courage to first of all give them the benefit of a dought, and forgive them if they are truly sorry for the pain they have caused others.

I don't expect you to see that now. But, one day you will and I will feel sorry for your friend, or loved one and I will hope they are forgiven not free but forgiven, and given another chance to atleast grow and be a better person in jail or not.

Jeffrey, is not a monster he is a young guy troubled obviously. But, you ppl. should think of jeffrey as an example of why our community needs to start making changes," it takes a village to raise a child" let's work on making our community a better one for our children, stop encourageing so much hate for any one.

Posted by alloyz25 on August 27, 2008 at 10:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

805Girl, I'm sorry, but you're making me ill. Please support this Jeffrey monster in privacy and refrain from commenting publicly. You will find ZERO support from 99% of law abiding society. Thank you.

Posted by cheekz805 on August 28, 2008 at 4:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is to all the stupid idiot people up in this page that is just running their mouth when you don't even know what is really going on. People if you're going to comment about Jeffrey Aguilar, at least keep it real and respectful. Not for him but for his family. I know he made the wrong choice by taking that mans life and by trying to take the police life. But from all that mess that he made he is going to clean it up himself. I know him very good trust me I'm his cousin. When I found out about it I was in shock. I never thought my cousin would eve do that. Yes I knew he was a gang member and might of violated probation or the gang injunction, but we would of never imagine this at all. Yes he made the wrong choice that after noon but before this happened he was a very carrying person. That is why we can't see him doing such a horrible thing like that. I feel sorry for the victims family, but I also feel for my family. Now for all you big mouths blaming his parents shut the hell up. Its not their fault they tried to take him through the right path and give him so much advise, but if he chose not to take it then his parents couldn't do anything about it but be there for him and keep on helping him in every way they could to keep him from getting in trouble. Now he is no longer a minor he is an adult. He was tough from right and wrong, and also he was given a lot of advise. But he made his own choices. So for his "beautiful" choices he made for himself, now he is paying for his actions. We all know he did wrong and he also knows that and if he still doesn't know he did, he will know. You pay everything in this life either a live or with god. So stop blaming my uncles for my cousin's stupid actions. Now about his kids and girlfriend, leave them out of this. They are going through a lot already. Alex, Angelina, and the mother don't need your fake sorriness or your stupid income tax money. That is why she works and makes her own income tax money for her kids. Since she also gets income tax, she also pays for everything you guys are crying for. So stick your money up your a** and stop complaining. So if you guys have something to say about Jeffrey Aguilar, say it. But leave my family and mostly my nephews alone. You have no right to judge no one only god does.

<P.S>Now my advise for "high society and for all those losers that have no life" is don't be too pride, cause you never know when you will be in our shoes or even his shoes. Don't ever say never. So keep it real and a little respect for the family. And stop making stories up about him, his family , or even his girlfriend and kids. You don't know s---. Just cause you read about him or heard about him, it doesn't mean you know everything about his life.

Posted by OxnardNative on August 28, 2008 at 6:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The last thing I would do at this point and time, if I knew this idiot is admit it in public!!! All you people who knew or were related to this animal ought to be embarrassed and ashamed. WOW, what a surprise you say?! No matter, surprise or not, he did what he did and WILL pay the price and be talked about. He asked for it, he's getting it. So he had kids!? That's what it is now "HAD". He chose to abandon them. Yah, I feel sorry for the kids, but we know who’s to blame for their suffering now and it's not any of the people talking bad about this killer here on this post. He's a menace to society. He did what he did and did it knowing full well that he was going to hear all this and suffer, AS WILL EVERYONE else that has been affected by his ignorant crime. His own family, his girlfriend, her kids, the family and friends of the Singh family AND everyone in the society that this affects as well also suffers. You know what you need to do friends and relatives of this dumb a$$ punk COxCH slime?! You need to put your tail between your legs or stick you head into the ground and hide in shame that you knew and/or associated with someone who was capable of committing such a sick crime. THERE IS NO DEFENDING THIS CREAP NOW, no judge, no lawyer, no family and no friends can take back what he did. Let all these people and ME vent because that is all we can do at this point and time. Believe me if I had the chance to do more, I would!

Posted by cheekz805 on August 28, 2008 at 6:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

reading most of these negative comments make me laugh. i can't believe you guys are blaming the family, girlfriend, and his kids. you guys talk so much like if you and your lives are perfect. well guess what you're NOT. by you guys making up so many stories, assuming, blaming, judging, and being disrespectful to the family. makes you guys even lower than my cousin Jeffrey Aguilar. its so funny how you guys think its alright for you guys to judge. by the way who the f***k are you to judge or decide what is good or bad for society. i mean if you think about it you guys are not helping the society either. how do you expect to have a good society around all these negative, judging, disrespectful, hating, rude, races, and etc people like you guys. gang members, criminals, druggies, etc are no the only ones that make society bad. so if you want to really help with the society help yourself first.

AND KEEP MY FAMILY, MY NEPHEWS MOM, AND MY NEPHEWS OUT OF YOUR UNNECESSARY DISRESPECTFUL COMMENTS.

AND FOR MY COUSIN IF YOU EVER GET TO READ THIS: I LOVE YOU NO MATTER WHAT YOU DID. NOW ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS THINK OF WHAT YOU DID AND HOW MUCH PAIN YOUR FAMILY AND THE VICTIMS FAMILY ARE IN. I KNOW YOU ARE A VERY NICE GUY, YES YOU WERE A VERY TROUBLE MAKER KID JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BUT A RESPECTFUL GUY. WE LOVE YOU SO MUCH. BUT THIS TIME NO ONE CAN CLEAN YOUR MESS BUT YOUR SELF.

Posted by cheekz805 on August 28, 2008 at 6:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OXNARDNATIVE...

FIST OF ALL WE DON'T NEED TO HIDE OR BE ASHAMED FOR HIS ACTIONS. HE DID WHAT HE DID ON HIS OWN. IF I'M HERE TO COMMENT FOR MY FAMILY IS TO TELL MOST OF YOU TO KEEP MY NEPHEWS AND THEIR MOM OUT OF ALL THESE PEOPLES COMMENTS THAT ARE JUST BUNCH OF LIES.

SECOND OF ALL YOU ARE NO ONE TO JUDGE HIM OR TELL US HOW ASHAME WE HAVE TO BE FOR HIS ACTIONS.

THIRD OF ALL TALK IS CHEAP TALK ALL YOU WANT AND JUDGE ALL YOU WANT, CAUSE THAT IS ALL YOU COULD DO. JUST REMEMBER NO ONE IS PERFECT AND NEITHER ARE YOU.

Posted by alloyz25 on August 28, 2008 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm looking forward to the day that Jeffrey is executed.

Posted by mal1910 on August 28, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

After reading all of these comments, I still wonder...what was he thinking when he pulled that trigger? Was he thinking of his kids and family? Obviously not.

Yes, I have family who have made wrong choices, but murder? No. And if they ever did commit murder, they are no family of mine!

This is not about judging his family, this is about justice and how greedy, selfish, and sick people are.

Posted by 101VTA805 on August 28, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think every one needs to stop blaiming the parents and leave the girlfriend and the kids alone parents do the best they can to raise the kids and teach them right from wrong but we cant be with them 24 hours a day in the end its the kids that make the final decision on what they are gonna do im sure his parents didnt teach him growing up its ok to commit crimes and kill people he made that decision all on his own noone else to blame but him he pulled the trigger not his parents his girlfriend or his kids so let them be jeffrey will pay for what he did it will affect every one around him but he deserves to punished to fullest extent of the law and then some for his crime but his family doesnt need to be blamed for his actions he is an adult and responsible for him self now.
i have kids my self and i tell them every day to make good choices and taught them right from wrong but again in the end they make the final decision that doesnt make me a bad parent im doing the best i can and i have good kids but not every one is going to be so lucky there are obviously people out there that doesnt care and will keep commiting crime after crime
im all for him being punished for the rest of his life but i will agree with his cousin to leave the rest of his family alone its not there fault he did what he did

Posted by BeaHappi on August 28, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"by you guys making up so many stories, assuming, blaming, judging, and being disrespectful to the family. makes you guys even lower than my cousin Jeffrey Aguilar."

Sorry cheekz but no one posting here pulled the trigger and killed a man. People in this community are sick and tired of this gang BS and we can and will comment on whatever stories we like.

And for you to defend a murderer says a lot about your character and integrity. It's nice that you posted that he did commit the murder; I'm sure that will be very helpful with the prosecutor's case. At least 805girl stuck with the "innocent until proven guilty" argument.

Here's a tip for you...since you're obviously so close to these losers, why don't you get out there and preach to them to stop the gang-banging. That way we don't have to read any more stories about the murder of innocent people and the arrest of the thugs that were responsible.

Posted by N_Cash on August 28, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

cheekz805 said, "JUST REMEMBER NO ONE IS PERFECT AND NEITHER ARE YOU." Hold that thought for the penalty phase of the trial.

Posted by mom31 on August 28, 2008 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This crime not only affects the family of the criminal or the victim's family,it affects the whole community.It is scary to think that this could have happened to any of us or a family member. After this murder, I bet that everybody that goes to the bank is going to be watching their backs. As it is Oxnard is not very safe and now this, it just made it worst. This crime happened in our community where people have lived for years and have been trying to make it a better community for their future generation. Therefore each and everyone of us have the right to say something about it. We are nobody to judge anybody, but I think criminals should die the way they kill. (to bad there is no such law). Maybe criminals would think twice before killing.

The family is not the one to be blamed for this and I don't believe family members should be ashame of saying they are related to Aguilar. It