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Karen Quincy Loberg / Star staff Juliet Sun posing with the flag of her native China, is president of the Ventura County Chinese American Association. Sun says the China she experienced as a child has changed vastly from what viewers of the Olympics are seeing now.
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The Olympics pull back the curtain on the host country in ways perhaps impossible by other means.
When that country is China, among the world's oldest civilizations but one that largely was a secretive and closed society until the past two or three decades, the spotlight shines on many things — jewels and warts — far beyond the sports arenas.
The Summer Olympics in Beijing have shown off China's exploding economic might, growing athletic prowess, and rich culture and history. The games also have been a forum for denunciations and protests of China's human rights record, and an ugly portal into air pollution and other environmental problems it faces amid rapid change between old and new.
For members of the local Chinese American community, the Olympics in Beijing are a source of pride and hope — hope for a better China.
"I think this is a great opportunity to open the vision of China and present it to the world," said Juliet Sun, a 29-year-old Camarillo businesswoman and president of the Ventura County Chinese American Association. "It has broadened the vision for a lot of Americans who haven't been to China yet."
Debby Chang, an Oak Park resident who teaches Chinese at California Lutheran University in Thousand Oaks, sees the Olympics as a "real milestone" for China and a chance to show how far it has progressed in the past 30 years.
"I think Chinese society will be a better one after the Olympics," said Chang, 59, who was born in Taiwan, grew up in Hong Kong and came to the United States 40 years ago.
Helen Shih, immediate past president of the Conejo Chinese Cultural Association, also is optimistic but a bit more cautious.
"I'm going to be very eager to know if the government will be changed to give the people more freedoms — like we have here," said Shih, a 50-year-old Thousand Oaks health insurance worker who came to Ventura County from Taiwan in 1987. "That is my hope, that China will be a better human rights country."
China on display
The microscope on China has been big, beyond NBC's wall of coverage and countless articles. Ted Koppel did a four-part series for the Discovery Channel. The BBC recently did a series called "Wild China" that showed the country has a plethora of wildlife beyond just its national symbol, the giant panda.
The Travel Channel sent Samantha Brown there to show off the Great Wall, Beijing's Forbidden City, the Terra Cotta Warriors in Xian and other cultural touchstones that speak to old ways, emperors and dynasties. Brown also offered a snapshot look at China's cuisine and arts, such as dance and theater.
"It's a coming-out party," said Dr. George Yu, a lung specialist, Camarillo resident and chairman of the Ventura County Chinese American Historical Society. The 20-year county resident grew up in Hong Kong and once lived in Beijing.
China, the world's most populous country, with 1.3 billion people, and fourth-largest in land mass, has the longest continuously used written language system. It is also the country that brought us paper, printing, the compass and gunpowder, among other inventions.
The opening ceremonies hinted at its fascinating culture and history. Sun, who grew up in the old city of Suchou, deemed the ceremonies the "best ever." Shih called them "quite amazing" and said she received numerous e-mails from friends living in Taiwan and mainland China.
Chang is among those who are watching the Olympics day and night. Like the United States, she said, China is a sports-crazy nation; the country trains children for sports starting "at a very young age."
China appears to have sewn up the race for gold medals. At one point Wednesday, it led 45 to 26 over second-place United States, though America led the overall medal count, 82-79, over China.
At gatherings, Chang and friends root for the United States in certain sports and China in other ones.
"I'm loyal to my mother country, China, and to the country I've lived in for so long," Chang said.
Shih agreed, saying, "I want China and America to win at the same time."
Old and new
For some with Chinese roots, though, the games don't stir emotions.
"I don't feel it," said Dr. Thomas Quin Kong Jr., a 45-year-old Ventura cardiologist. Kong, noting that his family came to the United States more than a century ago, said ties have waned. Many American-born Chinese like him, he said, likely also don't have strong sentiments.
"It's nice to see the Olympics in China, but from a heritage point of view, most of us are well-removed from that," he said. "I don't look at it as my home country.
"There is a demonstration of Chinese strength and prowess over there," Kong continued, "but there are negatives, too."
Air pollution is an issue, he said. Sun, who lived in Beijing for two years earlier this decade before coming to Ventura County, agreed.
China's economic growth is staggering. It is now the world's second-largest energy user and second-biggest car market.
China also recently became the world's third-largest car manufacturer. This summer, it passed the United States as the world's biggest Internet market, with some 253 million users, both the CIA (World Fact Book) and China Today reported.
"China has shown the world its progress," Chang noted, "but it is at such a fast-moving pace. But I think the future will be more rational."
It's been dizzying. Shanghai, Chang said, has more high-rises than New York. Yu went back to Beijing two years ago and didn't recognize the neighborhood he lived in during the early 1980s. Twenty years ago, Sun noted, the few foreigners in China drew stares. Now, she said, English is so popular in China that many taxi drivers are learning it.
Shih and others see hope.
Still, Shih said, "many Chinese today only look at ways to earn money. That really worries me." Yu, the lung doctor, frets about pollution and the growing influence of Western diets, adding that the country must "temper growth with ensuring environmental health for the people."
An open future
Shih and Chang are among those who feel the Olympic experience will, in effect, force China to improve the environment and its human rights. Now that the society is more open, Shih said, it'll be more difficult to hide problems.
On the eve of the games, President Bush denounced China's human rights record. Said Chang: "I was a little surprised he said something right before going to Beijing, but he has a right to talk about human rights."
The Chinese government quelled protests in Tibet over the region's long quest for independence. Internationally, similar protests erupted along the Olympic torch relay route.
The Tibet issue, Sun said, "is a very complicated one. If California said today that it wanted to be independent, would the U.S. government say OK'? Sovereignty is never an easy thing to give up."
Both Sun, who was in Tibet last year, and Chang said the Chinese government has improved things in Tibet, pumping in money for better education and infrastructure. Many people, Chang said, don't understand all the issues; too often, she added, the Olympics are used as a political stage.
Tibetans, Sun said, have killed people, too, adding, "To me, that's not a Buddhist thing to do, to go against government in that way."
On the other hand, she said, the Chinese government needs to allow freedom of the press. It has tried to control that.
Progress is slow
Yu, who's also visited Tibet, noted the "One world, one dream" Olympic motto. "Well," he said, "the Chinese and Tibetans are one people." Hopefully, he added, China will respect Tibet's rights.
"It is very difficult," Sun said, "when you talk about these issues. China is such a huge country. Progress is slow, but they are working on it."
In a country with 1.3 billion people and 56 recognized nationalities, Sun noted, "it's not easy to keep everyone happy."
The Olympics, Chang said, represent an opportunity for China "to open the door to the world" — and keep it open.
Yu indicated that it's amazing how much good will an Olympic Games — this one features about 11,000 athletes from 204 recognized nations competing in 302 events in 28 sports — can foster.
The world is watching China now, and it needs to continue watching once the games end, he observed.
Said Yu: "We have to make sure we check up on them in the future."





Posted by NowHearThis on August 21, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Juliet Sun is wrapped in the flag of Red China. I find it disgusting, reprehensible and abhorrent that this immigrant to the United States of America would shun her new country for her old, specifically China, who is the worst and opposite when it comes to many values and freedoms we enjoy in the USA.
That's the problem with today's immigrants. They could care less about their new country, its riches, opportunities and prosperity.
Sun's action and ideology and comments are a slap in the face to me.
Then there is Debby Chang, who says, "I'm loyal to my mother country, China, and to the country I've lived in for so long."
Then frickin' go back to your "mother country," Ms. Chang and take Ms. Sun and others with you.
This is exactly why the USA is losing her identity. Immigrants who come here don't want to assimilate, while maintaining their cultural ties to their homelands. America is collapsing for this very reason. "A house divided cannot stand." President Lincoln reminded us of that. And, with immigrants from the world moving into their enclaves, it is a matter of time before racial clashes occur. NO, they're already happening.
I know a recent naturalized U.S. citizen who still refers to "his people," when discussing folks from his homeland. Every time I hear that, I remind him that, "I'm his people," now and he should realize it, or move back to where he came from.
Many of today's immigrants, both legal and illegal continually spit on America and I'm very tired of it!
And frankly, I don't like the STAR promoting such trash.
Posted by What on August 21, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Your xenophobia is blinding me. You say that immigrants are causing the US to lose its identity because they don't want to assimilate. What is the US's identity? To say that 300 million people spread over 4000 miles have a single, unitary identity is inane. I am as different (and similar) to people in other parts of the US as I am to people from other countries.
If you'll remember, we are a nation of immigrants. By asking immigrants to assimilate and cut their cultural ties with their homeland, you're asking them to leave a part of themselves and their identity. I think it's too much to ask of the millions of immigrants who contribute so much to the US to check in a huge part of themselves at the door when they enter the U.S.
Also, you're in for a big surprise when immigrants and minorities become the majority by 2050. Hopefully you can learn some tolerance by then.
Posted by eclipsewatcher on August 21, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm just mad because the U.S. Women's Gymnastics Olympics team lost the gold medal to a bunch of 12-year-old Chinese girls!
Posted by What on August 21, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Juniormafia, it is tragic that American troops are dying in combat everyday. However, they are doing so not to protect the liberties of Americans, but to extend corporate control and increase corporate profits in the Middle East. Loyalty to the country that keeps us fed and clothed? What about the millions of Americans (including over 10 million children) who live in poverty. How can the US protect our liberties abroad when they can't even provide them here at home?
Posted by What on August 21, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I see this argument again and again: the reason the poor are poor is because they want to be. It places the blame on the people and not the system. I'm sure there are a handful of people who are homeless because they choose to be. But the vast majority are poor through no choice or fault of their own. This argument is particularly disheartening when leveled at children and their parents. Should children go out and get a job and work hard so that they can have a hot meal and a roof over their head. And what parent wouldn't do everything in their power to make sure their child had the basic necessities? Ambition helps one to succeed in America, but there are structural inequalities in place in this country which, generally, keep certain people at certain socioeconomic levels.
Posted by davegolfer on August 21, 2008 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As a third generation Chinese here in the US...I am embarrassed to be Chinese when viewing the Olympics. The Chinese government are cheaters, liars and they treat their people worst than stray dogs as they tried to put on the best Olympics ever. I am happy that this Camarillo Chinese lady can put on her Chinese flag in this great country that we live in because if she tried any sense of protest in China she would be in jail or sentenced to hard labor camp like the 70 year ladies who were protesting that their house was demolished to make way for the Olympics. The underage gymnasts, the deceptions and lying to call it the Faking Olympics, The moving of 3 million Chinese to build the Olympic events…I am nauseated when I see and read what is happening over there in the name of the Beijing (Faking) Games. I lived in Hong Kong and visited China but I will never be caught holding a Chinese flag…GO USA!!!
Posted by davegolfer on August 21, 2008 at 11:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Camdad...thank you for the correction on my entry. Yes I am an American Chinese and proud of it.
Posted by robtm2180 on August 23, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I was intrigued with a story I read online from the LA Times about Eddie Perez Romero, who recently "vandalized two upscale hotel rooms in Beijing as part of what the longtime pastor of a La Puente church described as a protest against China's human rights abuses." Wow. I think that showing the under-aged Chinese women's gymnastics team on TV has done more to sensitize the world to corruption (and human rights violations) in China than the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989. Does today's generation even know about Tiananmen Square? I think that Americans will disassociate from Romero's protest and soon forget him because he broke the law. (What a waste.) On the other hand, Americans will continue to remember images of China cheating in women's gymnastics.
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