Posted by mikealerich on August 19, 2008 at 5:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can the Star give readers a history of bank robberies in the Oxnard area the past few years?

Posted by azuresees on August 19, 2008 at 6:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope the Spanish media circulates this story. I would think the uniqueness of his clothing would spur someone to recognize this man. I only pray that if his family sees him, they can muster up the courage to turn him in.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on August 19, 2008 at 6:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I was in another county the other day and did see a shirt on a teen that was just like that of the guy (suspect). I believe it said Aztec on the front?

Posted by southcalgirlie on August 19, 2008 at 6:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No the shirt is Barcelona

BARCELONA JERSEY:
https://www.prosoccer.com/productDeta...

Posted by ironwoman on August 19, 2008 at 6:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pattiecake- I don't think Police need to give a reason other than at that time they decided not to use it. I am sure that Police knew what they were doing.
There are many scenarios that could be used to discuss if this madman would have done something else to more people. When something tragic happens, police are usually blamed.

Hopefully they will catch this loser.

Posted by handyhood on August 19, 2008 at 8:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can't they inhance the face of the suspect? I'm sure he no longer has the shirt he was wearing unless he is the biggest idiot on the planet! Let's get a good look of the face of this SOB!

Posted by southcalgirlie on August 19, 2008 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oxnard has a lot of soccer teams that use the official soccer jersey's of teams. Maybe they should look in to that.

Posted by mrya_99 on August 19, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

southcalgirlie "No the shirt is Barcelona"

If it is a Barcelona shirt, Could this guy have been in Extreme Soccer before walking to the bank? Humm?? But like Juniormafia said, "They should look at the surveillance tape of that soccer store". I am sure the police talked with all the business in the area though. Hope this guy is caught and the FULL weight of the law in smashed on him.

Posted by brwnbear on August 19, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They need to check all soccer stores for clues.
That would be a start.

Posted by ruby_pdr on August 19, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Do you really think he was stupid enough to wear clothing he actually has in his closet?!! Think about that one??? The guy wore something out of the ordinary something he would not normally wear.

Posted by Robert_Worthley on August 19, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oxnard Police Dept. is faced with a particularly difficult challenge when trying to solve a major crime such as the murder and robbery of Mr. Singh. That challenge is, for reasons which have been discussed on this site over and over again, that there are people within certain communities who have knowledge that would solve the crime but who are afraid to come forward due to fear of retribution.

Crime Stoppers provides the means to input information to law enforcement with guaranteed anonymity. Moreover, if a tip leads to an arrest, a reward of up to $1,000 is paid by Crime Stoppers and the tip can tie into larger rewards, such as the two $10,000 rewards also offered for arrest and conviction in this case.

El programa "ALTO AL CRIMEN" (CRIME STOPPERS, su nombre en ingles) en el Condado de Ventura se permite a cualquier persona de la comunidad, dar informacion en forma anonima sobre cualquier crimen (felonia) que haya sido perpetuado en al Condado de Ventura. Usted permanecera en el anonimato, sin miedo a represaliz. No es necesario testificar sus datos personales para recibir la recompensa.

Ingles o espanol: 1-800-222-TIPS (8477)

Para mas informacion: http://www.VenturaCountyCrimeStoppers...

Posted by AnnaWhaat on August 19, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah that soccer shirt looks more like it. For the price of them ,perhaps they have sold many and can narrow it down. Or the day of the murder maybe he strolled around other stores with video cameras.

Posted by vlo on August 19, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i hope they catch that son of "b" and hang him!

id like to kick him in the face as if it were a soccer ball afterall he is a soccer fan, such an idiot to wear such a bright shirt! geeze

my condolences go out to the family i could never imagine this happening to a loved one, so sad.

their in my prayers!

Posted by Comments on August 19, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The picture is very fuzzy and there's no way I'd recognize this person if I were to bump into him today. Is there any way that the picture can be enhanced to more clearly define his face? If so, I hope that that picture can be published. Though I'm sure if people who know him closely see even this picture it would stand out to them. I hope that he's turned in very soon.

I for one do trust that the police made the right decision re: whether or not to use the reverse 911 system. I love it how a poster or two here seem stuck on this issue and refuse to give it up even though we've been told that it was a conscious decision and not an oversight. Surely the police know more than a regular poster here. Someone made a good observation the other day regarding this issue. She said that one reason the system may not have been used was because it could've caused a panic and had many residents to leave the apt complex at once. That would be bad on so many levels. One, there would be the risk that the killer would get away in the crowd and two, it could place all those innocent people at risk if the killer was indeed in their midst. Another possible reason is that the cops may not have wanted to tip their hand to this guy if they felt he were holed up in one of the apts.

This is a murder investigation and I'm going to assume that the police know a lot more then what they're letting on - for obvious and right reasons. I trust that all is being done to catch this creep as well as to protect the public.

Posted by N_Cash on August 19, 2008 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Take heart. The police may not catch this murdering scumbag today, tomorrow, or next week, but they will catch him, and eventually he'll have his date with the executioner's lethal injection needle.

Posted by Latina_805 on August 19, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ruby_pdr I agree with you, maybe he's not even a soccer fan, and possibly the oposite of it. I believe the Xtreme Soccer store opens at 10am. So I doubt he was in there that morning.

Posted by Latina_805 on August 19, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

shaved head? How can you see that?

Posted by ruby_pdr on August 19, 2008 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

at this point anything is possible whatever his race is he's SCUM!!!

Posted by mIssSIdekIck on August 19, 2008 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

IM SORRY TO SAY BUT HE LOOKS LIKE A STRAIGHT OUT MEXICAN FROM MEXICO, WHAT US LATINOS SAD TO SAY BUT CALL THEM PISA'S.... THEY LOVE WEARING THEM KIND OF SHIRTS & THEY LOVE SOCCER... I KNOW ITS SAD TO CALL THEM THAT BUT WHO EVER IS MEXICAN KNOWS THAT WE ALL USE THAT WORD, I CAN SO TELL HE IS A MEXICAN DUDE!!

Posted by Latina_805 on August 19, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

and the word is paisa, with a 'thingy' on the a or i, not sure.

Posted by mypov on August 19, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i agree with CAMDAD, i doubt this is everyday clothes for this guy obviuosly he planned what he was gonna do, so dont u think he planned his clothes??? but oxnard is a small town so i dont think hes from the area. The victim was a business owner perhaps this guy was watching him, knowing that he must be depositing/ withdrawing money from a bank for business. I dont know if the victim has business's outside of oxnard,i doubt the suspect is a oxnard native

Posted by southcalgirlie on August 19, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My husband is on a soccer team from the league of Simi and they wear Argentina’s jersey but they are called a mexican team’s name. So that doesnt mean he is from Barcelona

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on August 19, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't think criminals are smart, that is why they are criminals.

If they did reverse 911 all the other losers in oxnard would have hunted this guy down and eliminated him for the money he just stole.

A vicious circle, I wish they would all just off each other already so we can live in peace!

Posted by PackFan02 on August 19, 2008 at 10:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

N_cash- Even if he does get caught who is to say they give him the lethal injection needle? And even if they do, how long before it happens?? Until then he gets free room and board! Its a stupid situation.. The family and community obviously want justice but when it comes he gets a place to sleep food to eat until, what? He gets set free on good behavior in 10 to 15 years?? Its crap.. They should put him front of a firing squad...

Posted by Latina_805 on August 19, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jr. your right that the shirt is not a Mexican team,but Rafa Marquez is on the Barcelona team, and also plays for Mexico. Also they have Ronaldinho who plays for Brazil who is very popular in Mexico.

Posted by CharliesMom on August 19, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

missSldkick: I'd like to clarify to you and to everyone else that not all of us Latinos call people "paisas". It is a complete DEROGATORY term as close to the "N" word as can be. And NO, not all Latinos call each other that, as you say. And NO, it is not okay to do so either, it is WRONG! Only low-class people such as yourself, (as you have shown) will use such class-less terminology to call your own people. Learn how to be a good example for others, and learn to have some dignity & respect for yourself and for everyone else!

Posted by Latina_805 on August 19, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And all I'm saying is that just because the jersey is not from team Mexico doesn't mean he isn't Mexican. The Barcelona team actually played the day of the murder, I think. That blood money will go only go so far. I hope oxpd soon gets a lead.

Posted by bugmenot on August 19, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

a photo like the one taken by a surveillance camera would not enhance very well. there's an old saying, you cannot turn crap into gold.

if the photo were taken in RAW mode then it could be enhanced. RAW is like the film, whereas the JPEG is the printed out photo.

there are some photo enhancing techniques such as s-spline interpolation that may be worth looking into, but it's not like CSI or what you've seen on TV. i'll see what i can do and if it's worth posting, maybe i'll do so. it'd be nice to get a copy of the original file. perhaps the current image has been resized.

edit: the photo is too pixelated to enhance.

Posted by filipaisa on August 19, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i think the police didnt use that reverse 911 system because as crazy as it may seem. theres a bunch of NOISEY PEOPLE who inna time like this woho would gather outside instead of stay in and maybe they think he lives in the area and that would give a heads up.i have family in that area but TRUST THE POLICE in THIS ONE..For anyone Who Doesnt Live in the APTS or Mobilehome Area...IT SHOULDNT MATTER TO YOU!

Posted by NowHearThis on August 19, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why doesn't the STAR provide an in depth description? How tall is the perp: weight, ethnicity, etc? Is the STAR covering up something?

Posted by Latina_805 on August 19, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

jr. i'm not agreeing with mIssSIdekIck. I'm just saying that because the killer wore a Barcelona jersey we should rule out him being Mexican. I know many Latinos who are Barcelona fans, not too long ago Club Barcelona came to LA and played against the Chivas, and the majority in the stadium were Latinos.

Posted by rebel123 on August 19, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Somebody knows this guy and knows where he is. I'm betting it is indeed his own shirt (likely tossed out now), but somebody recognizes this animal and is just not willing to turn him in. If that's the case, they are aiding a cold blooded killer who is just as likely to turn on them as on this innocent victim. A brazen crime like this is not committed by a person with a cool head and a clear mind.

Posted by whatever on August 19, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They also need to pay attention to anyone out spending money. If a family member sees a son, brother husband etc with money all of a sudden, it should be questioned, as well as any business with someone coming in spending big cash. They should take a look at their cameras at the end of the day just in case. I fear the guy made it to Mexico.

Posted by brwnbear on August 19, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My sugestion would be to post his picture on all the bill boards around ventura county with the reward amount. That way more people will see his picture and turn him in.

Posted by ruby_pdr on August 19, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)

Get of the subject of the dam shirt!!!!!

sidekick chick SHAME ON YOU!!!

Posted by ruby_pdr on August 19, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)

oops i meant OFF!!!!

Posted by CharliesMom on August 19, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh please, anyone who associates w/ a person like this criminal would NOT be reading the newspaper, much less reading your suggestions at how to turn him in. Hopefuly the police have more information than what they're revealing, and they are onto him.

It's a sad time in society where people are so desparate for money, that they have no regard for the life of another human being.

My condolences to the victim's family.

Posted by h2odog on August 19, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Southcalgirl-Sorry to inform you, but if you have ever traveled the world, there are no greater soccer fans than the British, in my opinion. Everywhere they go, they're always wearing their team jerseys, matter of fact, have your ever heard about the "Hooligans.?" I have also read the many bank robbers always wear some distraction to make people focus on a certain part of their body, sometimes even a bandage. This often leads to people focusing in on the object rather than the individuals features. If I am thinking like a criminal, I would definitely want people focusing in on my red/blue soccer shirt rather than my true identity. Why not dress like a soccer fan/homie to throw everyone off?

Posted by ruby_pdr on August 19, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Camdad101 THAT'S WHAT HIS WHOLE INTENT WAS TO THROW THE POLICE OFF. THE IDIOT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE FROM OXNARD HAVE YOU'ALL THOUGHT ABOUT THAT???!!!

Posted by Ms_California on August 19, 2008 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I really don't think that the shirt is of any signifigance here other than an identifiable article of his appearance. Many people wear barcelona shirts, I have one! I am white! Barcelona was made big primarily because of Renoldino (sp?) It is a very popular jersey. I doubt that he went into the soccer store to buy a shirt to commit the robbery. Those jerseys are not cheap. Kmart would have cheaper shirts he could have bought.

I think (like someone noted above) people need to focus more on his physical appearance than his clothing. I am sure that jersey is long gone and if it isn't he is just as stupid as I thought he was, considering he wore such bold clothing to the robbery. I agree that any of the other shops that had security cameras should be reviewed if they aren't already in the process.

Posted by beachgurl on August 19, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm wearing a grey shirt right now...no team names...no decoration...very inconspicuous.

Posted by getreal on August 19, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I bet very few people will be wearing this jersey for a while!

Posted by Ms_California on August 19, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

getreal, why would you stop wearing it? If a suspect was identified as wearing a white t-shirt and jeans would people stop dressing as such? If your not guilty why would you change your habits?

Posted by getreal on August 19, 2008 at 12:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Regarding the white t-shirt and jeans. no I would not stop wearing it but so many people have made such a huge deal about this shirt, this particular, very loud, stand out in a crowd shirt, that anyone who is seen wearing it will be scrutinized, studied and maybe accused or mistreated by what they are wearing.

Posted by Ms_California on August 19, 2008 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Those shirts are so popular it is almost equivalent to the white t shirt... haha... soccer is becoming such a huge sweep in America that it seems that almost everyone has some sort of soccer team apparel. I have mine, I'm not going to stop wearing it.

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on August 19, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi Junior!!

Ms California- I'm sure there are alot of other people out there looking for this guy other than the cops. If I sported that shirt, I'd be hanging it up for a while due to the fact that I could get my a$$ beat out in the street for mistaken identity!

Posted by Ms_California on August 19, 2008 at 1:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hueneme girl... guess I gotta put up my dukes hu haha! I can pretty much guarantee I won't be taken as mistaken identity haha!

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on August 19, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi Missy Cali - didnt even realize that I was responding to you - brain fart today :)

Yeah, I see your point, I sure dont look anything like that ugly mug in the picture! But, if I was a guy and was similar looking, I dont think I'd wear that shirt around town if I were him.... :)

Posted by 805Mommaof2 on August 19, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There is the Extreme Soccer store that is located just a few stores down from the bank, if in fact he is wearing a disguise maybe he purchased/stole it there. If I were one of the detectives working the case I would look into seeing if a jersey like this one was purchased recently, may provide some additional information. I know that sounds simple and hopefully they have thought of that already but if not then I don't think it would hurt to look into it further. Just a thought.

Posted by mypov on August 19, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lets give OPD the benefit of the doubt, Do you really think that they havent talked to adjacent business's, looked at other videos?

Posted by Ms_California on August 19, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

one word Jr.... HOOTERS!

Posted by Ms_California on August 19, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Boy.. you can't miss'em! haha!

Posted by mIssSIdekIck on August 19, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HELLO PEOPLE, OKAY SORRY IF I OFFENDED ANYONE BUT IM NOT SAYING JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE WEARS A SOCCER JERSEY YOUR AUTOMATIC MEXICAN THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY STUPID TO SAY, MY OPINION IS JUST THE WAY HE'S FULLY DRESSED, THE CAP, SHIRT JEANS.... THE WAY HIS FACE KINDA LOOKS, YOU CAN TELL HES NOT WHITE..OR BLACK... TO ME HE LOOKS MEXICAN!! THAT IS JUST MY OPINION I CAN ALMOST BET THAT ONCE THEY FIND THIS GUY WATCH HIM BE AS IM ASSUMING. CRIMINALS ARE STUPID AS LivinInPoorMansPV POSTED, SO MOST LIKELY THIS IS THE WAY THIS GUY USUALLY DRESSES... & REGARDING USING THE WORD "PAISA" IM SORRY BUT IM JUST BEING HONEST HERE... I'LL ADMIT I USE THAT WORD AS SO DO SOOO MANY OTHER HISPANICS DO, DAM I EVEN CALL MYSELF THAT SOMETIMES, ITS JUST THE WAY IT IS... ANYWAYS LIKE I SAID I REALLY HOPE THIS GUY GETS CAUGHT SOON, & THIS IS TRULY A SAD THING THAT HAD TO HAPPEND

Posted by crazymind20082009 on August 19, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

screw the jersy!! It is gone by now.

I want this guy off the streets and sent to the boondocks of prison. I do not care if he is white, black, mexican, asian, greek, blue, purple, yellow, orange or anything, he needs to be caught.

Money talks...is there a reward being offered?

I wonder if the bank has any other pictures they could display besideds this security one and give a good look at the face.

Posted by 805Mommaof2 on August 19, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mypov...I'll give you the benefit of the doubt to kick rocks!

BTW, I didn't say that they hadn't thought of it already, in fact what I did say is that I hope they would have thought of that already. Are you looking for someone to debate with, well you're not going to find it with me, my comment was harmless , if you want to debate with someone, there are many others here to do so with, so look for your debate elsewhere.

Posted by brwnbear on August 19, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

misssidekick, you ok, all them capital letters seemed like you were screaming at everyone. Don't take it to personal

Posted by mIssSIdekIck on August 19, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No not yelling @ anyone I just usually type like that...mybad =]

Posted by Latina_805 on August 19, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THAT IS SO CUTE! =)

Posted by brwnbear on August 19, 2008 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lol, u even got a present

Posted by vlo on August 19, 2008 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

funny how everyone keeps talking about the shirt, yes it was STUPID of him to wear a bright shirt during a bright morning!

but what about the family who lost their loving dad!

my condolences to them!!!!!!

Posted by chiques on August 19, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He didn't have to shoot him. I'm sure he would have given him the money simply by holding him up. Cruel.

Posted by Scapegoat on August 19, 2008 at 10:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok, how did the perp know Singh had withdrawn a lot of cash? What is that all about?
Could it be a business deal was going down, and somebody was setting Sigh up, knowing full well his schedule at the bank? Was Singh doing business with shady, unworthy low-lifes? (i hope not)
I am also thinking the perp, Mr. Barcelona soccer Shirt guy, is a pro. A paid killer. That would account for his brazenness. He shot Singh right outside the door! Shirt guy then disappeared faster than free food at an open house.

Posted by KeepingitReal on August 20, 2008 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Trust is given when trust is earned....

Posted by vlo on August 20, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

high_society:

NO, I THINK YOU MISSED MY POINT!

I KNOW ITS NOT ABOUT THE STUPID SOCCER SHIRT ITS ABOUT FINDING THAT DAMN IDIOT HE DESERVES TO ROT IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE! I WAS JUST SAYING EVERYONE ON HERE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT THE SHIRT THE SHIRT THE SHIRT (LETS GET OVER THE SHIRT) BESIDES HE PROBABLY TOOK IT AND WAS RUNNING IN A WHITE SHIRT!

*F.Y.I. I WORK FOR A LAWYER, IM A LOT SMARTER THAN YOU THINK!

Posted by Scapegoat on August 20, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No one cares misssvlo, QUIT SHOUTING

Posted by mikealerich on August 20, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

[Edit] 8-20-08 UP-DATE, U.S. BANK MURDER ON BANK STEPS
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Contributed by: mike alerich on 8/20/2008

BANKS - BANDITS and VENTURA COUNTY
Appears 21K reward posted for killer of bank customer 8-16-08, 0930hr on steps of U.S. Bank in Oxnard. Unclear if reward is for information on suspect or arrest of suspect or conviction of suspect or re-conviction of suspect after appeals process also unclear if reward is taxable.
Also unclear is if U.S. Bank reimbursed the victim's family for the cash he withdrew a few minutes earlier that was pried from his hand as he lay dying on their steps.
Also unclear and not answered by the press, police or bank officials is what visible security measures were in place to protect customers & bank employees at the time? or was there even a security guard posted by the bank entrance?.... cameras don't count.
There must a reader out there that has the definite answers ,not opinions !.

History/ Information of Ventura County Bank Robberies, 1998 - Present, will be posted on Bank Terrorism website, www.bank211s-mike.blogspot.com Thur. 8-21-08.
Mike Alerich
bank211s@aim.com

Posted by opns on August 20, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

missvlo - The shirt your so tired of hearing about is a big clue to this mans mindset, or who may of planted the thought to him. Leave it for the lawyers, just do your work as you were hired to do. Dosen't matter who you work with by the way. I don't think many were impressed with where you work. So, get back to work!

Posted by opns on August 20, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Camdad, i would bet she's using Word Perfect
no spell check or grammer check.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on August 20, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikealerich, I read an earlier post. It said that up to $1K was to be paid upon arrest. The remaining $20K was to be paid upon conviction. Terms may be negotiable. It is my understanding that the entire reward could be paid anonymously if funneled through Crime Stoppers.

Posted by opns on August 20, 2008 at 5:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HS, i'm telling you - she's using Word Perfect, not Microsoft. I would bet i'm right, most legal staff use word perfect. never understood why, don't like myself, i prefer Gates.

Posted by 805Nana_1 on August 20, 2008 at 10:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I drove by there today and can see how easy it was for shirt guy to get away. He just ran around the corner and jumped the fence. Probaly only took him a couple of seconds to disappear. Maybe even had a car parked in that apartment complex. The north/south bound freeway entrance to the 101 is only a short distance away. Was probaly already on his way to who knows where by the time the police got there. God I hope they catch him soon.

RIP Mr. Singh

Posted by vlo on August 20, 2008 at 10:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Funny how people chat back in forth on here and get off the subject, use msn messenger please!

Word Perfect, Word same difference! Who cares, I don't!

Yes, I said I work for a lawyer ohh and did I mention my title? No so here goes: "Partner"

Now, back to the subject......

I pray for the family who lost their beloved one and I pray for the family of the suspect as well!

Posted by opns on August 21, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Camdad - vlo does not know better, i must of been right - they use word perfect. Who cares ....
but i'm right huh??

We too vlo pray for the family's lost child. So get back to work now partner, before your bought out.

Posted by CharliesMom on August 21, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

high_society , Camdad101 , & opns: You guys sound like a bunch of immature children!! Entertaining yourselves with criticizing basic grammar & computer programs--who cares?!! Stick to the subject & just continue with a DIALOGUE on the topic!!

Posted by capt_jack on August 21, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

high_society- NOW you really sound like an immature cry baby. Just stick to the articles and stop talking down at people. Maybe you will get some respect.

I suggest that if you are working with the community to try to catch this guy, you really need to touch up on your people skills.

Posted by seahorseblue on August 21, 2008 at 10:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

CharliesMom:

"high_society , Camdad101 , & opns: You guys sound like a bunch of immature children!! Entertaining yourselves with criticizing basic grammar & computer programs--who cares?!! Stick to the subject & just continue with a DIALOGUE on the topic!!"

I agree. Just to get away from the discussions on "bad grammar & computer programs" that this forum has degraded to, I found this article very interesting on the VCStar's Blog: The Backstory – Strong Words: Homicide vs Murder written by Star staff member Adam Foxman. Below is an excerpt:

"In the journalism business, we have to choose our words very carefully, because words that may seem like synonyms can be very different.

"That's why when a person is killed by another, we write that police are investigating a homicide, rather than a murder.

"The main standard we use is a guide called the Associated Press Stylebook. It has entries on everything from academic titles to zero-base budgeting.

"The entry for homicide reads like this:

"homicide, murder, manslaughter
Homicide is a legal term for slaying or killing.
Murder is malicious, premeditated homicide. Some states define certain homicides as murder if the killing occurs in the course of armed robbery, rape, etc.
Manslaughter is homicide without malice or premeditation.
A person should not be described as a murderer until convicted of the charge.
Unless authorities say premeditation was obvious, do not say that a victim was murdered until someone has been convicted in court. Instead, say that a victim was killed or slain.

"I've highlighted the second to last sentence of the entry because it shows that AP style is actually more restrictive than the dictionary definition. Even if authorities are ready to call a killing a murder, we might not use that word if they have not made it clear that the act was premeditated."

The California Penal Code defines Murder as:

187. (a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought.

Posted by live_for_purpose on August 24, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They used the reverse 911 system in Camarillo when they had a murder by Lewis and Pleasant Valley Roads. Why not use it in Oxnard when a murderer is in hot flight?