Posted by OxnardNative on August 12, 2008 at 5:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess everything changes for a child (minor) once they've died and gone. My son had a case in juvenile court and I needed HIS approval to get any information out of the court. My wife tried to get records with regard to our daughter out of a college she attended as a minor and the college said that they too could release nothing without our daughter's consent because she was a minor?! That defense lawyer ought to lose a child by way of a murderous teen who commits a hate crime. NOTHING can justify what McInerney did, NOTHING! I sure hope that crook Steve Pell is doing this for the King family pro bono. He's a divorce lawyer so what's he doing in this case? Regardless I certainly hope he can get justice for Larry. If not, he should be reduced below his current "bottom feeder/crook" status within the eyes of the public.

Posted by 6bucks on August 12, 2008 at 6:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, I can't help but notice the pictures of the two. One a grainy black and white photo and the other of the victim in color and looks like he's only 6 or 7 years old. That's a bit of a strange thing to do. I'd rather the Star not print them at all rather than portray both of them like that.

Posted by Hueneme1961 on August 12, 2008 at 6:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

leave larry alone.he is not with us any more,McInerney should be locked up for a very long time, but i think there are other people were to that should be in jail. Like the person who 's gun it was.also i do thin E.O Green and H.S.D was some fault in this.I mean they do have a dress code for a reason.harassment is one of them. But going into larry records is just wrong His Dead leave me alone !!!!

Posted by UncleRico on August 12, 2008 at 6:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gee OxnardNative, I don't know. Did it ever cross your mind that Pell is involved in the case because the King family HIRED him to represent their interests? Wow, what a shocker that would be. And why do you expect him to represent them pro bono? That's just a silly comment.

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on August 12, 2008 at 7:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

6 bucks -

I think one is a "real" picture, and one is from the yearbook it looks like.The grainy once just looks like a year book picture enlarged. Yeah, King does look super young in that picture - like you said, like 6 or 7 years old.

Posted by OxnardNative on August 12, 2008 at 7:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rico, unless Pell is paying YOU, you should not defend HIM. He's a lawyer, a divorce lawyer and like most lawyers, he too is a crook. Silly or not, it's my comment and you could refer yours to the story and do yourself some good. :-) I refer mine to the story until someone lashes out at me. This comment section is for YOUR comments ON THE STORY, not to comment on my comments!

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on August 12, 2008 at 7:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

*BTW* I predict 150+ Comments, this will certainly be the topic of discussion today.

Posted by UncleRico on August 12, 2008 at 7:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok, Oxnard, lets run the syllogism:

lawyers = crooks
D.A.s = lawyers
D.A.s = crooks

Posted by RebelGal on August 12, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That is a really good observation about the pictures. What I noticed was that they mentioned that king did not live at home. Where did he live?

What ever happened to beating kids up.... do you remember that? you had your bullys in middle school and everyone would run away from them. Now we have to be worried about them bringing a gun to school??????? I know there is no excuse, but I do believe there is a reason. Why weren't the parents more involved in their childrens life? I am not saying only for McInerney though, I mean King too. If the parents talked to him about his innapropriate behavior this could have been avoided.

It is an anomally with child deaths, they all become saints when they pass away. If you can chose your sexuallity you can take some responsibility. I am NOT saying he deserved to but shoot I think that is a terrible tragdy. But honestly. How involved were the parents in their childs' lives?

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 8:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

wow, Oxnardnative...did I read that correctly, you are wishing the death of a child on that lawyer because he is doing his job?!? You're SICK!

I agree about the pictures, talk about skewing things a bit...I know Larry was small, but he looks very young there. Where is his yearbook picture?

I am glad that this was released for the sake of Brandon getting a fair trial, I think those documents may hold alot of information that we are all simply speculating upon.

Posted by RebelGal on August 12, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JuniorMafia you hit the nail on the head

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Exactly, JuniorMafia. We couldn't be more on the same page with this issue...

Posted by 805m0mma on August 12, 2008 at 8:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am sure Steve Pell approached the King Family...he is an "ambulance chaser"! I hope he does represent the Family in a positive way...Ventura Court has NO respect for Pell. (I know first hand, he represented my ex and falsified a good portion of the paperwork, I had the original documents he didn't realize it until I came forth with them!)

Posted by 805m0mma on August 12, 2008 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jr-My exact thoughts!

Posted by peternick on August 12, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They can allow Mr. Quest, or anyone else for that matter, to look at Larry King's records, criminal or otherwise, and it should not change anything! This is about MURDER. The facts are what they are. One had a gun, one did not. One planned what he was going to do that day, the other obviously didn't because he didn't take anything to school to defend himself with. One carried out his criminal act, the other didn't even know it was coming. Larry did not plan to die that day. Brandon planned to kill him. Brandon did not exhaust his options if, in fact, Larry was harassing him. He is being tried in an adult court because of the seriousness of the crime. If he were tried in a juvenile court, he would get out by the time he is 25. That is not enough time to fit the crime he committed. Can he really be rehabilitated? At the age of 14 many ways of thinking are already learned. I think it would take more than 11 years to "unlearn" them. Larry does not have the opportunity to "unlearn" anything he may have been doing that was not acceptable. Brandon took care of that. There will be no winners here. If things go the way they should, Brandon will have time in prison to come to terms with what he has done, be remorseful, and ask God for forgiveness. If he gets out, he can still have a life. If he doesn't, eternity is a long time. It is more important how he "lives" there. May God Bless and guide everyone involved here. I invite Larry's family to attend a Parents of Murdered Children support group meeting to help with their grief. At a time when you think NOTHING can help, they do. My family and I have been members for about two years.
Sincerely,
Barbara Serrano
Peter Nick's Mom

Posted by imonlysayin on August 12, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hotwildflower - There was an article written about this case in Newsweek that said he had been living with a foster family and when his behavior got to be too much, he moved into Casa Pacifica and that's where he was when he died I believe.

Posted by OxnardNative on August 12, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let me clarify for hotwildflower and slkrchck; I meant that the defense attorney should understand better what he's defending and if he were in the shoes of the plaintiffs he might not be so eager to get McInerney off easy. I am not sick and would NOT wish the death of a loved one upon any human being. (I should know I've been on the end of King's family at least one time in my life when I suffered a tragic loss as a teen age child) Why can't we simply stick to the topic at hand and not bash each other? McInerney and the one whose gun he used to commit this crime are the only two who really deserve any bashing in my personal opinion. Besides attorneys in general that is! :-) But that's my personal beef and I probably should not express that here. Please let me say I am sorry for that and for offending any innocent individuals, here and now.

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

thank you, imonlysain. I did read that article and while I had an issue with a second child being "thrown away" due to this tragic event prior to that, that story cemented my opinion.

As JM stated above, what Brandon did was horrible, he should be punished, but to send him away for 51 years is just wrong. That is the loss of two children because they were failed by their parents.

Posted by OxnardNative on August 12, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks 805 m0mma, at least YOU understand, knowing Pell much like I do! Nicks Mom, everything you say is the "should". Today however in this day and age, don't be surprised if these so called attorneys don't twist everything so badly that the total opposite occurs?!?! :-(

Posted by imonlysayin on August 12, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Here is the link to the Newsweek story in case anyone is interested: http://www.newsweek.com/id/147790

OxnardNative: You contradict yourself quite well. In your first post you say: "defense lawyer ought to lose a child by way of a murderous teen who commits a hate crime."

and in your last post you say: "am not sick and would NOT wish the death of a loved one upon any human being."

Sure sounds to me like you hope this attorney's child is murdered.

People come to this board to comment on the story and to discuss it with other people. There are always going to be disagreements, but to say that we're not supposed to address other people's comments completely dismisses the fact that this is a "discussion board"

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 8:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I appreciate your explanation, Oxnardnative, however, it would be a pretty tough job if every lawyer had to experience first hand the horrific events of what they were defending. Remember, a lawyer is there to assist with someone being seen as innocent until proven guilty. While it's pretty well known this individual is guilty...there are many defense attorneys out defending innocent people.

Posted by OxnardNative on August 12, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hotwildflower, I thin parents typically don't fail as often as many may suspect. I think they do the best they can to "influence" their children and the rest is up to the child themselves. Parents don't "control" children. We used to be able to influence our children in a way that was positive and successful, however today in this day and age and with attorneys like the ones in this case battling AGAINST you not for right and wrong but more for personal benefit/prosperity, you cannot even SAY some things to your child without becoming a criminal yourself.

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe that is subject to interpretation. I have two kids myself and yes...I punished them when they were younger. I believe a bigger crime is to not punish bad behavior and reward good behavior. My kids are now 13 and 11 and the extend of correcting them I have to do now is reminding them to speak to me with respect and that is rare.

Parents have the ability to be parents, there are too many who blame the law for their lack of parenting. Stand up for your rights to parent and raise productive kids.

Posted by OxnardNative on August 12, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

imonlysayin...SO AM I! Let's get back to the topic at hand. Larry's gone and Brandon's guilty of the crime of murder in the 1st degree and should be punished to the full extent of the law. Larry got a life sentence correct? Why would anyone defend a MURDERER if not for personal gain???

Posted by OxnardNative on August 12, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hotwildflower, I DO, all 6 of mine, within the law.

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, being a parent is the greatest blessing any person can recieve. Some (and far too many in my opinion) treat it like a burden.

Posted by mal1910 on August 12, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree juniormafia. I believe he needs to be punished, but for how long and to what extent?? I try and look at this on both sides, but I'm torn.

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on August 12, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Junior, my dear -
We always agree to disagree with this subject :)
You look at him as "moldable" and think that he can be rehabilitated most likely with "some" jail time and counseling, etc.

I look at it as this could be just the begining of what a young mind may be capable of in the future. What if this is just the start of what he may do if he is out on the streets as an adult? Either way, you can look at it as a young child making a mistake, or a 14 year old perfectly old enough to know that killing is wrong and to top it off, which really gets to me, is that it was pre-meditated. Not cool.

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oxnard, I am not attacking you or directing parenting issues at you. I am suggesting that these two were failed by parents who didn't realized the blessings they had.

Posted by imonlysayin on August 12, 2008 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OxnardNative: If Pell wasn't on this case, would you even be commenting on this? Your problem seems to lie with him being the attorney on this case and not the case itself.

Yes, Brandon is a murderer...and there's no excusing what he did. I think what everyone is saying is that he's only 14. I look at my 14 year old neices and nephews and couldn't imagine watching them be locked up for a life sentence.

I agree with jr and I think that if there's a way to help this child and rehabilitate him so that he can someday become a contributing part of our society than I say go for it.

We're so quick to throw away lives because it seems like the right thing to do...but I really think that in this case it's wrong to think he deserves to be sent away for life.

Yes, he deserves to be punished, but not for a life sentence.

Posted by brwnoso on August 12, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

junior, I agree with you, but he should be held accountable for what he did too.

Posted by grammadee on August 12, 2008 at 9:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just an fyi folks...Attorney Steve Pell sat with Larry King's family at Larry's funeral. Right up there in the front row. Hmm...

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

HuenemeGirl, I think the belief that he can be rehabilitated has to do with the fact that he was an honor roll student in honors classes, hadn't been in trouble before, was involved in team sports etc. He hadn't been a problem child escalating to this. He wasn't acting out, he wasn't harming animals and so on.

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on August 12, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gm hotwildflower-

I see your point, but to me, it's scary that someone that had all of that going for him - SNAPPED. That to me is one, extremely unstable individual.

Posted by rebel123 on August 12, 2008 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OxnardNative: you are way out of line with respect to suggesting the defense attorney should lose a child. Everyone in this country is entitled to the best defense possible regardless of their crime. His attorney has to do everything he can within the law to defend him. If he leaves any stone unturned, then subsequent appeals will have grounds for retrial. I am so tired of people declaring attorneys to be crooks. The jury decides the verdict, remember? And the DA presents the case as well. The judge keeps it all fair and makes sure the rules that we the people have put in place are followed. Quit slamming lawyers. The judge says Larry's records are open. There is nothing in those records that mitigates what Brandon did. His attorney is doing what he has to.

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good morning! :)

I understand your fear and it's legitimate. I would hope that the rehabilitation process would include counseling to identify what made him "snap" and learn how to cope with uncomfortable situations. You have to suspect that with what he had been exposed to previously with his parents, he hadn't learned how to cope properly but he deserves a chance.

Posted by JEH on August 12, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oxnardnative: Last time I checked The law office of Steve Pell was more than just divorce. They handle lots of different cases. They have a great record of protecting their clients, isnt that what they are supposed to do? They are protecting the rights of a dead child, and his family. Why do you need to drag your biased opinion of their choice in lawyers into it?

Posted by daugtherofimmigrant on August 12, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JM- does anyone that comes out of jail come out rehabilitated?
The truth is that he is 14 and knows right from wrong and he knew their would be consequences, he planned Larry's death, he shot Larry not once but twice on the back with no chance for Larry to run or defend himself in any way.

Unfortunately these two kids did not live with their parents, what I read in the past was Mclerney had an abusive parent, and then moved in with the grandparents.
Truth of the matter is everyone failed these kids. Parents, schools, counselors and everyone around them.
I read somewhere that E.O. Greene principal allowed Larry to dress and flaunt that he was gay, I believe the prinicipal is also gay (not 100% sure, but I know I read it somewhere) perhaps this principal was trying to make a statment through Larry, don't know. If King was disrupting his class and harassing other kids, it was the faculty and the principal's responsibility to do something about this and they didn't, THEY FAILED! For their actions or better yet lack of actions, they will have to live with this for the rest of their lives and Not only them but the children that saw Larry get shot, that is not fair. In some way the faculty should be held responsible as well. Our childern are their responsibility when at school, we should feel like our children are safe at school, yet two families were called that day to let them know that one was dead and the other shot him.

Posted by OxnardNative on August 12, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Look we obviously have an attorney commenting here now. Or at least someone whose related to one in some way shape or form! Welcome aboard rebel123 :-) Where would you stand if you were related to the victim in this case?

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have a question, I was not there (obviously) and I don't know guns at all, but people bring up the fact that Brandon shot twice...is it possible that the second shot was automatic?

I mean, the second shot is brought up quite a bit as if it makes the shooting worse that there were two bullets instead of one, so I just wonder if the second was delayed and intentional or just automatic?

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on August 12, 2008 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JM-
Would you want to live next to someone that killed another individual?

Posted by OxnardNative on August 12, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JEH, it's all dollors and cents. Have you had any dealings with Pell or know anyone that has?

Posted by OxnardNative on August 12, 2008 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hotwildflower Brandon pulled the trigger two times. I seriously doubt that matters though in all honesty, but I am sure SOMEONE will comment on or disagree with that here. I think the crime was commited after the first shot and more than likely killed Larry instantly.

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ditto, JM

Posted by Latina_805 on August 12, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree Jr. Then again maybe we do and don't even know it.

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually, I think the second shot could play a part in intent.

It could matter in court if it was intentional or not. I don't know...but maybe.

Living next to a member of the military was a great example, Pog.

Posted by daugtherofimmigrant on August 12, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JM - I totally hear what you are saying, this is just very hard, I try to put myself in these two situations, but clearly we here think very different than the parents of these two boys, these parents didn't do their job, they had someone else take care of their responsibilities.

Now we have Larry's dad or relative wanting to sue the principal that helped Larry flont he was gay. Where was he when Larry was obviously having a difficult time? I haven't heard much from Mclerney's parents or relatives but these two families failed or at least failed to continue show love and support. A child will always test us as parents, I would never abondon my child or let someone else take care of them and I walk away. Hell no, I would have my child with me, who better than a mother to care and understand a child.

If Mclerney was my child would I believe he could be helped, saved or rehabilitated, heck yeah but because he is my son, and although he did the worst thing anyone can do, I still believe he was a good kid But if Larry was my child would I want Mclerney to spend 30 years in jail, of course because I would believe my kid was a good kid and this other boy committed a hate crime towards my child.

This is a very difficult case.

The only truth is that everyone around these two kids knew about the problem and not enough was done. These two kids knew what they were doing and they knew it was wrong, and here we are now giving our two cents on this case.

Would I live next door to someone who has been in prison all or most of their life? Good Lord I live in S.P. does that answer your question?

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on August 12, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why the heck are they showing a picture of a lil 7 year old boy, it is DISGUSTING!

Respect the deseased!

Posted by daugtherofimmigrant on August 12, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JM - I would like to believe that this boy would be counseled and rehabilitated. I don't know all or actually anything that this kid is going through now if he has repented for what he did or if he is being treated and counseled. I would like to believe so that something is being done.

What if he does get a linient sentence, treated and everything else and does something crazy again?
I am a firm believer in 2nd chances but this is scary. Either way this boy is going to be out one day and who knows what his future will hold for him.

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on August 12, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why are people worried about Brandon getting a lenient sentence. He will not. He is being tried as an adult, leniency was thrown out the window then.

Is it a hate crime when a Gay person harasses a Straight person? Anybody?

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How many adults go our driving drunk and kill someone and get 3 years? Isn't that premeditated? They knew they were wrong, they knew they were drunk, they knew they had to drive home...and they were legally adults.

Posted by BeaHappi on August 12, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

daugtherofimmigrant...very good posts. I totally agree with you. This is just a very difficult situation.

Posted by Comments on August 12, 2008 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm very glad to hear that the defense will be able to review all the records. I'm not as thrilled to hear that the judge is going to review them 1st and then pass along what he feels is pertinent. Regardless of what anyone thinks of this case, I would hope that most would agree that a defense attorney should be able to have access to all details in order to defend his client. No, not to "blame the victim," but to best defend his client. Each and every one of us should be happy to see the law working as it's supposed to. And, by that I mean having lawyers involved representing all sides of the issue.

It seems as though Oxnardnative and some others here have a personal beef with Pell. Too bad - get over it and move on - your issue has nothing to do with this case. Someone obviously felt he was capable of representing Larry's interests (or really the family or his memory - since he's no longer alive and what interests does he really have?) and that's what he's doing.

OxnardNative your initial comments were extreme and inappropriate, which is why folks commented on your comment. To wish the death of a child on someone just so they can know how it feels, is absolutely worthy of discussion. I'm sure you didn't mean it the way it came across, but we all are responsible for our words. Just like drs can't experience all the treatments they provide, attorneys surely can't have experienced all the hardships those they represent have experienced.

I don't know Rebel23 but I'm assuming she (or he?) isn't a lawyer. Just a level headed person and voice of reason.

Posted by Latina_805 on August 12, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In no shape is Brandon a monster like people are trying to conceive him. The columbine killers, or the asian guy at the college who also went on a shooting spree those shooters planned it and there aim was to kill. I agree that Brandon should be held accountable for his actions. Some, more than others know how it was to get bullied in middle school or just being a teenager. Unfortunetly now a days teenagers are not the same, nor is violence. Guns are everywhere and unfortunetly to easy for Brandon's reach. Should he had turned somewhere else than resort to violence? Absolutely! I don't believe Brandon is a bad kid, but he did murder Larry and that is something that you can't erase. This is a situation I would hate to be on a jury for because my heart aches for both families.

Posted by Comments on August 12, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh and I totally agree with the comments related to the pictures of these two boys. Brandon's picture looks almost like a mug shot, while Larry's picture looks like an elementary school picture. Media folk know how images can impact public thought and it's odd that they chose these two photos.

Posted by flmrmom on August 12, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"The columbine killers, or the asian guy at the college who also went on a shooting spree those shooters planned it and there aim was to kill."

Latina, So Brandon putting that gun in his back pack that morning, carrying it to school, pulling it out of his backpack in class, pointing it at Larry's head and pulling the trigger was not planned? I don't see how any of that was not planned. And pointing the gun at the back of his head point blank and pulling the trigger, do you really think he was not aiming to kill?

Posted by daugtherofimmigrant on August 12, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Latina - the only difference between Colombine and Brandon, was that Brandon only killed one kid. If you recall the Colombine kids also claimed to be bullied.
Brandon did plan this, as a matter of fact he told another kid that Larry was going to get it. He knew where to find the gun, he had plenty of time to back out of what he had planned, he sat there, pretended to read a book, sat behind Larry and watched him, he planned it so carefully that no one realized what he was going to do when he got up and pulled that gun out. He didn't shoot him once, but twice this kid shot to kill. There is no question that this was planned.

You are right about kids not being the same, therefore us as parents have to work even harder, communicate and act when we see our kids behaving different, not assuming that kids will be kids.
A good way of finding out what is going on with your kid is through MY Space. So many parents hate it and I disagree, I love it, why? Because I see who my daughter is talking to, what about, and what is going on with the other kids. I monitor her. Involve yourself with their school, sports, and other activities. This is also a good way to meet and get a feel for the kids that are around your kids, meet the kids parents.

My daughter knows that she can not get away with anything I mean she can, if I allow it or drop the ball, she says she is going to a friends house, I call the parent to make sure the parents are their. Wants to watch a movie with friends, I drop her off, make sure she goes in. One time I dropped by and sat way in the back, watching her, she caught me, and I was glad she did, she now knows that one day I will drop by again, and she better be where she says she is, OR ELSE.
She says she doesn't mind it because she knows I am doing it for her own good and not because I don't trust her. Sometimes I tell her to call a couple of her friends and we go out to eat, you wouldn't believe the stuff they talk about not realizing you are listening.

Alot of people dropped the ball with these kids and now these are the consequences.

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on August 12, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Junior, Sorry, I'm late to respond, came home sick from work *yuk!*
Here is what you said:

"I'd rather live next to a guy that killed someone as a kid and has been rehabilitated and extensively counseled... I would not like to live next to a murderer that spent 30 of his 45 years of life in prison."

In this, I do see your point, however, do you note how you said "a guy that killed someone" and then said "a murderer". If you simply "killed someone", I see, you accidently hit someone while riding his bike, this would be a tragic accident (license plate number XXXXXXX black infiniti lol, thank god you werent killed) or you MURDERED someone. I lived next door to a detective 2 years ago that killed someone, he was intruding into a neighbors house, she screamed, and he heard it and killed the guy. Now that, I think may be justified. But, deliberatly bringing a gun to school, shooting someone in the head........twice, now come on my dear Jr- that is murder. We can go round and round with this all day. That's all I'm going to say on this topic, for today :) and I was WAY off so far with my number of posts I predicted. Another poster thought 200, we'll see by the end of the day!

Posted by FirstAmmendment on August 12, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VCStarislame, juniormafia,
The individual you are referring to was not a counselor. She was an Assistant Principal at E.O. Green who was given the Principal position at Sunkist Elementary. Yes, she is openly gay and even has pictures of her partner and their son on her desk! Many believe her involvement led to the escalation of the problems involving Larry and Brandon due to her lack thereof disciplining King for his transgressions. It will all come out during the trial though. Just wait and see....

Posted by flmrmom on August 12, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I absolutely agree that both these boys were failed by thier parents and the school administrators. However, I don't agree with down playing the severity and the brutality of this crime because Brandon had a bad home life. I was watching KEYT news this morning and there was a story on a 15 yr old gang member on trial (as an adult) for murdering another teen. He is being tried as an adult and could also receive a life sentence if convicted. It's a pretty open & shut case because there were plenty of witnesses. No one is trying to get this guy a lighter sentence or saying he should be tried as a juvenile. How is this case different?

Posted by cslaurie on August 12, 2008 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Last time I checked a lawyer owes his client the very best defense he can put on. Believe me the victim will be on trial before there is a verdict.

Posted by nelsonknows on August 12, 2008 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why is E.O. Green School not being investigated? According to both Title 9, U.S. Code and California Statute, faculty and administration are both Mandatory Reporters of ALL sexual harassment. If there was sexual harassment and E.O. Green School was in any way aware of this, the school is complicit for not reporting this crime.
http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/...

Posted by Comments on August 12, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Er, FirstAmmendment I too read the article discussing the asst principal at EO Green. And, from what I read (she has yet to be able to speak for herself) I do think that she handled this situation poorly. It seems however that you feel that the fact that she's gay was an issue. Your comment, "she is openly gay and even has pictures of her partner and their son on her desk!" is a big tell. Who cares that she was openly gay? And, who cares that she kept a picture of her partner and child on her desk? Do other faculty members or administrators have photos of their significant others and children on their desks? Are you suggesting a ban of that for everyone? Good grief, the woman is entitled to show off her family like anyone else. Surely a mere family photo was not a contributing factor. Her behaviors and counseling of Larry on the other hand appear to be somewhat questionable. Again, she has been advised not to speak since she will be called to testify at trial. I for one am eager to hear what she has to say. From everything that has been reported it is clear to me that Larry was failed by most of the adults in his life. The same goes for Brandon. The school administration clearly did not know how to handle the situation and their lack of action helped perpetuate this problem. Brandon definitely holds all the responsbility as he's the one who took the gun to school and shot to kill Larry. However, there's no doubt at all in my mind that the school admin as well as the parents are culpable as well.

Posted by prd2beamrkn on August 12, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oxnardnative

I take offense that all lawyers are crooks, that too is a stupid comment. So funny how everyone bashes them until they need one. Maybe next time you need to defend yourself, cuz you are so smart!

Posted by teadream on August 12, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree juniormafia. It's wrong what was done, and I also believe he needs to be punished, but serving behind bar for 51 years to life to a 14 years old kid, it's just too sad.

Posted by Comments on August 12, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nelsonknows, how do you know they're NOT being investigated? Obviously, and naturally the main focus of the story is the murder of one child by another. However, that doesn't mean that authorities (both school and police) aren't investigating the school as well. And, you can be sure that the attorneys on both sides will be doing the same.

Posted by ffcfkt on August 12, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hotwildflower

I don't think the issue is weather or not he can be rehabilitated, it's weather or not he should. He lost his right to rehabilitation when he too Larry's life. I have said it before and I'll say it again, as soon as Larry gets a second chance I'm more than happy to give Brandon one. While I do not support the death penalty, I do subscribe to the argument of many death penalty proponents. When you choose to take the life of another, yours is forefit. I simply believe you deserve a lifetime of punishment.

Posted by getreal on August 12, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Larry was really as small and fragile as the piture makes him out to be. Right after his murder I visited the families web site and all of his pictures looked similar to the one posted int his article.

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on August 12, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Junior, email me your phone #

Posted by flmrmom on August 12, 2008 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes but according to people who support Brandon, at 15 this gang member was not capable of knowing the full extent of his actions or the consequences. He is not mature enough at this age to understand what he was doing.
Isn't this what is being said about Brandon?

Posted by prd2beamrkn on August 12, 2008 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Me too!

Posted by Latina_805 on August 12, 2008 at 2:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm on Brandon's 'side'... but I don't think that he shoud be tried as an adult. Nothing will justify Larry's death but to give him 51 yrs? I don't think he should be held accountable 100%. Everything needs to be put in the equation and I think in the end be given a linient sentence.

Posted by flmrmom on August 12, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm sure the jury will be just as torn over this case as all of us on here are.
And I'm still on Larry's side. Although no matter what the outcome of the trial is, Larry is still gone forever, Brandon is still alive. I just hope that no one else ever teases him or offends him because we already know how he handles those situations.
I pray for both families.

Posted by Latina_805 on August 12, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm **NOT on

Posted by BeaHappi on August 12, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If Brandon was a gang-banger and everything else in the story was the same, more people would be calling for him to be tried as an adult.

I'm not on anyones side; this entire thing is just tragic. One kid is dead and another has so much anger in him that he could calmly plan and carry out a murder.

As for his sentence...what will ever be enough? Nothing will undo what has been done - Larry is not coming back. So what's the "right" amount of time that should be served? My guess is that the percentage of inmates who are "reformed" in prison is relatively low.

I would not want to be on the jury that has to deal with all of this.

Posted by imonlysayin on August 12, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm confused. And I'm only asking this because I am confused.

Someone mentioned that Larry was sexually harassing Brandon or other students. What was he doing that is considered sexual harassment? Was it dressing like a girl? Or was he running around hitting on other boys, taunting them?

Posted by rebel123 on August 12, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VenturaNative: I am not a lawyer nor am I married to one or related to any. I am simply stating the facts. Painting all attorneys with a broad brush and calling them crooks is ridiculous. The defense attorney has an obligation to provide the very best defense possible. You should be very glad that Brandon's attorney is doing the very best he can, because you can be darn sure that when he's found guilty he will appeal. If there is any cause what so ever to conclude his attorney did anything less than provide for the best defense, he'll get a new trial at tax payer's expense. Everyone gets so pissed when an attorney takes a case that seems cut and dried like this one but you seem to forget that the DA presents the people's case and the jury decides the verdict while the judge makes sure the laws that we the PUBLIC put in place are followed during the course of the trial. Until such time that this country decides that the cops and the DA alone decide who is innocent or guilty, defense attorneys are a vital part of keeping our judicial system honest. If the DA is also a lawyer but I don't hear you bashing him/her.

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on August 12, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

flmrmom

are you serious? there are HUGE differences. if you can't comprehend them.....you may need to go back to school... assuming from your name your a mother and have already completed High School and/or College. Pay attention this time around.

Posted by flmrmom on August 12, 2008 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bea, I agree with you, I would not want to be on this jury. And there is nothing good that can come out of this, two teenage lives are lost. So sad!
Hotwildflower said it best, being a parent is the best blessing anyone can receive. My heart goes out to all the kids out there that don't have loving and caring parents to guide and love them. I'm sure if that was the case with these two boys, we wouldn't have a story to comment about.

Posted by imonlysayin on August 12, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bea - Your statement about if Brandon was in a gang people's opinions would be different is correct for most people. But not me. Even when there has been a gang shooting and the people involved were under 16 years old, I don't like seeing them going to prison for the rest of their life.

I don't like seeing *any* life wasted, including that of a 16 and under child. Just because they *act* like adults when they do these murderous acts, doesn't mean that they in fact *are* adults and should be treated like one.

When it comes down to it, that's what Brandon is...he's a *child* and he's a child who just happened to commit premeditated murder, I know that...I understand that...I also understand that he is a *child* and should be treated like one.

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on August 12, 2008 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

getreal

Get this, my friend saw Brandon in court, and said he was nothing but a little boy. Not the 6 foot tall 200+ that some people are claiming he is.

I am not on anyones side. I just hope for a fair trial, not a lynch mob on a child!

Too bad we can't get bullies in trouble for threats, the school district DOES NOTHING (i know for a fact) and the VPD told me the school has to file the report...so GET WITH IT VUSD and stop sukn so much!

I was at the point of taking matters in my own hands to protect my son, I wanted to beat the living crap out of this boy's parents.

But then my retaliation would what.....end me in the pokey.

You bullies know who you are, and karma will prevail.

Posted by flmrmom on August 12, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Livin, your insults only reflect your own ignorance, grow up.

Posted by BeaHappi on August 12, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

imonlysayin...I completely understand. It is tragic that so many young people commit violent acts...before they're even old enough to drive, vote, or buy a beer!

I don't know what the "right" amount of time is for Brandon in regards to a sentence. I mean, what's the goal? Obviously he has punishment coming to him for the act. But do we hope to rehabilitate him, figure out his angry soul, what?

I wonder if he even feels remorse. And not remorse because he was caught; but true remorse for taking the life of another kid.

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on August 12, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

imonlysayin

sad and very unfortunate, the chances on rehabilitating a gang memeber are very scarce, that is the life they know, that is there family. especially if the gang member is a "minority" (whatever that is anymore) they sometime feel they dont have any respect or the opprotunities to succeed.

I know people in LAPD, they shoot gang members to kill, they are consdered the scum of the earth. LAPD don't like killers out on the streets much.

VPD/OXPD just lets them go free to kill/rape/steal/deal

Posted by imonlysayin on August 12, 2008 at 3:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bea - not only is it tragic, but it's scary. Someone told me that 10 is the new 15 and 5 is the new 10. I have no idea how serious they were, but the more articles I read about youth violence, the more I see how it could be true.

As for the right amount of punishment, there's no doubt that he should be held accountable for his actions, but like you, I have no idea what that includes. I would like to think that having had all this time to think about it he's found remorse and is truly sorry for what he did.

At some point, you would think that he must be traumatized in some way for what he did and he's going to need counseling and therapy if there's any hope for him to rehabilitate.

Either way, this case can't get any sadder. The potential either one of these boys had is wasted on a meaningless crime.

Posted by imonlysayin on August 12, 2008 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Livin - you're right. Children are shadows of the people who raise them and unfortunately gang members breed more gang members and the ages for gang initiation keep getting younger and younger.

That doesn't stop me from feeling the way I feel about young children being sent away to prison for a lifetime because they've done something that adults have taught them is appropriate.

It's a vicious cycle and one that doesn't seem likely to slow down.

In this particular case, I don't know what made Brandon think the only way to solve his problem was to kill Larry. Obviously the school didn't do everything they could've or should've done to protect them from eachother, but where did Brandon get the gun and who or what showed him that killing was the answer?

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LivinInPoorMansPV, if your son is having a problem, why not address it to the school in writing, make them be held accountable. Fax the letter to them and retain the confirmation so you know it was received.

The buck is passed way too much...

Posted by LivinInPoorMansPV on August 12, 2008 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks HOTWF! My son is now 18, and no longer the wimpy 8th grader at ANACAPA MS having his life threatened on a daily basis.

flmrmom, I will never grow up , I WON'T I WON'T I WON'T!

I dont really agree with this "gang members breed more gang members" but kids that have too much time on there hands may turn to "the dark side". Very very sad.

Now that I think of it, the boy who bullied my son, ANACAPA MS was his last resort, he had been pretty much kicked out of all the local area schools and he was supposed to be in HS, he was a year older than the rest of his class....allot like Larry.

Trust me I asked my son everyday when I'd come home to find him scared and crying, where this boy lived! But I am a woman, and I have that thing called control, and never did anything about it.

Posted by BeaHappi on August 12, 2008 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If my child was being bullied at school and nothing was being done about it, I'd be sitting my a$$ there everyday until something was done.

I'd also have no problem contacting the bully's parents to see if this was something that they could assist with.

You're right hotwildflower...the buck does get passed way too much.

Posted by hotwildflower on August 12, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LivinInPoorMansPV, you have far more control than I would have!

I would have been at the school to pick my kid up and follow the bully home...but that's me.

Posted by LopezLuis5003 on August 12, 2008 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lock him up with maximum sentence. He took someones life!!!!! Even if the "gay" kid was hitting on him or sexually harrasing him there are plenty of ways to deal with the issue. Plenty of adults and administrators to help him out. Killing someone is never the answer he needs to learn that.

Posted by Comments on August 12, 2008 at 5:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LopezLuis, I agree that there is no excuse for what Brandon did. He murdered Larry - that's clear. However, there were extenuating circumstances and it's only right that Brandon's attorney have all the information from Larry's records provided to him. You stated that Brabndon had, "plenty of adults and administrators to help him out." It's true that there were many administrators and adults in his life, but it's also true that they all sadly failed him as well as Larry. If you have been following the story it's abundantly clear that the administration at the school did nothing to help stop the tension that was building between the two boys. Indeed, they admitted that they had no idea how to handle the situation and teachers were told to not do anything. That's a shame. Would the outcome have been different if the adults had gotten involved? Who knows. Perhaps Brandon would've still snapped and killed Larry. Perhaps though the tensions may have been dispersed. Know one really knows. And it's true that it doesn't really change the fact that Brandon did indeed kill Larry. This particular story was about Larry's records being made available to the defense. I agree with that particular ruling. Like many others here I hope more than anything that I'm not selected for this jury. No matter what I don't think that I could convict a child knowing he'd be sentenced for 51 years.

Posted by SoSad on August 12, 2008 at 9:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm glad I already served my jury duty.

What will happen if Brandon gets off with just a slap on the wrist? Will we be reading more articles in the STAR similar to this?

Posted by einahpets on August 12, 2008 at 10:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Excellent comment COMMENTS
"And, who cares that she kept a picture of her partner and child on her desk? Do other faculty members or administrators have photos of their significant others and children on their desks? Are you suggesting a ban of that for everyone?"

Why is that such an issue that the AP was gay. Who cares? What matters is her role with the student. Alot was hearsay in the Newsweek article. We will have to wait till the trial. Until then shame on those we right away pass judgement on her because of her sexuality. Its people like you ,who model such ignorance , is why we have kids like Brandon.

Come on now...kids look at adult behavior. We need to be mentors.

Brandon does not deserve 51 years. He deserves a sentence but not 51 years. He can be rehabilitated.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on August 12, 2008 at 10:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Larry's parents are to be commended for doing their best to provide love, structure and support during Larry's lifetime. It is not they who gave him the disruptive early childhood that fueled his reactive attachment disorder. It was his birth parents. The Kings endured what only those of us who have worked with or fostered children with severe behavioral challenges can understand. As to why the situation at the school was allowed to get out of control, look to the one person involved who let a personal agenda get in the way of managerial common sense, state law notwithstanding.

Posted by Joesombody on August 12, 2008 at 11:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

maximum sentence

Posted by NavalAviator on August 12, 2008 at 11:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why did Mr. McInerney not just beat the cr-ap out of King when he first pulled that bs, and every time there after? Oh, he would have been expelled? Well, perhaps, but Mr. King would now only be missing a few teeth, not dead.

What has happened to boys fighting to defend themselves? When did guns become the only option?

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on August 13, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

CatInAHat, many have asked the same question. If Brandon had beat up Larry, there is a reasonable assumption that he would have been charged criminally and also with hate crime enhancements ... just because. If course, he wouldn't be expected to know that, would he? The hate crime laws have lawyers arguing about what somebody is thinking at the time of the crime. That goes beyond reasonableness. If, during an assault, the perp espouses racial epithets or is caught in the act of graffiti vandalism of a synagogue, it is a different story. In this case, it may be that simply because Larry claimed to be gay, Brandon was charged. To make hate crime allegations stick, The DA should have more than that. The DA is smart, so I'd assume there is much more than we yet know. I'm not so disturbed by murder charges in adult court because it appears to be murder. That said, shouldn't we punish criminals for their acts and not their thoughts? I like adult court because I don't believe in the secrecy of juvenile court when juveniles commit major felonies. San Francisco has felt the pain of treating juvenile violent offenders as a special class. I am disturbed by the hate crime enhancement and I truly believe that the former vice principal may owe some accountability to the people for failing as a manager. Instead, she was promoted and our hard earned tax dollars continue to feed her. Point out where I am wrong ... or where I am correct.

Posted by VOR on August 13, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice to know the Peter Principle is alive and well in today's world. I am sure once the truth comes out her promotion will be very temporary in nature. The gross negligence in the way she handled Larry and Brandon and other teachers complaints and letting this whole thing get out of hand is criminal and she should be made to suffer some sort of penalty for her actions.

Posted by VOR on August 13, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Interesting article about a murderer that was just put to death in Texas. Seems he brought a gun to school at age 14 and fired it. Then shot at cars at age 16. By all means we should give Brandon a slap on the hand and prosecute him as a juvenile so that when he gets out he too can maybe kill some more people in a convenience store and then a few more people at a video store. I am sorry, but it should be a very very very long time if ever before he sees daylight. I guess he should be thankful this is not Texas.

A twice-convicted killer with a history of violence that continued even after he was sent to death row was executed Tuesday for gunning down two video store workers during a robbery 14 years ago in Dallas.

He was pronounced dead nine minutes after the lethal drugs began to flow.

Cold case
Dorsey already was in prison, serving 60 years after pleading guilty to killing a woman during a convenience store robbery, when a Dallas police cold case squad gathered enough evidence to tie him to the unsolved shooting deaths four years earlier of James Armstrong, 26, and Brad Lindsey, 20, at a Blockbuster Video store in East Dallas where they worked.

Evidence showed Dorsey, who called himself "Pistol Pete," cased the place on Easter Sunday night in 1994, then returned after midnight to steal $392 from a cash register. He shot the workers when Armstrong had difficulty opening a safe at gunpoint and Lindsey tried to run.

Most of the crime was recorded on security cameras in the store.

When the case was reopened in 1998, Dallas authorities had the tape analyzed by the FBI and determined Dorsey could have been the gunman.

Five months after the video store killings, Dorsey killed a 51-year-old Korean woman, Hyon Suk Chon, at the convenience store she managed in Ennis, south of Dallas. He was in prison for that slaying when he was questioned again about the double slaying and confessed.

'I've killed folks'
Dorsey also admitted the murders to a reporter in an interview from prison while he was awaiting trial.

"I've done cut folks; I've done stabbed folks; I've killed folks," he told The Dallas Morning News. "But it don't bother me."

Dorsey at age 12 moved to Waxahachie to live with his grandparents after he was booted from Germany where his mother was stationed in the Air Force. Records show when he was 14 he took a gun to school and fired it. At 16, he fired at a couple driving in a car.

"He'd walk down the street with a sawed-off shotgun tied to his arm and with a coat on and then just throw it open — just to see the reaction of people," Shook said. "He's a piece of work."

Posted by BabyzDaddy_01 on August 13, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've heard from sources fairly close to the situation that Brandon hung out with Neo-Nazi types. Follow me here: It could be considered a hate crime if this connection is established. One of the groups that Neo-Nazi's are against are the Gay/Lesbian community. If he acted violently against Larry because he felt offended or obligated to because of his beliefs, that could consitute a hate crime. Wouldn't it? Just like a gangmember from Colonia Chiques would get an elevated charge to "for the benefit of a criminal street gang" if he shot and killed a Southside Gangmember. The only difference is that Brandon did not shout out an anti-gay phrase nor did he flash any Neo-Nazi gang signs, but the intention is what should be looked at.

In the end, the act was merciless, premeditated, deliberate, violent and excessive, warranting a trial as an adult. If Brandon had beat up Larry so bad that he died as a result, then I'd not side with the Adult Trial because the intention was NOT to kill, only to harm and that could be "re-habbed"(IMHO). Unfortunately, what Brandon did was tell his classmate that he was going to kills Larry (premditated), shot Larry two times in the back of the head (deliberate, violent and merciless)....but if JR thinks he can re-hab someone that thinks this is an appropriate way to deal with confrontations, by all means JR. (I think you're wrong on this one bud)

Posted by opns on August 13, 2008 at 1:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Your absolutely correct Mr. Equitable - the Foster Parents should be commended whole heartedly for all of the efforts. I can't even imagine walking their shoes right now.
God bless the foster parents!

Posted by opns on August 13, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.topix.com/news/weird/2008/...

Speaking of Larry's clothing apparel -
(trying to be unbiased)
Was Brandon a Sagger?

Just Curious, see link...

Posted by opns on August 13, 2008 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jr. he would of killed somewhere in his future, regardless of being taunted or not - he's a murderer.

Posted by SoSad on August 13, 2008 at 4:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't want kids to think that if they dislike someone or are harassed that the only option they have is to kill the person. That is totally wrong!

Posted by kind1 on August 13, 2008 at 5:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Steve Pell is a screw up. He contacted my oldest step-brother, with a letter of demand, after my natural mother died and left half of her estate to one of the men who absolutely ruined my life and who agreed to pay me $200,000.00 for molesting me when I was a child. Then the case stalled, and when I went to his office, either he, or his schmuck Rusty, lost the file and had no further information for me. The only satisfaction I got, was, the piece of crap who poses as a human being, whose motto was "Vice is nice, but incest is best," my oldest step brother, admitted to another human being, that he did what he did to me, way back when. Too bad the file which documented it, got lost in Pell's office. Another problem was, all of our parents were already dead, and I am destitute, and my brothers live on in comfort. I would not trust Pell or his office to defend my pet dog, if I could afford a pet dog. My parents left this world never understanding why I had such a hard time coping. But I do 12-steps now, and my recovery is a healing thing. Just got to get enough serenity going to let go of my resentment towards Pell, et al, and the deep seated desire that my step-brother get the same treatment from some big monster freak of a bully, that he dished out to me. Any one wanna punk an old puke of a man? May my brother never come back from Florida where he ran to to escape further truth and fact finding. This is how things go down when the ones who are supposed to help you, also let you down. You take it upon yourself and sometimes you break. Also, Pell did mention that $200,000.00 was not much for what I suffered through. Duh. My child soul was forever different, the person I was born to be - gone forever.

Posted by opns on August 13, 2008 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kind1 - you are so brave to come out like this. I admire how you have come forth in healing. I don't blame you for feeling this way towards Pell, I would too.

Maybe your testimony here will enlighten others that while there are so many on death row for killing someone, and they probably also violated a child as well, but just not known of.
Child molesters are murderers, as they take away the very core of the being.
You are a survivor, and I commend you. Thank you for sharing something so sensitive.
So many people will never get it.
Respectfully yours,

Posted by kind1 on August 13, 2008 at 6:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thnx - you're only as sick as your secrets and the SOB who hurt me, has way more sick and lots more secrets than I do! There is healing in telling. Can you imagine his nightmares? Like me finding him and telling all his neighbors and forcing him to register as a sex offender?

I wish every child a safe person to take their troubles to, what ever their troubles are.

Took me all my life to get here, and the rest of my life to heal.

As for Pell... I am sure he has lost things also and wondered why. Sometimes we don't see how Karma works, or when. It just does.
Peace.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on August 14, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I still agree with JuniorMafia......
I truely believe this kid had a mental breakdown from the teasing, even when his good friends teased him also. Had it been pre-meditated I think he would have found him walking around one day and the shooter him from behind the bushes. The whole way this went down I do believe that he had mental problems from all the teasing......... I do think that he should be punished just NOT as an adult.

Posted by opns on August 14, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anna - i don't believe he had mental problems just from the teasing, i believe yes he had mental problems, but I firmly believed this stemmed from the genes and parenting of the parents. Sure there are alot of children with bad genes, but the parents in some cases have control in how to teach, instill the child with behavior. On the flip side, the same with Larry. These happened to be two bad genes that collided in life. Larry should not of been flaunting without the education of his peers and being reprimanded, sure the teasing and flirting could of been brought down by counceling. And Brandon did not know how to turn to his adults.

Again, so sad for the two.

Posted by nelsonknows on August 18, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I do not think you are getting the point to this at all. There is evidence of sexual harassment committed by Larry King against Brandon McInerney and even though that is NO excuse for murder, McInerney had NO excuse, PERIOD, E.O. Green is complicit in not following state and federal law which means that if E.O. Green Administration had followed state's and federal law, Larry King would be alive today. Larry King's own father is suing the school for failure to comply with Title 9 and for wrongful death.
Furthermore, E.O. Green is a uniform school which means every student attending E.O. Green is required to comply with a dress code, except for Larry King, who in a January 29th email to all teachers at E.O. Green, was allowed to openly violate this dress code, thus receiving preferential treatment, even at the protest of several teachers. Many students had complained about sexual harassment at the hands of Larry King and nothing was done.
I hope you get my point in all of this, it would have been simple for E.O. Green School to solve this before anyone got hurt but the school administration, who are Mandatory Reporters by law, refused to take action allegedly because of political agenda of an openly gay Assistant Principal, Joy Epstein.
It's amazing that Newsweek Magazine could cover this story with a 5 page report but all we get from the Star are reports from the very same people that have been trying to cover this up from the start.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/147790