Posted by jmplachta on April 21, 2008 at 8:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

At least it is more criminals off the street. Let's hope justice is served so no more lives are lost.

Posted by math_spirit on April 21, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For years, the gangs have always had the girls doing their dirty work --- that's why so many of them are sitting in prison --- for doing the dirty work for their gang member boyfriends ... Some people never learn

Posted by socalromans on April 21, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

YOU GO girls!

Straight to prison.

Losers.

Posted by sandypants83 on April 21, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow...their parents must be proud!

Posted by slkrchck on April 21, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

the gangs don't necessarily have girls doing their dirty work. the girls have thier own dirty work to do. you can't blame men for influencing girls all the time. sometimes, sure. who's to say the men aren't working for the girls? sadly, they have their own agendas, own gangs and their own sawed off shot guns. and beware, girls are meaner.

Posted by oxnard40 on April 21, 2008 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Where were the girls from? They may have been from a gang outside of El Rio. This is kind of scary. Two shootings in El Rio on consecutive Sunday afternoons.

Posted by Relvd98 on April 21, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Shoot, next time I visit my relatives in El Rio, I'll be sure to go with extra precaution.

Posted by Ventura22 on April 21, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pre-trial detention facility?? What the hell? A jail is a jail. Are they trying to soften things up for criminals now?

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on April 21, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Here we go again. Our legislators and courts have let us down. Janelle has graced local courts some 9 times. Charges have ranged from drugs to weapons with much in between. Regardless of prison comforts, she should not have been on the streets because a propensity for violance and disregard for the safety of others had been well demonstrated and documented. How being a banger with a loaded firearm could be downsized to a misdemeanor I don't understand.

Naomi is actually a sweet girl. She has only been in court twice locally, once for being an unlicensed driver and the other for DUI, >.08 blood alcohol along with a false ID. She is certainly fortunate to have an older sister to set the example.

Posted by Relvd98 on April 21, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mmshoot

On that note, good point. I'll tell them to visit me instead.

Posted by valdevious51 on April 21, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Their parents are probably just as proud as the parents whose offspring are narrow-minded, self-righteous, conclusion jumpers who don't know what they're talking about, but are already pointing fingers.

TimeArrow: You a cop?

Posted by Relvd98 on April 21, 2008 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mmshoot

Ok, this is just too much; now you're being funny...lol
But again, one can never be too careful nowadays!

Posted by valdevious51 on April 21, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is obvious to even a blind person from BilltheButcher's comment, that predjudice and stereotyping is alive and well and flourishing in Ventura County.

Posted by pjlove10 on April 21, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TimeArrow, never cease to amaze me with your knowledge on these cases. Keep it up... !!

Posted by narc121 on April 21, 2008 at 12:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Another GHETTO 805 crime! This is SO pathetic. I hope these two mensas are given time!

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on April 21, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

valdevious51, to answer your question, I am not a cop. I am retired military, a parent and a grandparent. I was born in Ventura. I do not like what I see happening to my county. I particularly don't like neighborhood deterioration, graffiti and gang activity.

I enjoyed camping and fishing in the back country with my dad and friends when we could park our car for days, knowing that it would be there when we returned. I enjoyed high school ... when there was no need for school resources officers ... and gangs weren't a threat to the public.

I do know how to research public records, and do so when I feel that a point needs to be made. I am disappointed that political correctness has placed comfort of prisoners over the safety and well being of the law abiding public.

Posted by imbetnonit on April 21, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Last I heard, 22 and 23 year old females were considered women, not girls. Maybe they used to be "nice girls", but now it appears they are dangerous women.

Posted by valdevious51 on April 21, 2008 at 1:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What public record states that a person is 'actually a sweet girl' or not? Sounds like you have more knowledge than can be gleamed from public records.

Posted by at8man on April 21, 2008 at 1:45 p.m.

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Posted by Face on April 21, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shooting into buildings hoping to kill people in general is the worst kind of attempted murder. Killing without giving a thought are what gangsters do. Use of a weapon in an attempt to kill indiscriminately should be life in prison With possibility of parole. valdevious51 is right, just because these two women shot deadly weapons into an occupied building doesn't mean they shot deadly weapons into an occupied building. Let's not jump to conclusions anybody.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on April 21, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mmshoot --- no relation. They are much younger than I.

Posted by Relvd98 on April 21, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To the person trying to make an excuse or speaking up for these two, please stop.
What else in the world where they doing then? Playing and pretending they were water hand-guns? Testing out the weapons see if they were real? Practing by aiming and shooting to see if they have what it takes to enlist in the military?

C'mon now!

Posted by Relvd98 on April 21, 2008 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oopss-

Correction; meant "practicing".

Posted by whatever on April 21, 2008 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I want to have daughters just like these two low life's. I could then sit and tell anyone who wanted to hear that they are so wonderful, they are educated, that they graduated with honors. Yes I want children just like these two. What wonderful wives they will make!!

Posted by Relvd98 on April 21, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mmshoot

You've put in quite some humor in my day with your hilarious comments!

Have a nice evening everyone!

Posted by Relvd98 on April 21, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, no offense to anyone. It's just that these two idiots being at the age that they are, they apparently are missing a great amount of brain cells.

Posted by Relvd98 on April 21, 2008 at 4:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lol...there you go again! Well atleast I can go home from work in a good mood ;)

Posted by valdevious51 on April 21, 2008 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I didn't know that the trial was over already and a guilty verdict was reached. Then again, the defendants' must have 'labeled' themselves when they were born with the last name of Mata --as opposed to Mathers or Madison.
As for offending me, unfortunately you didn't get the privilege. Post it again and I might read it this time. You know, if you made those eyeholes larger in that hood that you and "your homies" wear, YOU might get a better view of the REAL world around you.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on April 21, 2008 at 5:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sandypants83 ,Well since they are both adults I would hope the parents are terribly ashamed. Not only did they hurt the Victims, the neighborhood, but hurt thier families also.
Welcome to Chowchilla ladies !!!! You won't like it!
slkrchck , I agree. They were just stupid girls. Or women. They were adults.
Ventura22,FYI, Pretrial is jail. They just haven't gone to court and haven't been sentenced yet. You have pre-trial, Mininmum and Max.
valdevious51 ,If someone is in jail at the time you can get thier record. Also if you know thier birthdates you can get all Info. Unless there is another site I haven't found yet.
But I do know that the usually for a drive by is ten years!
imbetnonit , I agree ! THey chose thier path!
Relvd98 , Meth does destroy brain cells. Cells that do not grow back!!!!!!!! I agree.....
I do have Condolences for the parents. I am sure they are suffering also. You can't always control your kids lives. Unless they were brought up that way.

Posted by Face on April 21, 2008 at 6:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Valdevious51 is racist, simple and plain. Yeah, her and John Wayne.

Posted by valdevious51 on April 21, 2008 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was referring to BillLaButcher's comment about maybe offending me. Yours was funny.

Posted by 4PETESAKE on April 21, 2008 at 9:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lets not forget the action of what they did buy being more concerned about their past or age..regarless of their race as well. Who cares about what they did a year or two ago..Because on Sunday They shot into an occupied building with innocent people that have families. They should have NO BAIL!
VALDIVIOUS51- Im more then positive you wouldnt be as deffensive for those uncivilized little girls if a member of your family or good friend were in that building..so try and understand where everyone is coming from! I hope they max those "HOODRATS" out!!!!

Posted by valdevious51 on April 22, 2008 at 1:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

face99 & mmshoot: Yes, I am racist -- a HUMAN racist.
4petesake: If you were accused of being in the car with those two young women, I'm more than positive that you would want people to have their facts straight before they joined the lynch mob and, be thankful for the right of innocent until proven guilty --which happens to be the only thing I am defending at this time.

Posted by valdevious51 on April 22, 2008 at 10:13 a.m.

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Posted by valdevious51 on April 22, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BillLaButcher : I'm not angry. Actually I think your'e comical and was only trying to respond in kind. You ask so many questions, tho. And please don't waste your good points -- you have so few. But I guess I have to go (for now) cuz the 'grand dragon' has dismissed me.. LOL-- plus - I think I'll go organize a carwash to help with the defense LOL.....

Posted by valdevious51 on April 22, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just kidding about the carwash.

Posted by Relvd98 on April 22, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So yea, I made it home safely yesterday in my tank!

Posted by FedUp on April 22, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

why anyone would defend humans like this is beyond any rational thought. with their rap sheet, it is only a matter of time till one of them kills another. or at least gets caught killing another person.
black, white, brown, yellow, blue. color does not matter. neither does the area you grow up in. for the most part, it is all about how you were raised. these two ladies were obviously not raised right. they dont belong in society.

and for what it is worth. Time Arrow spends almost all of his free time volunteering in the communities around ventura county. he is working to better the neighborhoods for the future. before you rag on him, ask yourself what you have done to make your neighborhood safer.

Posted by 4PETESAKE on April 22, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mmshoot- The street definition of a "HOODRAT" is a girl (or in this case..sisters) that hang with the local hood and usually sleep with them, carry their drugs, weapons, and take the rap for their crimes too! And their usually pretty well know in the neighborhood.

Valdivious55- If I were caught in a car with them?..I think NOT! Im not just speaking on my own assumtions..Im going by the newspaper, and it states "Deputies found loaded weapons including a shotgun in the vehicle the sisters were driving"...what more evidence do you need???

Posted by Relvd98 on April 22, 2008 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Exactly. Loaded weapons in the car were found. What else should the police be looking for instead?

Posted by FedUp on April 22, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Well, I'm Fed Up with bleeding hearts always asking me if I can just give a little bit more all the time. I know, I'll ask..."

not sure if this was a knock on me or not. it could be the first time I was ever referred to as a "Bleeding heart" though.

if I had my way, we would spay and neuter all gang members when they are arrested for anything. treat them like wild dogs. if no one claims them from jail inside a week, put them down...

Posted by Relvd98 on April 22, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

FedUp-that comment was not aimed at you; mmshoot is just being comical about this article.

mmshoot-as a matter of fact, YES! I have an awesome deal on some that just arrived! Got inventory last night. Just be detailed of what you'd like in yours...please. Be sure to keep in touch; would you like coffee with those donuts sir?

Posted by Face on April 22, 2008 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess all they need to do is match up the slugs in the buildings to those guns. If they do match, then that is that.

Posted by Face on April 23, 2008 at 6:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ballistics report come out yet?

Posted by Relvd98 on April 23, 2008 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lol...I think it will never be safe anywhere; I'm glad I have a day job that keeps me indoors and at night, won't go out unless I really have to.

Posted by Face on April 23, 2008 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They may be connected to a series of thefts in Africa. http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyE...

Posted by lperez on April 23, 2008 at 8:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Please do not mention or criticize the last name Mata or family for your information their father is deceased and at no means would he be proud. He was a well educated bussniess man and as for mom she also is an educated professional person, so as for your comments they are unnecessary as far as the parents are concerned. Like you all said these are women not girls and I am not justifing what they did, but do not blame the parents of their decisions.

Posted by Relvd98 on April 24, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So how the sisters doing? Any update?

Posted by Relvd98 on April 24, 2008 at 2 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mmshoot

Do not be afraid! It's ok.

Posted by Relvd98 on April 24, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Darn, I apologize. But you're order is not quite ready yet. You see, it's a special order because I want to make sure it fits your needs, is comfortable and satisfies you to the fullest. So just hang in there pal; you do want it as is, right?

Posted by 118journey on April 24, 2008 at 11:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay let me clear it up a little for you. No need to jump the gun. There is no excuse for what these girls did. But I guess one of the girls shot at another girl because this girl had stabbed her weeks before. But violence is not the answer needless to say she freaked out and ask her sister to give her a ride when they got in the sisters car the cops showed up and arrested both of them... the end.. as far as their parents being proud of them well about ten years ago their loving and devouted father was killed in a car accident while coming back from vacaction from Arizona. He was a college graduate that was a great mentor to many young people how his daughters delt with his death and life after this tragic chapter in their lives....I guess you would have to walk in their shoes to see life through their eyes. This does not excuse their behavior but when you know facts it helps to show compassion...

Posted by Face on April 25, 2008 at 10:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just one shooter? Get the ballistics report yet? No need to jump the gun. heheh

Posted by deepwater805 on April 26, 2008 at 2:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They had to do the shootings themselves.... their boyfriends were already in jail.....

Posted by mike_honcho on April 26, 2008 at 10:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This story has been out for a few days now and some of the comments that have been going back and forth have been pretty funny but please don't lose sight of the beginning of the comments. TImeArrow you nailed it on the head. I think it's VERY important to look at this woman's violent criminal history and question why she hasn't gone to prison and why is she still on the street. If the STAR began looking into the DA's office and DA's that plead out cases to avoid trials and get guilty conviction stats the community would be outraged. Is justice being served????????