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Joseph A. Garcia / Star staff Allegations that some Oxnard police officers have used the Beat 21 substation to have sexual encounters and photograph scantily clad women are being investigated by the department.
A criminal investigation into rape accusations against an Oxnard police officer has uncovered allegations that he and his partner used a police substation for sexual encounters and photographing scantily clad women.
"These are all allegations that came out in the criminal investigation," Oxnard Police Chief John Crombach said this week.
Only one officer is being investigated for criminal behavior, Senior Officer Martin Polo, and he has not been charged with a crime. The other allegations center on whether he and his partner also violated a code of conduct, misused city property or engaged in misbehavior while on duty.
Contacted at his home Wednesday, Polo refused to comment, except to say that since the case came to light "my life has become a (expletive) living nightmare."
The investigation into the allegations is focused on Polo, 43, and Senior Officer Frank Brisslinger, 41, who are linked by a tragic accident. Two years ago while on beach patrol, they ran over and killed an Iowa woman who was sunbathing on Mandalay Beach. The two police veterans were cleared of any wrongdoing.
An attorney for the girl who alleges she was raped by Polo said the police substation was routinely used by officers as a "love nest."
Department investigating
Crombach said the allegations are still unproven, but his department takes them seriously. He would not say whether any other officers are involved.
"If we believe you have been alleged to have committed a crime, we will investigate that and refer it to the district attorney," he said.
In every institution there are those who break certain codes of behavior, Crombach said.
"I really would like to stress to the community — whether it's police, law firms, hospitals, clergy — there are those who step out of bounds," Crombach said. "And that's why we have a system of discipline. It's a sad day, but I have to look the community in the eye and say, We're going to take care of business.'"
He emphasized this is an isolated case and urged residents not to paint the Police Department with a broad brush.
The department's 400 employees are "very dedicated people who come to work every day and live within the mission and values of the organization and serve the community very well," he said.
The allegations arose during the rape investigation. Polo is accused of raping a 12-year-old Ventura County girl on Aug. 14, 2006, in the department's Beat 21 substation at 3749 W. Hemlock St.
Investigators took DNA samples from the substation and removed computers from Polo's home, according to Crombach.
Polo was known within the department for taking pictures of women he spent time with, a city source said. After the investigation began, Polo implicated others who, he claimed, participated in misbehavior, according to the source, who asked to remain anonymous.
City manager won't comment
City Manager Ed Sotelo said he could not comment on the allegations because they involve personnel matters and pending litigation. But that hasn't stopped rumors from circulating.
As long ago as last summer, some of the more salacious allegations began to surface in the community, said Joe Avelar, past chairman of the city's Inter-Neighborhood Council Forum. A former code enforcement officer who worked with the Police Department for almost four decades, Avelar said he's been hearing details of the story at least since June.
"But I know Polo, and I'm totally shocked by it," said Avelar, who has only secondhand knowledge of the allegations.
Avelar said he thought of Polo, a 20-year veteran in the department, as a good police officer who worked well with the people in the city's Beat 21, which covers the neighborhoods of Oxnard Shores, Hollywood Beach, Seaview and Marina West.
People who work near the substation, a small office in a modest strip mall, say it's seldom used.
Etan Z. Lorant, an Encino attorney representing the girl in the rape case, is seeking records on what was found at the substation during the city's investigation.
Oxnard authorities turned the results of their roughly 18-month investigation over to the District Attorney's Office two months ago.
Chief Deputy District Attorney Mike Frawley said the rape case was still under review, and prosecutors have not decided whether to file criminal charges.
The Police Department's Internal Affairs Division is conducting a separate administrative investigation into the rape allegations.
Polo has been on administrative leave with full pay since the girl's family filed a $1.5 million claim against him and the city Aug. 3. He earns an annual salary of $84,158, according to city officials.
The family has since sued the city and Polo for $10 million.
Girl is in Utah
The girl has been living in a lock-down facility in Utah for youths with emotional problems, where she gets psychological treatment, Lorant said this week. The Star does not name alleged victims of sexual assaults.
According to divorce records in Ventura County Superior Court, Polo's wife separated from him in 2002 after discovering he was having an affair with an 18-year-old girl. He was 38 at the time. The couple divorced in 2003.
The city of Oxnard subpoenaed a thick set of files from Polo's divorce records in August, after the rape and other allegations surfaced. Those sections are now sealed.
Lorant said he has received two phone calls since the girl's family filed the claim from people who say Polo was inappropriately using the substation.
"I heard that the substation was being used as a quote unquote love nest," Lorant said.
He was further told that other officers operated as lookouts while the office was used for sexual encounters.
Lorant has asked the city about the allegations as part of a legal discovery process and is waiting to hear back.
Alan Wisotsky, an attorney handling the case for the city, was out of the office this week and could not be reached for comment.
The criminal investigation also alleges that Brisslinger was seen photographed in the substation with scantily clad women, Crombach said.
Brisslinger could not be reached for comment this week.
Both are longtime officers
Crombach declined further comment on the matter, citing employee confidentiality.
Polo and Brisslinger have served on the force for 22 years and 10 years, respectively. Both men served as beat coordinators. Polo was in charge of Beat 21, and Brisslinger oversaw Beat 22 in the downtown district.
There are nine beats in the city, which divide the department's patrol operations within various Oxnard neighborhoods.
In February, Brisslinger, who earns $85,840 a year, went on paid injury leave as a result of stress stemming from the beach accident June 12, 2006.
On that day, Brisslinger was driving a department sport utility vehicle on beach patrol when he ran over and killed Cindy Connolly, 49, of Sioux City, Iowa. Polo was riding in the passenger seat.
In November, the city paid Connolly's family $2.75 million to settle a wrongful death lawsuit.



Posted by half_and_half on April 17, 2008 at 1:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oxnard PD is turning into the next Rampart Division!!!! Its ironic how they always complain that they want to form stronger bonds with the neighborhoods, I guess they found a way. Lol. Also, I dont buy Mr. Crombach's remark about one bad apple, C'mon theres co-workers and staff and they all know each other very well, especially if they've worked with him for 20 plus years. They must have known something was up. I guess they cant cover up for him anymore.
In the words of Hillary and Obama, "SHAME ON YOU" OPD.
Oh- and where is Mr. Police Spokeperson when you need him?
Posted by CloudyDaze on April 17, 2008 at 5:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Officer Polo: Too bad "my life has become a (expletive) living nightmare." Feeling a little "run down" lately? Maybe ya got more testosterone than brains. Bummer.
Posted by Tom_Johnston on April 17, 2008 at 6:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The fraternity of Law Enforcement officers is very tight, but when there is this much smoke, it seems likely there will be fire.
Still, the proper place to "try" this case is in the courts, that is where we hope, the truth will be discovered.
Posted by Pogmothoin on April 17, 2008 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Looks like the Oxnard PD has been taking lessons from the Fillmore FD.
Posted by Face on April 17, 2008 at 7:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Abu Oxnard
Posted by richardg on April 17, 2008 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is rediculous!
a bunch of government hypocrates!
My "inside source" told me somthing about this years ago, and I didnt think nothin much of it, but here it comes...
This guy is a 38 year old city police officer, with an 18 year old girl on the side, while on duty? Dam, another scandal!
Gotta go get the popcorn on this one...
Posted by AnnaWhaat on April 17, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Well if this comes out to be true he and all his onlookers watching out for no one to enter the room I hope they all are fired, loose any pension they have and the family gets every dime they sue for ! A 12 year old omg ! This just sickens me. And had it been my daughter he wouldn't have to worry about a trial !!!!
Posted by mantiger808 on April 17, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hmmmm...I spoke out last year when these two officers were involved in the beach killing. I said they should have been charged with vehicular homicide under the Penal Code. Their attitude and response to their involvment in that incident showed a state of mind that "we are untouchable"
Now they are being investigated again for rape (Polo) and "inappropriate sexual liasons". Given their propensity for scantily clad women, it makes you wonder what their motive was for driving on the beach when they ran over that poor woman.
These two officers undermine the good work that many dedicated cops do out on the street. They are a cancer to the department and should have been weeded out a long time ago. Now we, as tax payers, have to pay for their administrative leave, just like we (not them) paid the Connolly family 2.75 million for their vehicular homicide.
And just for the record...I am not anti-cop, in fact I am one of those that has dedicated my life to law enforcement. That is why it angers me to see this type of conduct by those who took the same oath I did. Criminals are criminals regardless of their occupation. I hope that justice is served in this case. Just my $.02.
Posted by Optimist on April 17, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Officers Polo and Brisslinger have always served the community of Oxnard well. From their duties as Beat Coordinator to promoting the peace at special events, they've always conducted themselves with the outmost respect towards the public. These officers have already been through hell and back, why do we need to do it again? I challenge anybody to become an officer and do what these gentleman or anyone else on the Oxnard Police force do on a 24 hour basis. They're remarkable people who have the peoples best interest at heart. With the upcoming state budget cuts, alot of our law enforcement officers may or may have to take on a pay cut yet they still remain loyal to the citizens of Oxnard. I would like to see a front page article with pictures of all the men and women of the Oxnard Police Department and show what they do on a 24/7 basis. I'll let the readers be the judge on when that'll happen. My guess... after the big quake hits.
Posted by robert.vasquez on April 17, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Polo: Remember me? I met you a few years back when I went into the station to talk with you in the hopes of getting my son off the hook regarding a silly bb-gun charge. I pleaded with you man to man and you flat out turned me down and charged my son anyway. Well, the court ruled it misdemeanor but I'll never forget your condescending manner. Well, now the table is turned and don't think that people like me feel sorry for you "living your nightmare". Its a waste that we even have to read about your deplorable conduct.
Posted by beachgirlovkatz on April 17, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I served Polo for a few years at a local restaurant and he was always such an arrogant jerk who thought he was so great.Just ask him he will tell you. He would hit on all the waitresses and was soooo cheap when it came to tips. When I first read about this story I was not shocked in the least! I hope this scum stops getting paid leave and goes to prison. See how long he lasts in there.
Posted by rebel123 on April 17, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
At the time of the tragic beach incident, there were people saying that these two cops would prowl the beach to look at girls in bikinis. Reading that Polo was having an affair with an 18 year old, I tend to believe it now. There was never ever any evidence to support their claim of "swimmer in trouble". They were scoping out babes and ran over a woman and killed her.
Posted by goldcoaster on April 17, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What interests me is that when a citizen gets arrested you see the obvious police officers ( and you can tell who they are) in this forum sound off their bias however when one of their own misbehaves it's always, " Here goes the Star again, trying someone in the paper," or "Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?" I believe that people should not be tried in the paper and they are innocent until proven guilty but these officers double standards makes me sick.
When this whole Polo thing surfaced months ago I read a number of people write in this forum that there are "strange" things happening at this storefront. It looks like there may be something to these comments.
One has to wonder when you drive by these storefronts in the early morning hours ( I leave for work at these times) and see a number of police cars parked in front and the lights are out inside. I always assumed they were getting some shuteye, but now I have to wonder what is going on. Where are the supervisors?
I believe OPD should pass the investigation over to the D.A.'s Office. You know that OPD has a vested interest in lessening their liability so they are obviously going to protect their budget.
OK, Mr. Keith, we know you read these blogs so step on in. Let we citizens of Oxnard know exactly what we are getting for our $84,000 a year per officer (which is a heck of a lot more than I make with a post graduate degree). Let us all know that you can comment without having Mr. Crombach editing your thoughts.
Posted by Blizzy on April 17, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why are all the ones who cry "Innocent until proven guilty" when useless, waste of life gang members are arrested are the first one to condemn accused officers before any investigation is complete?
Cops get accused of wrong doing all the time, the Star doesn't publish every accusation of misconduct, just the ones which will sell their newspapers.
He isn't a criminal - yet. He's a good police officer (as I know from personal experience) who's suffering an accusation. Until he's convicted or acquitted, it's nothing more and nothing less.
Posted by downwpolo on April 17, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
what is going on with OPD and its leadership? Their Sgt. gets arrested for sexual activity on duty, their detective gets arrested for domestic violence and two senior officers get accussed of sexual misconduct while on duty. and all this happened last year. Its scary to think what has gone on that we don't know about.
Posted by UdontKnowMe on April 17, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This porker obviously has been rolling in the mud for some time already. Sounds dirty to me. LOL. What a bad example, years of service is one thing(kudos to him), but this guy obviously has years of complaints for him to be officially investigated like this says alot me. I won't say that all cops are bad, for the sake of the good ones that wear the badge. However there clearly are some bad cops that don't deserve to wear that badge of honor. Lets just hope that these good cops come forward to cleanse out their dirty brethren from disgracing the honor of being officers of the law.
Posted by miawallace on April 17, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow! Where are all the comments from last night bashing the Star for being like the inquirer? I'm glad that we are so selective on what we leave on here!
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Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on April 17, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
OPD and the DA will ensure that they have an ironclad case before proceeding with this one. Don't indict the entire profession because of one or two bad apples and don't think for one minute that the 99% of officers who serve the City of Oxnard courageously aren't in pain over this. It is times like this when they need your support. I recall too well the officers who were shot and wounded during a traffic stop and the ones who have died while on the streets to keep us safe.
In another article today, we read about Martin Corral receiving a slap on the wrist three year sentence for molesting an 8 year old boy on numerous occasions while an Oxnard school teacher ... and we read recently of a teacher's aid who routinely stole lunch money from a handicapped student to feed a drug habit ... but I saw nobody going after the teaching profession in general.
This is no different. Each offense stands alone and in no way should reflect on the others in the profession who are serving us well.
Posted by goldcoaster on April 17, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Look, it's time for Crombach to step down. Too many things are surfacing about this department and even allegations about him personally. I didn't hear about the DUI incidents and don't know if they are true but I DO know that he and several of his officers were at a party in Camarillo (at a retired officer's house) and a fight broke out at a neighbor's house. I know that several officers were investigated and nothing else was said. There are just too many incidents coming to the surface and our police department is getting a black eye.
It's time to bring in another outsider (one who does not belong to the "Good Ol' Boys Club"). I, for one, am going to start a petition in my neighborhood and take it to the city council and ask for his resignation. The time has come.
Posted by SoCalArmyBrat on April 17, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I have no way of knowing if the allegations (that's what they are) against Officer Brisslinger are true. However, I do know that he was instrumental in assisting my mother with a scary situation in her neighborhood. He cares about Oxnard's citizens, and reading some of these posts leads me to believe that some of those citizens might have an ax to grind. Yes, his reputation may be tarnished in the short-term, but in the end I believe he'll be shown as the compassionate and effective officer he truly is.
Posted by rebel123 on April 17, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
TimeArrow: the big difference that I see is that teachers don't have guns and badges and far less authority (read: dominion) over the general public to abuse. Sure, there are plenty of good cops. Unfortunately, the nature of the job attracts power hungry idiots. Give some guys a gun and a badge and they think they're god.
Posted by miawallace on April 17, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with you goldcoater, I for one will be happy to sign your petition. The Chief says how he is 'weeding through the PD so as to rid itself of the ones tarnishing it'......well, maybe he needs start at the top with himself!!
I did hear about that party in Camarillo...interesting to find out that those officers that covered up for the Chief ( who was then a Sgt) got promoted themselves to Commander
Posted by 805grl on April 17, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
dirty cops...Nooooo way!! Im in disbelief (sarcasm)
Posted by Jacksprat on April 17, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Back when he ran over the lady n the beach it was no brainer that he was looking around for young ladies in small swim suits. He got away with murder then and that was wrong, now look at what has come up about him.
Oxnard should check their cops better, sound like they got a lot who don't belong carrying a badge or gun.
Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on April 17, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"...the nature of the job attracts power hungry idiots..."
That has not been my experience. Have a good day.
Posted by mikesmason on April 17, 2008 at 11:29 a.m.
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Posted by chicken805 on April 17, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I THINK IT IS TRUE OF SOME OPD THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR BADGE, THINK THEY CAN DO EVERYTHING THEY WANT BY INTIMIDATING PEOPLE BY STEPPING ON THEIR FEET, CALLING THEM NAMES I HAVE WITNESS THAT BEFORE. BUT, I HAVE ALSO HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF SEEING GOOD COPS HELPING PEOPLE AND DOING THEIR JOB THE RIGHT WAY.
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Posted by celtic-panther on April 17, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good cop, bad cop, arrogant flirtatious cop, who really knows the absolute truth. Innocent until proven guilty.
Here is what I know; I went to High school with Martin Polo, and his ex-wife, they were high school sweethearts, and I worked with her at the County Human Services Agency for years.
I know him to be a good person, a good officer, that in his early years as an officer exhibited outstanding dedication and bravery. He was a dedicated husband and caring father, and yes in my opinion, a good person.
We will have to let the justice system review the facts. Whatever the outcome, it is still a tragedy for our community , the Oxnard police force, and all parties involved in the case. Including officer Polo’s family.
We as a society hold police officers to a higher standard , and we should, as they take oaths as officers to protect and serve. But they are human beings and therefore not perfect, and yes sometimes experience altered personalities due to their positions of power and influence. Just like all the priest, teachers, parents, and so on that commit crimes against those they are entrusted to serve.
I am not defending the actions of what Martin is accused of, nor am I excusing him of his duty to the community, nor am I pre-convicting him before a fair trail can be conducted; I am merely saying that in my experience with him as a person, I found him to be of good character
Yes, I am aware his marriage was dissolved due to infidelity, and admittedly he lost a great wife. He has lost a lot due to these allegations, true or not, he is not a hardcore criminal or a monster.
Good people can make bad choices, and if this is the case, he will have to suffer the consequences. He is already suffering, as is his family I’m sure.
I know the Ventura County Star, and former Oxnard Press Courier can produce past articles where officer Polo was featured in good light, community service, and recognition for bravery. I remember reading them.
Again, I feel for EVERYONE involved.
Posted by holdenon_2000 on April 17, 2008 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think Polo's response was completely selfish. My Life is a freaking nightmare. What about the wedding he destroyed, the life he took while playing bay-watch, and now this accusation. I think the Police Department really screwed this up. He should have lost his job when he was involved in the beach killing. So far here is his bar tab that I am aware of.
6 Months paid leave during the beach incodent: $40,000
Lawsuit settlement: 2.75 million
8 Months paid leave while under investigation for Rape: $60,000
Total waisted with nothing to show for its, over the past 3 years: $2,850,000
That will cost every citizen of Oxnard $14.25 in taxes, that will need to be recouped by this guys mistakes. If the victims lawsuit is awarded he will cost everyone an additional $7.50 each.
And he has the balls to say his life is a nightmare.
Posted by miawallace on April 17, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow goldcoast,your comment was deleted......what was wrong with it? I guess the Star only likes rumors...not the truth!!
Come to think of it, Polo's divorce papers must be one of a kind if they state they reason for the divorce is because he was having an affair with an 18 yr old.....wow....whose dumb $%! did they pull that out of!
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Posted by surfriderjim on April 17, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You people who want the Chief's head on a stake are barking up the wrong tree. I have lived here for 35 years and this is the best Chief this city has ever seen. He is a stand up guy who is willing to admit mistakes and take the hits. Since he has taken over from Lopez he has turned that department around. If this is all true he will fire these guys I guarentee it. If you get 10 signatures on your petition I would be surprised. We will get ten times the number of people at city council demanding he stays. From what I know of the Chief he will see this through to the end.
Posted by cameronincam on April 17, 2008 at 1:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Standard fare for the Star... retaining the comments from the obvious OPD shills and removing factual statements by citizens.
Posted by pfg93003 on April 17, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
bad cop... no doughnut!
Posted by RC on April 17, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
his kids ars probably so embarassed
Posted by iseepeeple on April 17, 2008 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Excellent post Timearrow...I totally agree. There will be an investigation and they will have their day in court. I am quite sure there will be no "special treatment" for these officers if indeed they are found guilty of the charges. Oxnard PD officers have an outstanding reputation as far as I am concerned...and I personally owe one of those officers a debt of gratitude for saving my life one night during a domestic. That officer will always hold a special place in my heart. Each and every officer on that force has worked hard for this city..for YOU and ME. At times like this, they need our support and rightfully so.
It's sad when one takes a fall, but knowing several of the officers who work there, and always perform their duties respectfully, I am sure this case will only be handled in just that way...professionally and respectfully for all involved.
I wouldn't want to walk a day in their shoes. It's one job that I never felt paid enough for what is expected of them.
God bless the families who are all affected by this sad event, and God bless our officers for all they do, day in and day out.
Posted by socalrws on April 17, 2008 at 5:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It's time for CODEPINK to come in and swarm POLO, he-he.
Btw, I don't understand why they don't ever use their abuse tactics on gang members.
Posted by CommandoAngel on April 17, 2008 at 6:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
SoCalArmyBrat: Your comment about Officer Brisslinger is indicative of the kindness and compassion he has shown to many more citizens in the City of Oxnard. He is a tremendous officer who has put his heart and soul into making the city a better place. It would be nice now if some of those he has shown that compassion to would return a little of it to him at this time when he can probably use it. It would also be nice if people would quit acting as if him and Officer Polo are siamese twins. They are very different individuals who are unfortunately linked together by fate. As for those that say Brisslinger's attitude after the accident demonstrates he was on the beach to find girls in bikinis, I urge you to actually read the report. If you do, you might gain some understanding into the real facts of the accident, and the correct version of Brisslinger's attitude about the accident. You will never understand the impact that accident has had on him and your energy would be much more useful directed at helping someone in need than with such negativity. Please don't judge him without walking a mile in his shoes.
Posted by freek_ish on April 17, 2008 at 6:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It is time that citizens of California know the truth that we are living in a police state. They can run over an innocent woman on the beach and get away with it. They were 'so traumatized' that they had the time and energy to host sex parties at the police station. Disband the police. Start over. This is not a free country. Even less so a free state. Get out while you can.
Posted by freek_ish on April 17, 2008 at 6:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank god. These police officers will finally know what it feels like to have their stories taken out of context by the media and misunderstood by the public. This is what happens to defendants in California every day. These cops will now know the kind of horror they have brought on so many others. If it didn't go down like this, they are not alone. They can go to jail with the hundreds of thousands of others who don't deserve to be there. Welcome to California.
Posted by baitsoaker on April 17, 2008 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Are you kidding me!!!! This is the same, pathetic article that contained no facts that was published yesterday. Only yesterday its headline included only that "Allegations" had been made. There were pages of comments about the Star once again publishing articles that contain no verified facts.
So what do they do??? They republish the article, but remove the "Allegations" in the headline, and instead re-title it "Criminal Inquiry Details Revealed".
Does anybody actually take this paper or these authors seriously anymore.
Posted by miawallace on April 17, 2008 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Baitsoaker
"Wow" I noticed the same thing. thats what happens when a senior editor with expierence with sales gets involved....whatever sells
Posted by B8R_N4MD on April 17, 2008 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
CommandoAngel, very good accurate post. Officer Brisslinger did not "get off free" after the accident. It deeply affected him, and he will never be the same. He will be dealing with this tragedy every day for the rest of his life. He is a very different person now, sad to say. He is a very good officer and he did good things for our neighborhoods. Bad things happen to good people. Polo and Brisslinger are not anything alike, and should not be link as they are.
Baitsoaker, good observation. There were many comments last night when this was first posted, all of which have disappeared. Isnt there a tabloid called the Star? Coincidence?
Posted by AnnaWhaat on April 17, 2008 at 8:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mantiger808 ,Well it appears all your comments were correct.........even I didn't think it was thier fault since they had no training. But now we know the true nature of these two.
Optimist , I am going to wait it out and see if he or they are found guilty before assumming the worse. Which I pray is false.
TimeArrow , I agree ! There are bad apples everywhere. Target employee's, people in the banking industry, secretarys, I could go on and on. This shouldn't make the whole dept look involved. BUT if this all turns out to be true I will have a totally differnt comment!!!!!
Posted by B8R_N4MD on April 17, 2008 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I found the original story posted yesterday with the comments still attached. Here is the link:
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news...
Posted by moralygray on April 17, 2008 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow, it would seem that most of the individuals commenting on this story have a bone to pick with the Police Department...What a bunch of losers...
There is no actual clear evidence of any wrong doing, just allegations & speculations...but your all anxious, no begging, for the worst possible outcome to be true...We'll let me make some allegations of my own and of coarse these will be allegations based solely on the tone of your comments, which I might add is even more concrete than the infomation available on the police incident...You are all either criminals who hate police or you suffer from some patholigical emotional disoder, which compels you to want to thrive on misery. If it is the first thing, no one cares what criminals have to say & if it is the later, well I am sorry to inform you but there is absolutely no cure for what you have.
Posted by miawallace on April 17, 2008 at 8:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
moralygray
Well said...finally someone with some cahones!!!
Posted by bluefairy on April 17, 2008 at 9:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Did anyone notice that Officer Brisslinger's name is not mentioned in this article? Maybe because he is not to blame. Yes, he was involved in the beach accident and if you read the full report (which is easily accessible online) you will find that he was forever changed by it. I disagree that they were out their looking for girls in bikinis. If they were looking around, so what? It's their JOB to patrol. I knew Brisslinger before he was an officer and he was a great manager, great confidant, great friend. He has always loved working for the people, what a shame the people he so proudly serves are so quick to judge.
Innocent until proven guilty - not guilty until proven innocent.
Posted by bluefairy on April 17, 2008 at 9:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
correcting my post - Officer Brisslinger is not mentioned by name in the alleged rape and "love nest" portion of the article
Posted by bluefairy on April 17, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
opening mouth, inserting foot - I found Officer Brisslinger's name attached to "photographs"
completely away from my point though
Until we have all the facts, let's not condemn them.
Posted by miawallace on April 17, 2008 at 9:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
yeah GENDERLLA maybe you should stop painting Brisslinger as some saint until you know all the true facts!!!...
Posted by half_and_half on April 17, 2008 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
HAHAHA those people defending the OPD obviously work or are related to someone that works there. Sorry buds but majority rules. Only 3 dissenting remarks. Regardless if its true or not, all i know is that the taxpayer will always foot the bill. We should just get used to it.
Posted by miawallace on April 17, 2008 at 10:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey downpolo:
IT sounds like you have some inside information.. Was that OPD Sgt picked up by VPD? Is it true that he was in a unit picking up prostitutes?
reference the detective: Is it true that his girlfriend was being taken advantage of by his fellow officers which later caused the domestic?
What insight do you have on this case?? come clean!........
Posted by JUANDO33 on April 17, 2008 at 10:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE ANYONE ANYMORE. THERE ARE FEW GOOD OFFICERS TODAY. THEY DON'T FOOL ANYONE.
Posted by moralygray on April 17, 2008 at 11:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
HAHAHA Axiom is absolutely right! There really are alot more morons out there than not. Axiom proves also that allegations or speculating about something can be so far off base. For instance the although my comment may seem in favor of the Police, I honestly don't really know any personaly...Truth is I just find when poeple openly express how ignorant they are, it is hard to tolerate & I really do get embaresst for them...
Posted by ripley on April 18, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes...these are mere allegations at this point - that's what polo's hoping it'll just be. But, I'm sure it's not a case of mistaken identity or mere fabrication by the young woman - polo's already established his pattern. Too bad for him.
And as far as goods cops living an exemplary life! Well, there's this new "Polo-Bresslinger" story, the recent Jeff Young story crashing into a tree at mid-day drunk and refusing to provide a blood sample, other sexual allegations against other officers, some commited while on duty, shooting (and killing) each other in the back in accident during SWAT raids, some get thrown off the SWAT team for unethical conduct, mowing sunbathers over and killing them on the beach, they cheat on their wives, and then (for experimental purposes) they disguise themselves in order to rob a bank in their own towm.
Now, if anyone says that we just don't know the facts, you may be right. But, their actions prove otherwise, just like any other citizen. They do stupid things and think they can actually get away with it! I actually get satisfaction to see that they are exposed for the dum-dums they really are!
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Posted by bluefairy on April 18, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Uh miawallace - First learn to spell the name it's not quite hard. Secondly, I wasn't painting him as some saint. And I can't help it if the article I am commenting on happens to update itself as often as I refresh the screen. At least I knew to correct myself, instead of looking like an ass.
Posted by miawallace on April 18, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yeah okay genderella-within 3 minutes and your 3 comments, the article changed. i don't know what article you are reading, but the only thing that has changed is the headline.....the allegations have always been the same, it's just that more and more dirt is coming up on these guys so just as people should not jump to conclusions on whether or not Polo or Brisslinger is guilty.
And why do people keep bringing up the beach incident?! It has no bearing on the allegations of what may or may not have happened at the storefront
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Posted by iseepeeple on April 18, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Miawallace says "And why do people keep bringing up the beach incident?! It has no bearing on the allegations of what may or may not have happened at the storefront"
I was thinking the same thing..say, it couldn't be because of all those archived stories the Star has conveniently placed at the top of THIS story...could it? Talk about being tried in the media...wow!
Something else that bothers me. Why was this girl taken out of the state and placed in a locked up facility? We have locked up facilities right here in this County..unless I missed something, I am curious about that. I realize she has some severe mental issues to begin with...but why out of state?
Posted by miawallace on April 18, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"He's a murderer, and sexual predator"
Wow- why is he a murderer? If I recall, Brisslinger was driving the vehicle at the beach and Polo has not been convicted as a sexual predator.....its amazing how people can have such strong opinions or make up their minds so easily based off what the paper prints
.....this reminds me of the Salem witch trials.....if someone rumors it to be true, then it must be....hang em!......tough crowd
Posted by B8R_N4MD on April 18, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ripley, posting distorted facts of other incidents is in very poor taste. It is apparent you want to paint the department in a bad way. If you had paid attention to the stories about the people you mention, you would have read that: Young didn't refuse a blood sample, they were unable to obtain one because he was unconcious and hospital staff refused to take one. Officer Jensen was not shot in the back, which was a terrible tragedy no matter how it happened. You say it as if it was done on purpose when tactical errors occurred. And the bank robbery was committed by a former Officer who was not employed by the department at the time. Any large organization will have bad apples from time to time. And there will always be false accusations filed against public officials as pay back for them doing their job, same as some will take advantage of their position.
This article is a tabloid story that only generates hate and was printed in poor taste. Recently this paper stated they were doing layoffs due to lower readership. Articles like this make it obvious why subscriptions have dropped. As others have said, innocent until proven guilty. Let the courts and investigators prove this case, not the media.
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Posted by OFD_Wife on April 18, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
B8R_N4MD
Well said!!!
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Posted by beingreal on April 18, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mia wallace,
in answer to your two earlier questions, yes on both counts
Posted by ripley on April 18, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TO:B&R_N4MD I've not distorted facts any more than OPD lies about haveing just "one bad apple". J. Young - whatever the "real" story is behind the blood sample- sure sounded like he was drunk at noon and was the tree he "alledgedly" ran into just fabricated by the Star? Who do you think the readers are going to really believe? The cops? ha ha. And, yes, Jensen's death was a tradegy, but, that SWAT team of theirs is far from professional when they can even see thru the smoke and shoot their own, they can't tell that there's a sunbather in the sand dunes, and you think, again, that we're to believe that polo did absolutely nothing to get himself into trouble? How naive... We have rogue and dirty cops in our own city. We don't have to believe everything we read, of course. But, don't be so naive to think they're all sqeaky clean guys. And the bank robber, that's ony one crime that we know about- they may have been more while he was still on the force. Why should we believe you?! We are so shocked about cops being arrested or allegations that are made. But, we can only imagine what they actually get away with every day - on duty or not on duty.
Posted by zulumaster on April 18, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
People,
Remember the source reporting is The Ventura County Star (not known as a "real newspaper") and they are not reporting on investigative facts, but on some type of "informant" that they have.
Real journalist report FACTS!!! not statements being told be someone!!! wait til the FACTS come out and then report it.!!!!!!
Posted by SoCalArmyBrat on April 18, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TO AxioM:
I am in no way affiliated with OPD, nor do I have any relatives, past or present, who have ever worked for OPD. I am a citizen of Oxnard. My mother has been harassed by gang members and other nefarious individuals in her neighborhood, which is Officer Brisslinger's beat. He worked tirelessly with me to help my mother and her neighbors. He's a good man who strives to do his best for Oxnard's citizens, as do the other men and women of OPD.
After reading some of the comments on here, I honestly wonder why police officers nationwide do what they do. It seems to be a thankless job. Fortunately, they realize the angry and obviously partial few fail to speak for the mostly "silent majority," who trust and respect them.
Good day.
Posted by miawallace on April 18, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ripley you dont seem to care much for cops but the funny thing is that if you were in trouble or needed help they are the first ones that you would call. regardless of anyones non-criminal past, no one deserves to go through what polo and brisslinger are going through and even their families. since it has been said that this girl has accused others of such things, i dont give her much credibility and now she is locked up in some looney bin....dont get me wrong if polo is found guilty then by all means, he deserves to be punished to the fullest extent.....but how long does it take to investigate this??? 18 months seems ridiculous! there must be some real idiots running the investigation.....i mean did the dna come back to him or not? the pd must not have too much faith in the whole thing otherwise i would not think he would be getting full pay to sit at home all these months.....sounds like some in the pd and apparently those in the community have some personal issues with him.......what did this predator sleep with some of your wives and now you want to see him hung?.....what a bunch of hypocrites!!
Posted by Pogmothoin on April 18, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Maybe they do what they do because it gives them access to do other things that they like to do, such as take advantage of young women and otherwise operate above the law. Maybe some to it to help improve their communities. Who knows.
Posted by gramagracie on April 18, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
To ripley, if you used your real name would you still be so bold in your attacks? I happen to be a retired SWAT officer's wife. I have asked this question many times before "Maybe the OPD should take a week off and let the citizens take care of policing Oxnard",in addition maybe we can have you "ripley" be point man. You can lead the troops.
I believe in merciful forgiveness, Jesus died so we could have merciful forgiveness, how about showing some of that to your "neighbor", as in "Love thy Neigbor". I beieve God made it a commandment...not a suggestion.
Posted by budmanandy1 on April 18, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
everyone is already ragging on OPD about all the bad things they do, what about all the Preists molesting children and doing god knows what, no one says anything about that..that been convicted of anything yet and you can't go by what the paper says, they really don't tell the truth they write what the public wants to hear.
Posted by budmanandy1 on April 18, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i agree with gramagracie, i am sure if the citizens of Oxnard had to do the OPD duties, the city would alot worse, people are quick to talk a big game but when it would come down to it if that had to do this job they wouldn't
Posted by dom_kenpo on April 18, 2008 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Right or wrong who cares? I wanna see the pics!
Posted by kljinusa on April 18, 2008 at 6:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I live in Ventura, not Oxnard, but I've read the comments with great interest. I had to ask myself, how could these allegations of misbehaviour go unnoticed for so long? And was the death of the tourist part of a bigger picture of cops scoping their beat for willing trysts and failing to pay attention to their beat? I don't know the answer and I won't judge. Not even on the rape allegation of a 12 year old.
I did learn one thing about Officer Polo today. My boyfriend lives in Oxnard and has met him. This officer helped my boyfriend take down a drug enterprise that he suspected burgled his house and was also very helpful in the neighborhood watch setup, the residents wanted to take back their neighborhood. My boyfriend's dealings with this officer convinced him of professionalism.
So, let's see how the investigation plays out and not judge Officer Polo on this discussion forum....I myself was quick to find him guilty before I learned more about him.
Posted by ironwoman on April 18, 2008 at 6:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Despite the allegations, it doesn't mean that every COP in the force is corrupt. There will always be "bad apples" in any department. Naturally, when one person demonstrates misconduct, the entire department looks bad.
I know many Oxnard Police Officers and the ones I know are good people. They have spouses, children, homes, and families. They are "regular" people that want good for their children, hence they try to make the community a safe one to live in.
There are many comments that reflect a colossal amount of bitterness toward law enforcement. This is a great opportunity to lash out because Police Officers are involved.
Whatever happens, if these allegations are true, then they should be dealt with accordingly. If they are not true, then they should be made whole again.
Remember, not all COPS are corrupt. Some are but most aren't. They protect us from criminal activity.
So thank the ones that are doing their jobs and praise them for going up against dangerous criminals.
Posted by kljinusa on April 18, 2008 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
PS...
I'm surprised David Keith, Oxnard PD spokesperson, has not commented on this thread. He's usually very forthcoming... I've liked his posts on this paper a lot, he clears things up. I wish Ventura PD had the same type of PR guy like Mr. Keith.
Posted by pleasantville on April 18, 2008 at 7:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ripley,Do you really believe what you typed about our Men in Blue "We have rogue and dirty cops in our own city" You sound so full of hate to say the least.And how you"actually get satisfaction to see that they are exposed for the dum-dums they really are!" wow unbelievable! tell you what why don't you change your porch light to red,this will let all OXPD know you don't need their help and can do good all by yourself.Don't forget all the gang bangers will also see your light..BETCHA before the weekend is over You RIPLEY will be dailing 911..can you say dum duh dum dum dum,
Posted by NothingButTheTruth on April 18, 2008 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
In hopes of answering some questions and comments by miawallace & SoCalArmyBrat,let me say this: I'd rather the investigation take 18 months or more and be done right, rather than rush it to the DA incomplete and inaccurate. To wonder "why" people do police work, I suspect it has a lot to do with a desire to serve their community much like our military does. Any officer who has been "at" the job any length of time knows there are going to be some officers who do wrong, in other words, "be bad apples in the barrel." The majority of officers are good, hard working people and are wounded by the bad apples. An old saying in law enforcement is that "If I wanted to be loved, I would have been a fireman." The point being that enforcing laws, (even when a violator knows they are wrong) means some people are going to dislike officers. Then, when incidents like this come up, these people like to paint ALL officers as "bad"; then as Commenters they take the opportunity to be as malicious as they can... anonymously and cowardly. My belief is OPD will do a thorough investigation and the D.A. will do a thorough review to determine if laws have been violated. Even if laws were not violated, if OPD finds violations of policy/judgement, I have no reason to believe they would not penalize their officer[s]... unless someone can PROVE otherwise.
Posted by newshound on April 18, 2008 at 10:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The FBI needs to be called in to clean up the Oxnard Police Department. There is no way that you can expect the organization to right itself when things have gotten this bad. The professionalism of these two officers is put into context when you find out that in addition to running a woman over on the beach, they are fornicating with women at the police station. The possible rape of a child by one of them is just so shocking that all available resources should be brought in by the federal government to investigate this corrupt agency.
In the military, the chain of command is responsible for the rank and file. Just as General Sanchez took the heat for Abu Grahib, the Chief of Police should be fired or resign for allowing his officers to get this out of control.
The residents of Oxnard need to call the FBI office in Los Angeles and Washington DC to demand an investigation of the Oxnard Police Department.
Posted by gramagracie on April 18, 2008 at 10:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey "ripley" we havent't heard from you since my last post..what's up...you are so quick to make accusations in the cloak of darkness.
Hey dude or dudette..let me know if you are real, and believe what you "preach". I know what I preach...many are called but few are chosen. I truly belive that the Citizens of Oxnard do not agree with you. Ripley...take the challenge. Get on your soap box in plain view. Not here in this website....go down to OPD and stand your ground....man up dude/dudette.
Have you read the scripture " Blessed are the peace makers for they are the children of God"..they are called Police or Military...either way, I doubt that you are either are.
This may not be very Christian of me, to chose to challenge you...but hey I am only human, and I know that I am "forgiven"....remember merciful forgiveness...
Polo,Brislinger...we are praying for you guys..only God knows why, He will answer you guys. Seek Him and he will see you though this.
How many of us will take up the cross that the
Peach Makers will take...for those of you who don't know, there is a scripture that says "Blessed are the Peace Makers for they will be called CHILDREN OF GOD.
How many of you can claim THAT....not me..
Love you OPD....Blue Kights..take back your streets.. you guys have to be the biggest, baddest..God says so. It is Biblical..look it up.
Posted by gramagracie on April 18, 2008 at 10:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Newshound...what the heck are you talking about. Do you want to be attacked on our own soil. Are you feeling sorry for the enemy? Water board them until they give us the information we seek.. We have been assigned to a terribe task..to keep the PEACE...at what cost. Have you read the Old Testament...where God says take all they have and KILL THEM ALL...it's biblical, it says KILL THEM KILL THEM ALL.
I know this is turning into a religious awakening..don't want that to happen, unless it speaks to your heart.
Any police agency is worth it's weight in GOLD to protect our city....actually YOUR city, I no longer live there.
Love OPD, just the same.
Posted by B8R_N4MD on April 18, 2008 at 11:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The amount of hate that has surfaced is scary. There is not rampant corruption in Oxnard PD, and there are fine upstanding officers protecting the city. With a department as large as this, the integrity of most won't allow it or stand for it.
If my guess is correct who Gramagracie is, I hope both are enjoying their well deserved retirement. Her husband was one of Oxnard's finest. One thing to point out, I dont believe I read where the family of the child pressed charges against the officer, they only filed a claim and lawsuit which initiated the investigation by the police.
Posted by rbreton59 on April 19, 2008 at 12:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
looks like a couple people have something to say about opd. back in the early eighties i did to. nothing major but 2 of their finest did frame me for drunk driving, in my friend from works van. i never drove it in my life, we went to a hank williams jr concert in ventura and ended up in oxnard afterwards, they pulled us over and i admit i was hammered, but they said we switched seats while driving, i was drunk passenger, not driver, its funny now, but cost me $1500.00 to get it dropped to drunk in public,(lmfao)but there is so much misconduct not only in law enforcement but the dept. of corrections as well, some sad men and women working in that field.
Posted by gramagracie on April 19, 2008 at 7:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
B8R_N4MD, yep it is I. We are doing great, thank you, I too believe my husband was one of the finest.
Take care and God Bless.
Posted by Pogmothoin on April 19, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think we can all agree that there are good cops a nd a few bad cops. I'm not sure what all the religious nonsense has to do with anything. The nothing "biblical" about investigating the allegations.
Posted by pleasantville on April 19, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Pogmothion,Your not sure what all the religious nonsense has to do with anything.Have you ever heard of treat thy Neighbor as you would treat yourself?well if you are really young alot of this nonsense was taking out of the schools,you know all the religious nonsense,I think they replace it with fend for yourself.
Posted by Pogmothoin on April 19, 2008 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Pleasantville - The story is about the investigation of a police officer and that is what we should be commenting on here. Some people seemed to be getting slightly off topic and you are waaay off topic. Who said anything about religion in schools? (Bad idea by the way, which religion?)
As for some of the on-topic comments, rather than making one an expert, having run ins with the law or being a relative of a police officer only shows ones bias.
Posted by twbeem on April 19, 2008 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Well we all know that these are all just allegations for now and that nothing has been proven and all you people are not on the investigation. Maybe we can reserve judgements until the investigation is complete.
Posted by dkeith1397 on April 19, 2008 at 11:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The comments I'm going to make are long and so it will take two posts.
For the past two days I have read the comments about Martin Polo and Frank
Brisslinger.
I have deliberately avoided posting anything out of caution, and respect for the legal process. I certainly do not want to do anything to compromise this investigation. It is very nearly complete and soon the DA will make a
decision on how to proceed.
The OPD will also soon make some decisions about the future of the officers in question. I realize this has taken a long time, but it is a very complex case and it needs to be done right.
I also realize that no matter what I say - there are those people who will
choose to believe what they will believe - and there's nothing I can do about that. That's life and that's just the way it is.
I will say this - please keep in mind that there are 400 people who make up
the OPD...and many of these men and women are truly the finest people I have ever known. For nearly 25 years I have watched these people literally put
their lives on the line everyday. That's not just a cliche - imagine for a moment doing the things they do. It is a very, very difficult profession, and for the most part a thankless one.
Posted by dkeith1397 on April 19, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Continued:
I also want to say that we screen applicants very, very carefully - in fact less than 5% of those who apply are ever hired by the department. We do more thorough screening than any company in the private sector.
Is it a perfect process everytime? No, it's not. But people are human beings and sometimes people change. The job changes some people and life experiences outside the job have affects on people as well....the bottom line is we are human beings.
Sometimes I feel like officers are asked to be infallible beings, in a very fallible world.
When an officer does something wrong we investigate - and we investigate thoroughly and aggressively. There are some who think we sugarcoat things or brush things under the rug, but I can assure you - this is not the case.
When necessary, we discipline our officers - that action can be anything from a verbal reprimand to termination. But keep in mind - we are restricted by law as to what we can say about personnel matters. If that makes people uneasy - then they should work with the state legislature to change the current laws.
My biggest concern about this case is that some people will try to paint the OPD with a very broad brush - and that is a disservice to these officers who serve you. I ask you to please be patient and trust in the process.
David Keith
Spokesperson
OPD
Posted by SoCalArmyBrat on April 19, 2008 at 2:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mr. Keith and NothingButTheTruth:
Thank you for your comments. They've been very enlightening. I've always held a deep respect for law enforcement, and it's nice to know that respect is not misplaced.
Bless you and the men and women of OPD.
Posted by watts_gonon on April 19, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This is in response to "freek." This is not a Police State. I do not think you have ever lived in one. I have. Your post to this blog alone would have landed you in jail, no due process, no trial, guilty until proven innocent. The Police in the country I left would have just as killed you then talk to you. You have no recourse for any injustices that the Police would have done. In this Country and in this State, you have the right to free speech, due process, and the right against illegal searches from the Government.
You have no idea what a Police State is. Have some insight before you put your foot in your mouth. Unless you have lived in a country where your very words can land you in jail, I would recommend you use some other comparisons. You should not compare the US to being a Police State. We take for granted the rights that we are afforded in this Nation, protected by both the military and the police. We all have the right to our opinions and the freedom to speak out, even when they are idiotic and misinformed.
Posted by jill on April 20, 2008 at 8:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It's really sad when officers like this give the good law enforcement a bad name. It really makes it tough for the good guys out there.
Posted by adamrolandisawesome on April 20, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hopefully some of the people who posted negative comments on this site have read this mornings article on the Medal of Valor Ceremony. In addition to the many brave citizens, three Oxnard Police Officers received medals for their heroic actions. One of the officers was off duty and saved a truck drivers life. Would Newshound and Ripley have done that? I highly doubt it.
Posted by ripley on April 21, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
gramagracie - Yep! you got it! I am ALSO married to an OXPD officer - so there! And, I know who your husband is! But, so? There are good ones and bad ones, yes, like Jill stated and DKeith stated. But, the ones that try to portray themselves as perfect and the ones in charge that say there's only one bad apple - HA! I know better. And, i'm not hiding behind biblical verses either.
Posted by pleasantville on April 21, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ripley,Have you ever heard "Behind every good Man is a Good Woman"I hope for our sake you are not the wife of an OXPD Officier.imaginge having to sending our Husbands off to work.To serve and protect out city. Not knowing if they will be coming home. with this type of distorted view.One can only imagine how your husband truly feel if you "actually get satisfaction to see that they are exposed for the dum-dums they really are"Sounds like more is going on here thats for sure.Kinda scary when the people that are supose to have you back are against you.I don't think anyone is hidding behind scripture here.The bible how ever does say what is in the dark will be seen in the light,Trust and believe Ripley you shed alot of light on yourself here.My heart goes out to all the Good Officiers and especialy your husband Ripley.in our family we all trust and believe in eachother.We are here to hold eachother up when we are weak.learn something here Ripley!!!!
Posted by ripley on April 21, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
pleasantville, without anymore comments, since I am busy, you have written sensible words and I will remember them. Yes, there's more going on than anybody cares to know about... but, thanks pleasantville.
Posted by Robert_Worthley on April 21, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I had the privilege of attending the Medal of Valor ceremony Saturday evening. I was very proud to have been at an OPD table at that event.
It is during such times that the message comes out particularly loud and clear ... that those who serve in law enforcement, as with career military ... are a very special breed.
These are men and women who all too often are publically criticised and their every action microanalyzed as we've seen in these posts ... yet they will without hesitation lay down their lives for the same persons who openly despise them.
Robert Worthley
Ventura County Crime Stoppers
http://www.VenturaCountyCrimeStoppers...
Posted by gramagracie on April 21, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ripley, pleasantville is right on. I am glad you know who I am...don't know you..but I will make it brief since you have acknowledged that pleasantville has a point.
I worked for the OPD for 21 years, not in the capacity of Officer as my husband did. I know some of these men and women who are the special breed that Mr. Worthley speaks of. Not too many will go into harm's way for the sake of others. I get angry when I hear all the "cop hater"s spew their hatered, you of all people must know what that feels like, being an Officer's wife.
What upset me the most about your post was the rememberance of other trajedies that have occurred to the OPD. Believe me every day we peel off the the bandaid to our heart that still bleeds from those trajedies. The OPD handles any improprity reported about any of the officers. The internal is through, no stone is left unturned. Please remember that no one has been charged/arrested in this incident. These officers are going through enough difficult time, trust me, without one of their own family (OPD family) speaking out against them.
As for the Bible scriptures, just wanted to let the people out their know that God does back up the Peacemakers...have your husband check out the wall of fallen officers..it's a very comforting to see this scripture above these brave men who stepped into harm's way.
Keep up the good work David Keith, you have some big shoes to fill and you do it well.
Posted by ripley on April 21, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Pleasantville, you do have a point and I always try to see all sides. I also worked at OPD, but never thought much about the self-righteous drivel like grama's. Sure, there's lots of great and honest people there, but the one's on their high horses are the ones... spare us any more, please!
Posted by pleasantville on April 21, 2008 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ripley,i am new to this blog forum.But from what i've read you seem to have lost faith in our police officiers of Oxnard.It just sounds like you are cop bashing.Then you say your husband is an Officier and now to find out you yourself also worked there.I'm sure you know more about the police officiers because of this.And i'm not trying to say any one person is perfect.But for you to be so cruel and heartless.To bring up such terriable accidents,one has to questions if you are one of the BAD APPLES that you say exist.You do seem to know a whole lot of no good.
Posted by JC on April 22, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I believe there was some on duty tom foolery, but I doubt Polo rapes that girl.
Polo may have been a jerk, but Oxnard PD as a whole is a great department.
Posted by pinkypinkleton on April 22, 2008 at 7:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I hate when people say things like "This might not be very Christian of me..." Either (A) You are not a Christian or (B) Remember the sacrifice and you'll get Christian again right quick, and not say crap like that.
I applaud Ripley for honesty and integrity, and not pretending to be a part of some holier-than-thou coalition of police wives.
The OPD protects Christians, Jews, athiests, Buddha's, Muslims, Devil Worshipper's etc. so shut up about religion.
This isn't about Peacekeepers and wives and good cops. This is about the plain and simple fact that EVERY pd has corruption, and if the shoe fits, well...
We all know good and well that investigations and past behaviors in stories like this RARELY culminate in their being NOTHING BEHIND IT.
The OPD is doing their job investigating it, the judicial system will handle it, the public will (and has a right) to debate it, and for those of us that believe, there will be another judgement day to worry about.
In the meanwhile, the Drew Peterson Award for Excellence in Police Work goes to...
Posted by pinkypinkleton on April 22, 2008 at 7:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
By the way Pleasantville - how can you be so insulting???
"Behind every good man..."""
I am POSITIVE there are WOMEN and *gulp*, yes, GAY people on the force. Maybe even GAY WOMEN.
I thought it was 2008, not 1958...
Posted by gramagracie on April 23, 2008 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Pinkypinkleton, Holier than thou police wives, huh,thanks for the compliment! If you will note, I only spoke up when ripley started blanketing in some of the past trajedies that have occurred. I take offense to this kind of "trying to make your point" with non-factual statements.
I realize that there is an investigation going on, that was my point, no one has been charged/arrested, yet many are spewing negativity about "all the officers".
There is corruption in evey area of employment,maybe even in yours. I am not blind, some officers have been fired or reprimanded, these particular officers have not, the investigation is still ungoing.
As far as my religion verbage, sorry about that, I also have the right to freely voice my opinon about my belief, if it bothers you so much maybe I should ask you the same question, is it because the "shoe fits". Nothing says that because I am a "christian" I do not have the right to speak up.
Posted by ripley on April 23, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Grama, seems to me as though you "aint got nothing else better to do" or "too much time on your hands" to be blogging so much during your retirement years, standing on your soapbox trying to antagonize and provoke anyone else that pokes holes at your "verbage"??? Get a life and take a break - give us one too!
And, pleasantville, you have no idea... I wasn't the one arrested for anything, so don't even ...with i'm the bad apple, Ha,ha. you're obviously a man... you think I'm cruel and heartless? Well, just think about all the injustices suffered by everyday citizens at the hands of "authorities" - even captured on tape, remember Rodney King? I will repeat, though, they're not all bad, so stop trying to say that I said that! You need to get a life too. Try the blogs on the creepy catholic priests - you might enjoy those more! Have fun.
Posted by pleasantville on April 23, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
pinkypinkleton & Rilpey, "Behind every good man is a good woman",it was just a cliche! That i used because Ripley said her HUSBAND worked for the department.Should i have said partner?.your right it is 2008.But it's sounding more like the 1800's (Looking for a witch hunt).The fact remains Ripley SAYS her Husband is an OPD offcier.Yet she puts down the department.She also works for the department so she (or he says)...Ripley why would you direct me to "BLOGS on creepy catholic priest" it is not i whom " actually get satisfaction to see that they are exposed for the dum-dums they really are!...And as far as grama gettin a life well from what i've read she is retired.She can spend all day on this blog if she sees fit.You Ripley you say you work for the opd.hmm shouldn't you be working?.hey wait witch hunt,bad apples, i might have something here. Ripley you say you are not the one aressted here.Did i miss something?.sounds like you know more then the press.what side of the fence are you really on?..I say save the worm but throw out the bad apple sorry Ripley.You should know me by now.
Posted by pleasantville on April 23, 2008 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
On a lighter note where are the pix!
Posted by gramagracie on April 24, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ripley, Provocation...who provoked whom! Check the blog time line, I responded to your "cop hating" blogs about past occurance which you posted on April 18th, 9:40 am and 12:38 am. I take a personal attack when anyone speaks out against OPD. I will not get off my soap box, and guess what I do have plenty of time on my hands, are you jealous! I have been trying to figure out who you may be, but for the life of me I can't imagine that any of OPD officer's wife would "bite the hand that feeds them" as you do. Spewing about tapes and Rodney King...what is that about. As a wife of OPD officer you should think before you blog.
I believe YOU should give it a rest! Stop the Cop Bashing, or have your husband get another job that more suits your values!
Posted by ripley on April 24, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
gams, you need to check your timeline before you blog - you couldn't stand it when you didn't hear from me and continued antaganizing and provoking to "come out of the darkness"... and no i am not jealous of anyone. Especially hysterical religious fanatic, i have plenty of time to myself, work to participate in life - not thinking i'm better than everyone else - like you. You just can't stand that another officer's wife would dare to think different than you. And, I only bash the bad cops that get caught - get it straight, gams! You got enough time on your plate to figure that out! And, yeah, Rodney King is still a crook, but he didn't deserve to get beat, just like alot of other people get ---- by the bad cops. you'd enjoy the catholic priest blogs too, i'll bet, you're so full of yourself, and you don't even have reason to be.
have a nice life
And pleasantville, you sound like a boooored/boring old man!
Posted by Pogmothoin on April 24, 2008 at 12:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Somebody's got to say it... "Can't we all just get along."
Posted by rcamacho on April 25, 2008 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
My nephew was an Officer for OPD many years ago..
..I am glad he left that department.
Sick Cop that Polo is. Now the picture becomes clear as to how he could have become distracted looking at women on the beach and not paying attention when he ran over that woman.
Posted by pleasantville on April 25, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ruben i am shocked at your comment.and i'm sure the womans family would be very sickend to read what you wrote." looking at women on the beach and not paying attention when he ran over that woman".common now it was a horriable accident..If the department is so bad.Why didn't your nephew stick around and improve it? is there anything good to say?..
Posted by budmanandy1 on April 25, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
pleasantville sounds like a perv... i still say everyone is passing judgement when they don't know all of the details, they go by what the papers say and they only tell you what you want to hear so you don't get the whole story...i am sure what ever happens it will be a fair decision, but you can't label the whole department as bad officers, that would be like saying all the mexicans in oxnard are lazy.
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