Posted by AnnaWhaat on October 26, 2007 at 5 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OK yesterday the guy was 18 and today he is 19 so I guess new info.is coming in. Prayers to the 8 year old for a full recovery although at her age she will have nightmares for years and something she will not forget. We need to really keep her in our prayers!!!!
I hope Justice is served in this case...

Posted by CloudyDaze on October 26, 2007 at 5:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This monster has just ruined this poor kid's childhood for years to come - I hope she will get past this one day and find peace and happiness. Hopefully the inmates of the state's prison system give Mr. Rubin a "welcome gift that keeps on giving" every day for the rest of his miserable life.

Posted by bitemeboulder on October 26, 2007 at 7:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The kid had been going bad for years, and of course the legal system failed to do anything until something horrendous happened.

Let's hope he's in prison for 20 years, but if I judge our courts correctly, he'll probably be out in 1 or 2 years or sooner. Shameful!

Posted by Nosmo_King on October 26, 2007 at 7:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the word "allegedly" was used too much. c'mon, is he or isn't he the stabber that the dad detained until the deputies arrived? This is my alleged opinion on the matter.

Posted by damary on October 26, 2007 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm completely impressed that the mom and dad were able to fight off someone on stimulants and hallucinogenic drugs with a knife. Good for them. Prayers for their daughter.

Oh, and take a look at the myspace of the 19 year old:http://profile.myspace.com/index....

Looks like he is from the Valley.

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on October 26, 2007 at 9:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Damaray- I tried to look but it said "This profile is set to private. This user must add you as a friend to see his/her profile."

Bummer, wanted to see what this punk looked like. I cant beleive this. So sad.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on October 26, 2007 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The father should be publicly commended for his bravery in the face of danger. By his actions, he surely saved others from injury or death.

The child will undoubtedly suffer mental trauma for many years. For that reason, I believe the perp should spend the rest of his unnatural life behind bars.

Drugs are no excuse. They are a choice. When the perp first took drugs, he knew the potential for addiction and at least started when he wasn't high. But --- some defense lawyer will try to blame the drugs, just as they blame the guns.

Posted by dom_kenpo on October 26, 2007 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Drugs cause crimes about as much as flies cause garbage. Personally, I would like to see him convicted for drugs as well as special circumstances armed robbery, and given a life sentence. Making license plates is about all this dirtbag is good for. I don't care if people know him and make claims about his standing in the community as they are his friends - stabbing little kids is just wrong, not to say it is OK to stab other members of society however....

Posted by FedUp on October 26, 2007 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

$.19 for one bullet would help.
sounds like one more dirtbag that the tax payers have to support for the next 15 years or so. I am sure he will be rehabilitated when he gets out though...
(yes, that was sarcasm)

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on October 26, 2007 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

FedUp, you may have been a tiny bit sarcastic, but in reality you were elucidating facts. We will support Sharp for a long time ... and some psycho-babbler will eventually deem him to no longer be a threat to society.

Posted by damary on October 26, 2007 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Damaray- I tried to look but it said "This profile is set to private. This user must add you as a friend to see his/her profile."

Bummer, wanted to see what this punk looked like. I cant beleive this. So sad."

It is set to private, so all you can see is the profile pic which is him with all of his skin head friends. I think there is enough there in the bit that you can see that is disturbing.

Posted by Hueneme_girl29 on October 26, 2007 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

True Damaray, I just wasnt sure if there was another way to see more. Thank you for the info.

Posted by mom4life on October 26, 2007 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I knew this kid for a long time. It is so sad to me that people you watch grow up can turn out so lost and disturbed. My heart and prayers go out to these poor families he has forever affected. Lean on the Grace of God and he will see you through this. To Kyle's parents: You both tried so hard to help him get better and were great parents. You can raise them the best you can but in the end when children grow up they have their own lifes to be responsable for. There is nothing more you both could have done. You sent him to all the so called places that could make him better. In the end we all make our own choices. When you did get the law enforcement envolved many times they said there was nothing they could do with him "long term". I'm sorry our laws don't stop these kind of people before they go to far. Threats and bizzare behavior doesn't get someone locked up. Drugs only hold you in prison for so long. Maybe we need to get these laws changed before more inoccent victims are hurt. Again, my love, support, and prayers go out to all the people this horrible situation has hurt physically, emotionally, and mentally.

Posted by MRCLEAN on October 26, 2007 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That scumbag is lucky it wasn’t my family he attacked, he would have cone face to barrel with a 12 gauge and lost!

Posted by Eyeswideopen on October 26, 2007 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree Sean_Spencer . If he wants to be a skin head natzi , maybe he should get deported back to Germany.
The immagration should be doing them kind of sweeps in Simi Valley and deport all them skin heads to Germany.

Posted by williamdaw on October 26, 2007 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jerdoggy...i agree. take them over there, strip them down and put them in the gas chambers. Sounds hardcore, but....might be the only for them to see the truth. I've seen a few of them "skin heads" around before.....I just want to shake them and slap them around a little....wake up!! It wouldn't do any good though...sad! oh well, no pity for the 19 year old...feel bad for the 8 year old and the family.

Posted by FedUp on October 26, 2007 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

is he actually a skin, or does he just have a buzzed hair cut? I cant view myspace, so I dont know what is on there.
I only say that, as I buzz my hair, but I am not a skin, by any means. I hate racism.

Posted by toddsco on October 26, 2007 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good job by the dad... I personally think the best way to handle this would have been to simply end the existence of this lunatic. I'm not exactly a human database of california laws and the loopholes that exist, but I'm gonna assume that you get a free pass to end someone with their own knife when they are attempting to MURDER your wife and kid... no need to waste tax dollars on feeding this moron in prison. He deserves to be dead

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on October 26, 2007 at 4:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Our understanding of the problems we face as a society was just increased tenfold by Michelle's words of wisdom. Thank you for setting us straight, Michelle. I'm so sorry that I was so ignorant of the drug culture and its' ongoing contribution to humanity. I'd suggest Calvin Sharp as a great cellmate for Kyle, because they are both good people and would undoubtedly make great companions.

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Posted by drumsnwhistles on October 26, 2007 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow. I've known this family for a very long time, just like Mom4Life, and I know they have to be suffering. I sure hope they don't see these awful comments!

If you all are regular readers of the Star, you must have seen the series they did this past Sunday about meth addiction. It's a horrible, horrible addiction that wrings the life out of anyone around the addict and is almost impossible to shake. Worse yet, parents literally have to HOPE their adult addicted kids end up in the criminal justice system to get the kind of help they need to shake the addiction.

This guy's parents are good, loving people who have done literally everything within their power to do. They have not coddled him nor have they enabled his addictions. They've worked really hard to hold him accountable for his actions and to still work inside the system to get him help to kill the demon meth.

If they could have forced him into rehab they would have, but the law doesn't allow them to do that. He will now be held to account for what he has done, and I'm trusting the justice system to do that -- you should, too. I'm also grateful that the injuries to the victims do not appear to be life-threatening, and pray for their speedy recovery -- physically and emotionally.

If every person here who carved out a few minutes of their day to say something hateful spent that time figuring out how we can support the efforts of law enforcement and our legislature to provide ways to get addicts into rehab BEFORE they commit crimes, maybe things would change. It's easy to point fingers when you have absolutely no idea of what efforts were made, and spurned, at every turn.

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Posted by Sadaxx on October 26, 2007 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is what kyle really looks like.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z3...

Posted by xtigerxlillyx on October 26, 2007 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Only if...<3

Posted by AnnaWhaat on October 26, 2007 at 6:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mom4life ,Very nice comment. It seems you knew his parents. Its so hard on the parents. I KNOW !
I am sorry he didn't get the help he needed before it came to this. BUT I can tell you from his picture this kid was on Meth......you look at his face and you can see it !!!!! Meth is a terrible drug. Parents ,if you do one thing in life please talk to your kids about this drugs and what it does to a person. You never know when its going to be your child who tried it for the first time.
My prayers AGAIN.....to everyone !!!!!!
drumsnwhistles ,I completely agree with you! But no one wants to help people who get caught up in this devil drug as I call it. Cause once you use it ,it has a hold of you. You no longer control your own life. But there isn't any help out there. SO until you commit a crime you are left alone. Its really sad. We need to get them help before it comes to this. And yes it does take a GOOD FIVE years in prison just to kick the habit and yet you will forever have the urge........But God willing and lots of prayer you can get released from this devil drug !
And to the other comments I see no where that says he is a nazi. So why the racist remarks?
Sadaxx , I hate to tell you but your friend is a MONSTER !!!! And guess what made him that way? DRUGS !!!!! He may have been a great guy at one time. BUT he changed when he started using. And yes he is a MONSTER! What he did is unconcievable !
GaelForce ,We usually agree. BUT until you have had someone you love get mixed up with this drug. You never know how bad it is. They deserve help....

Posted by dpennock on October 26, 2007 at 7:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is quite a surprise! The Star published a photo of a criminal suspect. This they almost never do. This should be done every time. Just get the booking photo. Maybe they only do this if it is certain people who get caught.......

Posted by maris2step on October 26, 2007 at 9:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To all of you commenters,

I was proud at one point to call Kyle Rubin my friend. He started to go downhill about 2 years when he found drugs. Ive never been so hurt in my life by someone, but just so you know he wasn't always crazy at one point he really was respectable.
but i hope he gets what he deserves.
my apologizes to the family.

Posted by truthseeker on October 27, 2007 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This sewage is going to waste our tax dollars. Unfortunately, our so called local government officials love protecting their red tape, howz about taking your red tape and wrap it around It's neck and hang it from the Civic Arts flag pole. It will sit in jail waiting and we will be waiting, a long long time. So everyday I work I am contributing part of my hard earned pay to defending It. Then It will get a ridiculous sentence and be released back into MY community. It's interesting that sometimes more justice is carried out in prison then in the courtroom. Prayers to the vicitms, mostly to the precious little girl, only God can heal her physically, mentally and spiritually. To the father, your an inspriation to us all, your a hero to your family especially your little girl.

Posted by pisceswhaaat on October 27, 2007 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

this is shocking news to me, i've known Kyle Rubin for 5 years. he has always struggled with drugs and drinking all the years ive known him pretty much. his parent have tried many programs, half way houses etc. but kyle always seems to relasp, even when i talked to him he said "dont worry, im done with drugs forever, i hate them there evil i jus want to enjoy my life and go to college and be normal", so much for that. he has screwed up his life forever, and other peoples along with it. my heart goes out to the people he attacked, i hope everyone if okay, and i cant believe he stabbed a poor little 8 year old! kyle was never violent or mean or anything so it seriously is so shocking. idk what triggered him to do this, hes called me from jail but i dont even want to answer his calls becus im so disguisted in what he did. and just so all you people know, he wasnt a skin head or gang member haha, jus a lost and disturbed soul.

Posted by maris2step on October 27, 2007 at 5:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pisceswhaat

i know exactly what you mean.
i never ever thought that kyle would ever do this.
he called me from prison too.
i answered on his 5th try.

we didnt talk he just cried and cried and cried.

im still speechless.

Posted by whataworld on October 27, 2007 at 10:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When I was 19 I was stupid enough to mess with drugs. I did meth. I don't understand how it could cause someone to do this. That is just BS. If anything, you analize things more. It's not called speed for nothing. It isn't like getting drunk where you do things you cannot remember. Running around stabbing people is NOT a meth side effect, it is something that is ALWAYS in the person. I also don't get the whole thing about how hard it is to get off meth. I decided that it was stupid to use it and was messing up my body and it wasn't going to help me get ahead in life. Puking when you try to eat and to get extremely dehydrated isn't fun. That was when I said, this sucks, and never touched it again. It's been almost 20 years since I last touched any drug. It's got to be the users decision. Sending someone off to counseling is a waste if they don't want to quit. One of my ex-friends is still a meth head and is a waste of space. My ex-friend has been in jail off and on throughout his life. He spent a year in jail and got clean and sober. The first thing he did, when he got out, was to go use meth again. It is a choice! If you are on the cr@p, nothing is going to get you off it if you don't want to be off it. I hope this guy rots in jail! I don't care what people that knew him say, the only people that desirve our best wishes is the family he almost destroyed. He'd have a magazine of bullets in him if it was my house. I'd want to be sure he wouldn't live and sue me for protecting my family and hindering him being able to do his "job."

Posted by drumsnwhistles on October 29, 2007 at 12:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

whataworld,

combine meth with acid and it's a formula for violent disaster.

I've never tried either one, but I've seen first hand what each can do particularly when one is addicted. Combining them had to be similar to dropping a hand grenade in a gas tank.

Posted by mgnm257 on October 29, 2007 at 2:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a tragedy for sure, and i don't condone any actions by Rubin, and i don't support drugs or violence.
That being said, In the United States, you are innocent until proven guilty. Thats why the Star says allegedly, because if the Star says that he stabbed those people, the paper would be convicting him.
Also, I didn't think there was this much hate in The Conejo Valley. What if that was your kid? And you came and read all the nasty comments by potential neighbors. That would bring a tear to any parent's eye, regardless of how heinous the crime.
However, I can say with a decent amount of certainty, That since the 2nd amendment gives us the right to bare arms, any kind of prosecution would not happen had Rubin met a premature demise at the business end of a 12-gauge shotgun.
Basically, I'm disappointed. Yeah, this was horrible, and we can take this as a lesson to teach the younger ones around us to be wary around friends and drugs.
This is a time that the community should come together to support the victims and their families, not defame a kid who screwed up, big time.
Rubin has got what's coming to him, all the hate-speech you can deal out doesn't help anything.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on October 29, 2007 at 6 a.m. (Suggest removal)

whataworld,I just want to congratulate you on being clean for twenty years !!!! It can be done!

mgnm257 ,As much as I hate to post this had someone sliced my childs throat I probably would have killed them.........This was a henious crime! Not your normal run of the mill robbery ....

Posted by Marlgirl on October 29, 2007 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I know the family of the little girl. I have to say I was completely shocked when I heard what happened. The family is doing well and total appreciates everyone's good wishes. The girl is physical doing well and is expected to leave the hospital soon. As a community, we are doing everything we can to help them get their lives back to “normal”. They are wonderful people who will get through this. It will not happen over night but it will happen. If anyone wishes, a fund has been set up at the Wells Fargo Bank on Reino road in Newbury Park. As a parent, I wish the Rubin family comfort during this extreme time of difficulty. They are also victims in this matter. I am sure they have done everything they could have. Anyone who is a parent knows we can only do so much. Kids are their own people with their own minds. We can talk, take action, pray and beg them to do the right things, but in the end, they do only what they want! Drugs are the worst thing in the world and I hope that the laws change and let the parent take control of their “adult” children legal rights. If that had happened with Kyle, maybe this would have never happened.

Posted by interested on October 29, 2007 at 12:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All I know is, I don't want my taxes spent supporting this guy. Some species of animals dispose of their young if they are born ill or if something is wrong with them and it seems to me that this guy is tainted and deficit and will never be normal.... So why waste our money so he can go to jail and pump iron and be worse when he gets out? By the way, if his parents are good people then I would think they would understand the community outrage.... If it happened to them, they would probably feel like everyone else does.

Posted by Faithman54 on October 29, 2007 at 1:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't know if he is a skin or not, but he sure looks hateful and evil. He needs prayer. He is lucky that that little girl's father did not beat some hair on his head!

Posted by nplocal on October 30, 2007 at 11:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

KaiZeRx64, how can you say the victims "were at the wrong place at the wrong time"??? A little 8 year old girl sleeping in her own bed at home gets stabbed in the neck and that is "the wrong place at the wrong time". How about Mr. Rubin being a free member of society, that is "the wrong place at the wrong time". You say he is a good man, I think he is a pathetic man. I hope he gets locked up for a very long time..hopefully the rest of his life. I just hope that if Mr. Rubin does go to jail that the general population of the prison finds out that he stabbed an 8 year old girl.

And if freinds of Mr. Rubin think I am being harsh so be it. He deserves no sympathy. I am freinds with the family of the 8 year old girl. I have met the girl and she is an awsome little kid. I get disgusted when I hear people feeling bad for Mr. Rubin. Thank god the girl (and everyone else) lived through this. Think of the psychological effect this could have on her for the rest of her life. And some people feel bad for Mr. Rubin...that is just absolutely disgusting.

Mr. Rubin deserves no sympathy, no mercy from the courts, and no place in a free society.

Posted by b198 on October 31, 2007 at 1:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have no sympathy for kyle. i have known him for about 3 years. personally i feel he deserves to be locked up forever. That being said, This is absoultely shocking. Sure, Kyle was a messed up kid, with a drug problem. But he was never a violent person in the time i knew him. Just some quiet laid back kid, it is almost hard to believe he would do this. This is why i feel the drugs are responsible, not just any drugs. METH AND ACID. He was absolutely out of his mind. but there is no way in hell i would ever imagine kyle to do something like this. I really did know kyle on a personal level, but he messed up BIG TIME. Kyle i think you deserve your sentence, but however, i know you let the drugs take control.....

Posted by interested on October 31, 2007 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I completely agree with nplocal, the little girl was in bed in her own home and so were the other victims. Kyle was the one who had no business doing what he was doing. He deserves the worst. I don't know how in society today anyone does not know or has not heard of the effects of drugs. He still chose to put them in his body so he should take full responsibility for the outcome of that. The drugs aren't responsible, he is because he used them in the first place.

Posted by Sp00f on November 4, 2007 at 10:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I went to school with this guy and he was completely normal. I liked him.. I don't know why he would pull some Michael Myers sh!t though.

Sorry to all families. Yikes.

Posted by Sp00f on November 4, 2007 at 10:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way... assuming he was coming off of Meth, while tripping balls on acid, it'd probably make the acid trip completely crazy. He clearly was out of his mind, if you did acid you'd see what can possibly go wrong... he probably thought in his head that it was the right thing to do. It was the drugs, period. I went to century hs with this kid and he smiled a good amount. I didn't know him after he started using though.

Posted by pisceswhaaat on January 19, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

so many rumors and comments, its funnys..everyone acts like they know him like i did...hahaha i jus laugh at you guys. im not saying in any shape or form what kyle did was good, it was horrible and im still in shock about it. i actually just got off the phone with him, hes doing okay..his poety (which is the best ive ever heard) is getting published..nice. so you hater can listen to his poems, intervend w/ his crazy life and see what its like to be confused, and somewhat of a basketcase! idk id pray for kyle if i believe in a god, he is crazy i agree but he was never a skin head or anything haha! wow its funny how much time random people have to trash on sumeone.