Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on July 22, 2007 at 6:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you, Mr. Painter, for saving us more grief. Born 12/9/86, you have demonstrated that your vehicle should have been impounded long ago and you should have been banned from operating a motor vehicle until able to demonstrate maturity.

6/12/03: No insurance
4/19/05: No insurance
7/21/06: No insurance, speeding
3/17/07: Speeding

Our family having twice been victimized by unlicensed and uninsured motorists (both illegal aliens who spoke no English in our case), it is my opinion that automobiles should be impounded if a driver is unable to show proof of financial responsibility and a valid driver's license within 90 days of arrest/citation. 90 days after the impound, we should be able to sell the vehicle.

This is another case where the lawyers/judges have let us down. They had a chance to protect us from Randall Painter, but did not do so when they had the chance.

Posted by incgnta on July 22, 2007 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Painter,
Thank you for turning yourself in and holding yourself accountable for your actions. I hope that in doing so, the Dunn family can now focus on comforting and consoling their family.

Posted by slkrchck on July 22, 2007 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

it takes a big man to take responsibility for your actions. i hope you find peace, i'm sure this was unintentional. to the dunn family, condolences.

Posted by smithjc on July 22, 2007 at 8 p.m. (Suggest removal)

it's good that he turned himself in, but, in the long run, he would have saved himself a lot of trouble by remaining at the scene as the law requires. it sounds like he might only have turned himself in because it was highly probable that he would be caught.

let's see what happens in court. if he pleads guilty, then he will really have taken responsibility for his actions.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on July 22, 2007 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I meant to say, vehicles should be impounded immediately if no license or insurance. If no license or insurance in 90 days ... sell it and put the money in a pool to help defray the costs of insurance to those of us who follow the law. If a person shows proof of financial responsibility, then loses insurance, impound. If we don't tighten up, we'll continue to have thousands, if not millions, of drivers out there with no insurance that we'll have to pay for.

Posted by lil_leopard_grl_69 on July 22, 2007 at 8:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what has this world come to. turning yourself in because of the heavy description of yourself thats out there. How sad are you. People like this make me sick. thank god your in custody now. i hope the law punishes you to the full extent.

Posted by powtsie on July 22, 2007 at 9:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think that " lil_loepard_grl_69" should know that we are not hear to judge and we are not given that right. We do not know what you would do in the same shoes until you live and walk in them. I do however have to thankful that the young man did turn himself in regardless. Beth was a friend to me and alot of other people I know her and her sister Cathy well. I am deeply sadden by her loss.

Posted by bill.soliz on July 22, 2007 at 9:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It take a big MAN, To do the right thing.... I am so very Sorry for the lost to the Dunn Family.

Posted by jill on July 22, 2007 at 10:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

People absolutely have the right to judge others. Otherwise, bad behavior would go unchecked. And "Lil lepard grl 69" has the right to give her opinion.

Posted by vta63 on July 22, 2007 at 10:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am so happy he turned himself in...you know, that really takes alot of courage, but it would have taken a whole lot more courage if he had just stayed there. I may not understand the reason he fled, but at least he's behind bars tonight so he won't have the chance to run another red light and seriously injure another pedestrian or driver with his reckless behavior.

Posted by nancy_4ever on July 22, 2007 at 10:44 p.m.

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Posted by natelevi on July 22, 2007 at 10:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I just wanted to say that my girlfriend and I were the ones who made the initial 911 call on Friday night. We were waiting at the Victoria & telegraph light next to the young man before the accident happened, so we had a very good look at the mans car and were able to provide the police with some details that were hopefully useful. We are both haunted by the horrifying scene, but I think it's useful to keep in mind that this young man is just a kid -- no excuse clearly -- but let us remember this before we pass judgment. As powtsie said, it is not for us to judge. Let us mourn the loss of who must have been a great person, and hope for the best and just outcome for the young man. This situation is obviously terrible from all angles. My girlfriend and I give our best wishes to all families involved and at the risk of sounding preachy, lets not be angry but hopeful.
as one final note - I think the citizens who rushed to Beth's aid should be commended because no more than 10 seconds had passed after the accident that several kind souls rushed to her aid. Ventura has some top notch citizens.

Posted by rcamacho on July 22, 2007 at 11:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

20 years old is not a "Kid", but I am sorry you had to witness that , Nate. Thank you also for making that 911 call also.
At least He turned himself in, and I pray the peace will overcome any hurt and pain, and anger this has caused.

Posted by Bulldogs_85 on July 22, 2007 at 11:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I pray for the Dunn family. I am glad to hear he turned himself in. As for what nancy_4ever said race has nothing to do with Beth's death. I knew her and I am insulted by that comment. I would of felt the same no matter what the race of the person was.

Posted by vta63 on July 22, 2007 at 11:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sympathy for him or her? The reason there is so much "sympathy" for her is because she knew half of Ventura, maybe more, and we are all outraged by the way she died. It has nothing to do with surnames or race.

Posted by ed.fitzhenry on July 23, 2007 at 7:07 a.m.

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Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on July 23, 2007 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How about some thoughts regarding possible solutions. This kid had already demonstrated that he was not mature enough to be behind the wheel. Three times busted for no insurance, twice for speeding, the last time in March of this year. I'm personally aware of numerous accidents recently where drivers have left the scene because they had neither insurance nor a driver's license. In three that I know of, citizens took down the fleeing drivers and held them for officers. If people with no license or insurance are not permitted to register a motor vehicle and if such vehicles are ALWAYS impounded immediately when it is determined that it is being driven by one who is not licensed or insured ... perhaps we can generated some use of our own public transportation system. I am angry about raising insurance rates which are caused by people like Painter.

Posted by KristaLee on July 23, 2007 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Beth was a sweet person who always had a ready smile. She will be missed.

Posted by sbrandenburg on July 23, 2007 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It warms my heart to read that people rushed to her side less than ten seconds after the terrible accident. Thank you, Ventura People!! Beth is in a better place, and thanks to those great people at the scene, she wasn't all alone in her last moments...

Posted by an_angel_watching_over_u on July 23, 2007 at 8:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To the Dunns Family:
I just want to let you know, how sorry I am for the lost of your daughter.. I know Beth from seeing her everyday at Ralph's.. She is such a wonderful person... Beth was always cheerful and always greeting all her customers that is why she have touched so many people's heart in so many ways... Now the Lord have her in his Kingdom and she is now watching over us.. I hope that this traggic accident, will not harden your heart and seek for revenge of her death... God Bless all of You... My thoughts and prayers are also with you...

Posted by elainec7791 on July 24, 2007 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

to answer one of the questions out there about my cousin he did not turn himself in because of the description out there he did it because he was remorsful.all of you can give as much opinion as you want but unless you are in his shoes then you really cant say what you would do or not do.many of us have children and how would we handle it if it was our child?i am heartbroken for the family of miss dunn and send my condolences to them.both familys are effected by this tragedy and it is a ripple effect that spreads to both sides.my family is crushed and heartbroken for both sides.

Posted by TBSBooBoo on July 27, 2007 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I grew up with Randy, and I can honestly say that he is one of the sweetest guys i have ever known. Other friends have said that he wouldn't hurt a fly. While i do feel bad for the family in this tragic accident, and do not make any excuses for what happened, i think it is rude and harsh to judge someones Character by what the papers report. Do any of you know him personally as i do? Then do not judge on what you do not know. It is unfair and cruel. He did not go out that night and think, hey i will go end someones life. Thats why they call these things accidents, because they happen unintentionally. Randy is a great guy, and this could have happened to any of you, although you might not have fled the scene as he did. I feel very sorry for Beth's family. But I also feel bad for Randy.