Posted by AnnaWhaat on July 15, 2007 at 6:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Doctors are not GOD !!!!! And in no way shape or form should they take the role !!!!

Posted by potatoebay on July 15, 2007 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I Agree, they are not God, but what the heck does that have to do with this subject? Some people don't believe in God.

Posted by potatoebay on July 15, 2007 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I do believe in a higher power though. But I get so sick of self-righteous, conservative, religious wackos always trying to tell me how to live my life. I beleive in morals and the difference in right and wrong. I don't need someone elses religion to tell me that.

Posted by Sweets on July 15, 2007 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Some people don't believe in god. Some people are so sick and will never get better and live in there rooms, with a feeding tube, a tube to potty, cant walk, talk or do anything by themselves. Others get so terminally ill and are in so much pain that they die a very SLOW death if they dont find the dr that will help them to find god, if there is one.

Posted by Sweets on July 15, 2007 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Potatoebay i 2nd your opinion.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on July 16, 2007 at 6:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Its not a religious fanatic comment ! Pure and simple no doctor should assist in suicide ! They are not the ones to decide when and how someone dies !!!! Besides that if you think about it and care it does say in the bible that suicide is a sin ! You may end up in hell. Everyone on earth at one time or another is going to suffer. Just as Christ suffered. They have great meds out there to keep people out of PAIN.........
I watched my Mother in Law die from Cancer a slow and terrible death. She was medicated, and taken well care of by hospice. So dont tell me about feeding tubes and not being able to pee. I've seen slow terrible deaths. Its called dying !!!!!!
Believe as you wish too. Im not saying who is right and wrong. Im just saying a Doctor does not have that right ! Period. And if people choose Suicide they are more apte to go to hell that is all. Take it or leave it. You have your opinion and I have mine. Thankyou!!!!!!

Posted by Sweets on July 16, 2007 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wont be go to hell. It means nothing to me. But I do believe in a higher power, more like i believe in myself, it all comes within. People who want to die, choose to find the next Dr Kavorkian, he doens't tell them to die, DUH. And dont act like you know everything. My step daughter is just like the Terry Schivo case and her life is not what it was when she was 2,she 13 now. Its not a life for anyone to be bed ridden. ALL THE MEDS IN THE WORLD DO NOT MAKE ALL THE PAIN GO AWAY. Just because you cant talk, think, walk, or potty doesnt mean your not in any pain. Having stomach pumps and machines in your stomach to keep you alive and keeping your body from becoming SO TENSE that it curls up, is no way anyone would want to live. I see it everyday! And it never gets easier.

Posted by potatoebay on July 16, 2007 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And they never said that the doctor would ever have the power to make that decision. Where did you get that idea Anna? And there you go again forcing your beliefs of where I am going after I die. I may disagree there. So who makes you right and me wrong?

Posted by AnnaWhaat on July 17, 2007 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Read my post !!!! You have your opinion and I have mine. So unless I added your name in there , keep your opinion and I will keep mine.
I am the one that said the Doctor doesn't have that right. Along with alot of government people!

Lady, Im sorry your daughter is in that condition. There are homes you can put her in to be cared for. I take it that is where she is. But many people live that type of life and do not turn to suicide. I have a best friend who was in the same condition. She is in a rehab home and has came a long way.......she can now feed herself. She knows people and can talk. So miracles and medicine can play a role. I dont know if GOD makes exceptions, I am not God. I just believe that it shouldn't be assisted suicide. Obviously this is going to effect you more then others. Im sorry if it upset you. But that was my opinion.

Posted by sog55 on July 17, 2007 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm with you anna.I'm glad to see you are not ashamed to speak the truth about God. the bible is clear that suicide is a sin.People who use the term "religious fanatic" do so in an attempt to discredit christian point of view.the same people who preach "tolerance" are the very same people who have none towards any idea that includes a creator simply because their god is themselves.the argument here is either you believe god has ultimate decision over when a life should end or does man? because certain people don't beleive in God doesn't change the fact that he is real.this is going to be an interesting topic in the days and weeks to come.society is unravelling do to certain changes in fundamental areas of life.this is another case in point.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on July 17, 2007 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanksyou Sog, and go read about wed about the first turtle comment. You wouldnt believe it!

Posted by AnnaWhaat on July 17, 2007 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I meant wideopenweb

Posted by sog55 on July 17, 2007 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

which one anna?

Posted by BeaHappi on July 17, 2007 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Obviously this topic will strike a nerve but I honestly think to each their own. The doctors would not decide when and where someone died...they would prescribe something that could be used by the patient if and when the time came. And from what I understand about this law in Oregon, the patient is required to make multiple requests and must be able to administer the pills (or whatever) themselves. So in the case of someone who's in a coma, this would not be an option.

Terminally ill cancer patients who are medicated with morphine (for pain) are in essence having their death sped along. The morphine doesn't just take away the pain...it does speed up the dying process.

Terminally ill people have so few options...at a minimum it seems humane to allow them the option of dying when they are ready to die. And in a peaceful and calm manner.

As far as religious beliefs are concerned, the truth of the matter is we don't know what the afterlife holds for us. And if decisions that we make on earth are part of it, well so be it. Again, to each their own.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on July 17, 2007 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ventura section if its still there let me check the first one to come out I think. Last on page.

I agree Bea.... I understand what your saying.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on July 17, 2007 at 5:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Stolen tortise shows signs of recovery that one!

Posted by sog55 on July 17, 2007 at 5:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah i saw it. kind of sad someone would be in such a state of disconnect.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on July 18, 2007 at 9:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Usually if you are gravely ill and have been in the hospital they ask you if you want to be resuscitated or not. So its good to let them know if you do go in. Some people do, But others that are really old or may be in a vegtable state will usually say No.