Posted by ljo832 on December 20, 2007 at 12:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I had just happened to come upon this fire, I was approx 1/4 mile away and that vehicle burned like you could not believe. The VCSD had two helicopters come out, now that was impressive. There must have been at least 30-40 Law enforcement vehicles there, VPD,VCSD,CHP,. was not fun being stuck in traffic.

Posted by mswallred on December 20, 2007 at 5:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That's so awful for the driver of the SUV. He's pulled over and then gets killed. Right before Christmas too. His family must be devastated.
That whole area is dangerous to drive---Especially (if I remember correctly) how the highway kinda narrows and angles in that particular area.

Posted by AnnaWhaat on December 20, 2007 at 6:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My prayers and Condolences to the families of those killed and injured. Its sad to hear stories of this kind any time of the year. But this close to Christmas its really HARD........ Thankyou to those who stopped to help.........

Posted by EagleEye on December 20, 2007 at 6:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's all keep the officer in our thoughts and prayers.

Posted by beachmoores on December 20, 2007 at 6:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

People were driving crazy yesterday afternoon. I left my office at 4:05 in Ventura to travel home to Carpinteria. After I passed the hwy 33 off ramp this black audi passed several cars behind me then myself at a high rate of speed. He had to be going at least over 85mph. I thought to my self, "see ya on the side of the road when the chp pulls ya over, I'll honk and wave" He could have easily lost control and hit something.
As I passed around this corner on the highway there was the chp, he had pulled over this suv but not the car that was at a high rate of speed, darn I said.

When I got home I heard from my mother about the accident I just got so sick to my stomach. That could have been anyone of us out there on that hwy yesterday. I saw the chp just before he was hit and the driver of the car I looked at to see if I new him. All this happened minutes after I passed.

I have been looking for another job in Carpinteria so I won't have to drive on that hwy because of all the crazy drivers and when it rains it is horrible to drive on the hwy.

Sure you see at least three chps on this part of the road daily and several people pulled over each way you drive.

So far in the last 3 months drunk drivers have killed at least 4 people on this stretch of road and many more accidents they have caused and it is all during the period of 12 noon and 5pm.

I just pray for the families of all the victims and I hope the penalty to the driver is harsh!!!

Posted by Face on December 20, 2007 at 6:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

When a cop lights you up on the freeway for speeding, continue to the next offramp and stop where it is safe. Not only can this happen to you, but I was almost wiped out trying to get back on a freeway from the emergency lane where I had pulled over to receive a ticket for going 65 in a 60 zone on the last day of the month. No more, CHP might get angry, but my life is worth more than whether or not I upset an officer.

Posted by Ms_California on December 20, 2007 at 7:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone know the names of the police officer or the SUV driver?

Posted by jwallace on December 20, 2007 at 7:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You bring up a good point, Face99. I've actually been told by a few CHP officers that they prefer you to pull off the freeway because - obviously - it's safer for everyone. As long as you acknowledge that you're being pulled over (i.e., turn signal, lane change, etc.) and don't speed up, they won't think you're trying to run. And when in doubt, their vehicles do have PA systems and they will advise you what to do.

My prayers are with the officer, his family (CHP and otherwise), and the families of those affected by this event. While no one can bring back the driver of the SUV, my heart goes out to his family and wish the passenger and CHP officer a speeding recovery.

As for Jeremy White, if you were driving drunk, then you're a selfish little man who has destroyed many lives mere days before Christmas. And if our DA had any backbone at all, you'd be charged with murder instead of vehicular manslaughter (LA and San Diego Counties have done this) since you should have known the dangers of drinking and driving and yet you did it anyway.

Posted by ecarson1958 on December 20, 2007 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't imagine how much the impact to the officer was that he literally left his boots. Not shoes, but boots. Those boots go all the way up to their knees. I pray he recovers with his full health returned. The kid who just ruined his life should be also instructed to go to high schools and speak to the students about drinking and drugs and driving. Maybe a little good can come from this.

Posted by dance86 on December 20, 2007 at 7:56 a.m.

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Posted by FedUp on December 20, 2007 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

where does it say the kid was white? his last name was White, but I dont recall them saying he was white. I have a friend whose last name is also White. yet, he is black, not white. idiotic post.

Posted by botnful on December 20, 2007 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Felony DUI - doesn't mean he was drunk. All kinds of other substances can lead to this charge-including marijuana.

As to Mr Wright1 - the burden of proof that you mention is for a court of law, not the side of the road after a man has burned to death and one of your fellow officers has been thrown up to 20 yards by the force of the impact.

Take your presumption of innocence to the funeral for the SUV driver - should be, let's see...yup, right about Christmas Eve. Good luck with that.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on December 20, 2007 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Some disturbing and inappropriate comments!

Our prayers are for the recovery of the CHP officer. He is but one of a great crew working out of Ventura.

When making a traffic stop, or when performing traffic control, safety is always a concern. When out there with only a few feet between you and vehicles zipping past, it is a risk that all officers face several times per shift.

You can be assured that Mr. White was given a field sobriety test and that he blew into the meter. Moreover, he was taken to VCMC both to determine the extent of his injuries as well as to draw blood for an alcohol/drug screen.

I heard the off-duty dispatcher call in the accident on the officer's bike radio. She well described the situation. VPD dispatched units for CHP assist within a minute. Air units were soon on the way. It was a well coordinated effort made especially difficult by necessity to close down and reroute Northbound lanes.

Posted by botnful on December 20, 2007 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MrWright1 -

I will never know what you said in the first deleted post, as the site staff determined that it was inappropriate before it ever made it to my monitor. My comment to you was simply that the "presumption of innocence" is a matter for a jury, which we are not. We are free to assume the man is guilty. If you were offended by my comment (as you obviously were, based on your second, now deleted post that I DID see) I don't really care. Have a good day.

Posted by jkinstler on December 20, 2007 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I happen to know both of these boys personally. Jeremy is a close family friend and my son Bryan was the passenger in the vehicle that caused the accident. Under no circumstances should anyone comment on anything they know nothing about. A suspected DUI and an accident caused by an axel falling off their vehicle may of been the reason. Do you stop and ever think that everyone is suffering here. Nobody wants to live with the fact they may have caused a death of someone else. These boys have bigger hearts than half the people in this world so to say he should rot in prison is a very big mistake. We've all done things and have made mistakes some just have never been caught or it is covered up. I am not under any circumstances saying its fine to go and hurt someone while under the influence, but I will not comment on whether he was or wasn't. He was not drinking from my knowledge, and I do believe we are all innocent until proven guilty. My heart goes out to all families in this tragic accident. May God be with all of us in this tragic event that has occurred. We all need to have a little more of him in us he died on a cross for us all and we are forgiven so try to remember that while passing judgment on others. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone in this matter and hope and pray the officer has a complete recovery. God Bless You

Posted by RC on December 20, 2007 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

jkinstler I am sorry to hear that your son was involved but this is what this comment board is for. To comment on articles SO I suggest if you are going to be annoyed or hurt then don't read it! AlsoT the person that was killed and the CHP officer probably also have bigger hearts than half the people in this world. But at this point I feel more bad for the family that lost their loved ones and the officer who is in critical condiotn because at least the other two young men involved are still alive

Posted by dhatcher on December 20, 2007 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone know the name of the CHP officer that was injured? I happened to be at work when this happened and was listening to the entire thing on the police scanner. It was heart-wrenching. At my place of employment we work closely with CHP, Sheriff and City police. I would like to send flowers to the hospital on behalf of my employer. I would prefer to send it in his name rather than To: the officer at VCMC. Please advise if you know. Thank you to the people involved in their attempts at CPR. Everyone should be trained in First Aid and CPR because you never know when something like this will happen.

Posted by botnful on December 20, 2007 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

jkinstler -

I'm not sure what you are looking for here. An innocent man burned to death, and a brave CHP officer is seriously injured, and you want sympathy for the driver? Are we being too tough on poor, good-hearted Jeremy? Doesn't the fact that he was arrested after this crash have any bearing on your thoughts? No one is "passing judgment" here, just responding to facts.

Posted by jkinstler on December 20, 2007 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

RC I feel sorry as well I believe I commented on that more than once and nobody will ever understand the hurt and pain these boys are feeling as were not in their shoes. My heart is in pieces and if their is anything I can do for these families I will. I do believe things happen for a reason we may never understand, but I can only hope and pray something positive will come out of this tragic accident that killed a innocent person and hurt an officer who is out there putting his life on the line everyday. I also want you to understand I am not annoyed at all I was just stating my feelings and sorry if I upset anyone that is the last thing I wanted to do considering the pain and suffering so many families are feeling. Including my own...

Posted by botnful on December 20, 2007 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Crashes are not accidents, especially not when someone goes to jail.

Posted by sunnbear on December 20, 2007 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If he wasn't drinking prior to this horrible accident, was he up for days on meth? Was he on Vicodin? Soma? You see, it really doesn't matter what he was "influenced" by. The fact remains, he was UNDER THE INFLUENCE and he caused the death of one innocent man and the critical injury of another. Sometimes we do make bad choices, but you must live with the consiquences.

Posted by santabarbarasand on December 20, 2007 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, it is innocent until proven guilty but again, he would not be arrested for this without some type evidence from breathing, urine & blood tests. Guaranteed that the hospital staff tested him for everything. It could have been cold medicine or something else, alcohol is not the only unsafe influence to drive under. Regardless, there is some proof, count on that.

What if he blew a tire or the axle went out or some other mechanical failure and that is what truly caused this accident? Being sober or under an influence wouldn't be the cause of the crash - mechanical failure would. How then do we come to terms with an accident that wasn't really anyone's fault, just an unfortunate series of events?

We live in a society where we have to blame someone or something for everything that is bad or hurts. We are quick to judge and prosecute, quick to hate... the family that suffered the loss is going to be going through emotional hell. They aren't going to know what to think or feel right now except devestating loss. Feel for them and the officer who has been injured but also, be human and feel for the young man who was driving the truck because you know that he didn't MEAN for this to happen and he and his family are in emotional hell also. They may find that he was not driving with an unsafe level of any type of drug or alcohol in his system, they may find that he was, we won't know until later. But for now, that young man is facing probably the hugest terror of his life and he's still human, he also deserves some compassion, a prayer and yes, some sympathy for what he is going through. Use this experience to remind your children to drive safe, drive sober and to be careful that they only get into a car with safe and sober drivers, I know that I will share this article with MY son.

Posted by daver on December 20, 2007 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I happen to be a friend of the officer. Out of respect for the privacy of his family I will let his identity be divulged through the proper channels. Needless to say, he is a father, a husband, and has many, many friends in the Ventura community. He also happens to be one of the top triathletes in the County. We are all pulling for his rapid and complete recovery.

Posted by thsomerville on December 20, 2007 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Uhhh, I believe you are innocent until proven guilty in this country. Maybe that only applies when something happens to you? There is a difference between "suspicion" and being tried and convicted of something, so please reserve your judgement for the appropriate time. Regardless of the cause, it is a very sad situation for everyone involved.

Posted by botnful on December 20, 2007 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

thsomerville -

See my above comments regarding a presumption of innocence. I didn't see anyone get sworn in to a jury box yet, did I miss it?

Posted by twoods on December 20, 2007 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If this guy was under the influence, maybe he should left the scene and turned himself the next day. Mr. Painter did it and it got him a slap the wrist.

Posted by ebrockway on December 20, 2007 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

daver
the 11-85's at camtow wish him a speedy recovery, pass that on

Posted by CAtruckdriver on December 20, 2007 at 11:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm a local truckdriver and see accidents quite often. Whether or not Mr. White was drinking, smoking, snorting, injecting is not important as the fact that he WAS doing something to impair his driving ability. I cherish my life as any other human being on this planet, but when someone who doesnt respect the fact that others want to live that person needs to be locked in a cage, like an animal and be kept from the public. I have absolutely NO respect for any individual that impairs their driving on purpose. I was once young myself, but I ALWAYS had respect for others whether I knew them or not. I think it's about time that the lawmakers grow some cajones and change the laws to fit the crime. Drunk driving is only a year? I think it should be a mandatory 5 in jail, if people dont like it- DONT DRINK AND DRIVE. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. The problem is hardly anyone respects law enforcement like the general public did back 20 - 30 years ago. Until that happens again it's a lost cause..

Posted by SummerSun on December 20, 2007 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Too bad this drunk punk wasn't the one burned to death. I pray for the victim of this horrible tragedy. This punk needs to rot in jail till he's an old man!

Posted by vtaironjawz61 on December 20, 2007 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Something for all of us to chew on:
Under the influence of a controlled substance or alcohol? We'll find out soon enough and that will be his cross to bear. But even without the chemicals in ones system all it really takes is INATTENTION!
After reading over the posts, I have to ask... How many of you really feel that you are immune to causing an equally horrible "accident" on any given day. Do you speed? Do you tailgate? Do you always use turn signals? Are you 100% sure that your vehicle is in roadworthy condition and are you always completely focused on driving your vehicles in a safe and courteous manner? If so, then who the heck are all these idiots out there that drive as if they are more important than everyone else? Who are these people that think nothing of following so close that I can't even see there headlights? Who are these jerks that don't give a damn about the lives they could just as easily snuff out in an instant, so long as they are one more car ahead or as long as they get to the stoplight first. And when it rains, how many of you actually adjust your driving to fit the road and weather conditions? How many drive faster and angrier because of us "slow moving moron's"?
I have been struck from behind (intentionally) while sitting on a motorcycle and it jerked me right out of the lace-up work boots I was wearing. I was lucky to receive only back pain and a sprained ankle. The psychological effects will be with me forever as well as the effects from the 7 other fatalities I have witnessed over the years. Sure, the nightmares can be rough, but at least I am still alive and able to dream. It's too damn bad that something like this is about the only thing that can open a person's eyes, but then it's usually too late. I feel horrible for everyone involved, including Mr. White, but the bottom line is this: When we choose to operate a motorvehicle, we assume sole responsibility for what we drive and how we drive it.

Posted by thsomerville on December 20, 2007 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well said, vtaironjawz61. It could happen to anyone. What's even more disturbing is that the hand-me-down family car of today is an SUV. We have tons of new drivers, with little experience, out there driving the biggest cars on the road as we, older, more experienced drivers, are downsizing into smaller, more ecologically friendly, cars that get better gas mileage. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a teen or twenty-something whiz by me on the freeway, weaving in and out of traffic, or tailgating to try and bully a responsible driver, in a car 4 times the size of mine. Scary.

Posted by rasconmarco on December 20, 2007 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The name of the Driver was Andres Parra, 21 years old!He was My best friend! I dont want to say much becuase the picture hurts me so much to look at! But I just wanna say that Mr White, should burn in hell, excuse me for being so blunt! But if you have someone you love so close to you pass away, especially when you talked to him/her just a dew days before the accident, you want the worse for the other person! Im only writing this because Our families are suffering so much due to the loss of A Very good Young guy! and even more importantly a great friend, son, brother!!! RIP Andres Parra!! We all Love You bro and Miss you!!!!

Posted by thsomerville on December 20, 2007 at 1:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why doesn't the CHP direct drivers to exit the freeway when they are pulled over?

Posted by kristenlabonte on December 20, 2007 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rest in peace Andres.

The last time a cop turned his sirens on me I tried to wait until I got to an off ramp to safely pull over. Unfortunately he got on his loud speaker and ordered me to the shoulder of the highway. I don't know why any police officer would prefer to have someone pull over on a highway. What is the hurry?

Posted by santabarbarasand on December 20, 2007 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree thsomerville... when my husband and I got pulled on the freeway we actually got off and pulled into a service station because with the kids in the car we didn't feel safe pulling to the side of the busy freeway. We were a little worried that the officer would be upset we took so long but he actually applauded us and thanked us for thinking of everyone's safety. The thing is, we are trained to pull over immediately if an officer signals us and we are scared to delay in pulling over. Perhaps as we slow down, the officer should use his radio to tell us to take the next offramp, or direct us to the safest possible place before we stop. I've seen officers with people in the worst places where they almost are getting hit because they aren't even out of the road, or they are on a corner and hard to see. This particular event doesn't appear to be that way, but it is a reminder to all of us to be extra careful out there.

Posted by santabarbarasand on December 20, 2007 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rasconmarco, it's so sad that someone so young lost his life. Please know that all of us are thinking of him, his family and his friends and our hearts go out to all of you. Focus on him and his family, don't let the rest of this crap interfere with the grieving process. Take care.

Posted by thsomerville on December 20, 2007 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe we are due for a policy review and/or change. This whole accident could have been alleviated if the driver would have been allowed to pull off, safely, at the next exit. A life would have been saved, an officer would still have his health, and the pain these three families are now suffering could have been avoided. We all need to contact our state assemblyperson and ask for a review of this policy.

Posted by CAtruckdriver on December 20, 2007 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Vtaironjawz61, well said. Safety isnt what it used to be, it's something thought about at funerals and in traffic school most of the time anymore. I practice safe driving daily, I have to or I'd have had more accidents then I could count do to innattentive drivers doing everything other then paying attention to their driving. I'll give Mr White the benefit of the doubt in saying he'd never intentionally hurt someone, but he chose to take the situation into his control and drive "possibly" under the influence. Whether there was mechanical failure or not, he was possibly under the influence which I'm sure he knew and that's a choice he made which says GUILTY in my eyes! Sorry kid, you just screwed up and cost a person their life and a public servant his career. Hope being "cool" was worth it.. PLEASE be careful and pay attention folks when driving. Thought and prayers to everyone involved.

Posted by FedUp on December 20, 2007 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

keep in mind, this section of the highway is not all that narrow. pulling off the highway onto the shoulder in this area seems to be pretty safe. the next available offramp was at Seacliff, and that was at least another mile+ away. if you pull off the highway there, you could be in just as much danger, due to the narrowness of highway 1, and the people that speed along that section as well.
this is a horrific tragedy that may or may not have been avoidable. it all depends on what comes of the drivers potential DUI.

Posted by Equitable_Enforcer on December 20, 2007 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

FedUp is correct. There was more than adequate space to pull off safely in that area. If there had been inadequate space, the vehicle would have been directed to a safer location.

Don't forget, Mr. White swerved onto the shoulder. If not the parked vehicle and officer, he might just as well have wiped out somebody else.

I've been on scene at a number of traffic accidents over the past few weeks both on highways and on surface streets. In each and every case, the cause was either DUI or other driver error. Rain, dark streets, potholes, or whatever are no excuse. One must drive per conditions.

We all make mistakes. That is one of the reasons why we have something called accidents. However, to be impaired due to a substance is not accidental nor is it excusable unless the first drink or fix is at gunpoint. Otherwise, we must live with and face the consequences of our decisions.

Posted by santabarbarasand on December 20, 2007 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So true TimeArrow. We all get so emotionally effected when we hear about this type of preventable accident happening. It seems so senseless and we look for a reason why...seems to be a toss up between those of us who want to believe the best in people and those that want to believe the worst. As you've said, we all make mistakes...and have to face the consequences of our behaviors. It's just sad that it happened and yes, frustrating that a life was lost and another seriously impaired due to the actions and decisions of just one person. It's just sad :(

Posted by MadManofMusselShoals on December 20, 2007 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To the man who commented here that his son was the passenger in Jeremy White's car, I can say with some degree of certainty that if your son had been the one killed while pulled over on the side of the road, you'd be saying that the person accused should "rot in jail" regardless that no evidence of wrongdoing has even been revealed. To the rest of you that commented that Jeremy White should rot in jail, if your son was the driver, you would blindly proclaim that your son was a "good boy" and wonder why the rest of society has lost any sense of logic, fair judgment or compassion.

That's the way it always goes with these stories, every day, every where in the world. You may ask, "What's wrong with the world?" From war between countries to your inability to get along with your own neighbor at home. Yes, YOU. It's all right here in your comments. Plain old human nature to want to accuse and punish instead of prevent and solve. Sadly, it's the nature of human beings. Think about that this Christmas. And pray for the family of the officer, the family of the departed, AND Mr. White.

Posted by latinmix on December 20, 2007 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow....so much response to this tragedy. Prayers go out to both families. Why is it that went a drunk driver slams into someone they always kill the innocent??? Rarely will you see an article stating that the drunk driver slam into a car and he/she passed away and victim came out unharmed. I guess it is destiny. But just amazes me about the whole situation.

In the meantime please be careful all...it is definitely a good idea just to pull off in the next exit.

Posted by AgilityPup on December 20, 2007 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

daver,
I too know this officer and am stunned to hear of this. As a fellow triathlete, please convey heartfelt thoughts and prayers to his family. To all the brave officers, thank you for your dedication and service--too often we take you for granted.
All the victims are in our family's prayers at this time.
AgilityPup

Posted by ironwoman on December 20, 2007 at 6:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am amazed that there are supporters to the "innocent until proven guilty" driver...he just killed someone!!! What don't you get about that? And for what? Because he was DUI- DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE?
Everyone knows that when you are UNDER THE INFLUENCE you shouldn't drive a car!!!!!
The innocent are the deceased, the CHP, their families and our society!!!!
This is not acceptable behavior.
Bottom Line

Posted by dance86 on December 20, 2007 at 6:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Everytime I read these articles and for some reason or the other a Latino is involved, all u read on the comments is how he probably is Mexican or illegal. And then all of a sudden people start posting comments on how the Latin race is the worst and on immigration issues. And for once this time it involves a WHITE male and so I comment on the fact that DUI drivers are usually white ( just to give everyone a taste of their own medicine ) and what happenes... THEY DELETE MY COMMENT!!!!

Posted by BECKNTIM on December 20, 2007 at 8:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As for everyone who has decided his guilt. I think the fact they charged him means nothing. They charge first then find out the facts later. They have already dropped his bale in half because the facts are his truck had a tire fall off. As usual the truth is not as stated on the news! This DUI had nothing to do with this ACCIDENT!!!!
This young man would NEVER hurt anyone!!!!
I do not think he should be tried in the MEDIA OR INTERNET. As for the Driver and officer my heart felt prayers goes out to them and their families and I know Jeremy feels the same.

Posted by family on December 20, 2007 at 9:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I totally understand the sentiment to have Jeremy’s trial right here on this web site. And as a family member we are not only crying for what lies ahead for this 20 year old, but for the mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters of the 21 year old and for the officer and his family.

But please don’t loose site that Jeremy is a son, grandson, brother, uncle & cousin. We know that Jeremy is devastated by what happened and he will have to live with the impact of this horrible accident for the rest of his life. And your going to say he is alive, but don’t be so sure that if had the chance he wouldn’t trade places.

We have in the past been like some of you, so self righteous that we didn’t believe that we could be affected in our family by something like this, but here we are! I pray for all of you that you never are.

Posted by BECKNTIM on December 20, 2007 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AND ALSO A GOOD FRIEND.

Posted by BECKNTIM on December 20, 2007 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TO DANCE 86 MAYBE THEY DELETED YOUR COMMENT BECAUSE YOUR OFF THE TOPIC AND PERHAPS A BIT RACIST YOURSELF?

Posted by ffemt2018 on December 20, 2007 at 10:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wanted to say I have been a firefighter/emt for 20 years and I have seen many of accidents. My cousin was killed by a drunk driver so I have no respect for them. I also wanted to say that I have seen plenty of accidents where the tire fell off during the wreck not before but if it did fall off before then CHP needs to make a case of driving an unsafe vehicle and charge him anyways. HE KILLED SOMEONE. Please don't sit here and make excuses for him. Even if he had just gotten the vehicle out of the shop it all falls back on he didn't check his vehicle properly before driving it.

Posted by BECKNTIM on December 20, 2007 at 11:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I dont believe anyone is making excuses here just the facts and that is that the people who know this person and care about him know that he truly would change places with the driver in the suv or the police officer.The problem here is he's been arrested for suspicion of DUI. Very vague remember its SUSPICION of DUI not fact.A bit of sympathy to all families because THEY ALL have had their lifes forever changed!

Posted by oxnardgal on December 20, 2007 at 11:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jkinstler,
I feel for you and your family's pain. However, was it God who made your son get into a vehicle with an impaired driver in attempts to kill other human beings? The situation is bigger than what "might" happen to your son. There is one man who is no longer alive due to the actions of one driver and a chp officer who is fighting for his life. Pardon me for not "caring" about your son or his friend's feelings.

Posted by devilangelhawk on December 21, 2007 at 12:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i agree, it is hard to have feelings for the boy who caused this whole ordeal. granted, it could be vehicular failure, but then it does come back to him because why did he not take care of his vehicle and inspect it? i walk around my truck before i drive it to make sure no major irregularities have occured. it is common sense, and reality. i pity you all that are thinking of the boy who kill a man and is responsible for another being in the hospital instead of with his kids and wife. you have your son, granted he is behind bars, but you will embrace him again one day...now think about how you would feel if it was the other way around, you being the mother knowing you would never again embrace your son? guess what, you dont have that big of a heart, no one does these days, and you would be up here acting the same way. no one is better then the other, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself. i know i would be biast either way. if my son was in mr. whites shoes, i would be getting upset with yall...but if my son was the one who passed, i would be furious with the boy who killed him, whether it was because he was under the influence or because of vehicle failure.
due to popular belief, when you are under the influence of a drug, or alcohol, the main purpose is it relaxes you. that is why he was able to walk away just like all the drunks do when they killed someone. because they were DUI, they were relaxed when they struck the other car or whatever may be involved. and the others involved, most likely not DUI, were not relaxed. which would cause them to tense up when struck, also causing more harm because you are fighting the movement of the vehicle. i know that was not the case here, but it answers a few commenters questions.

Posted by FedUp on December 21, 2007 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

the fact that this kid was under the influence, has a past record, had enought weed on him to warrent a "intent to sell" charge, leaves me to have zero sympathy for this loser.
my thoughts are now only on the family of the officer, and the deceased.
Mr. White - I hope you rot in jail. you're not so tough now, are you?

Posted by kelly13 on December 21, 2007 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dance 86...comments are deleted when they are off subject. To try and play the race card on an article that has nothing to do with race is off the subject.
When people comment on legal and illegal it has nothing to do with race either. It is right and wrong.
I am praying for a quick and full recovery for this officer...one of the good guys. And my thoughts and prayers to the victims family too. This is so sad.

Posted by amycastillo78 on December 21, 2007 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MrWright1: No, a person is not innocent until proven guilty. A guilty person is guilty as soon as he commits a crime. A person IN COURT is PRESUMED to be innocent--even if he's guilty--until the prosecution proves that he is in fact guilty. In other words, the legal system does not magically convert innocent people into guilty people. Instead, it plays make-believe and pretends that guilty people are innocent. But those of us who don't have to play make-believe in court can just say he's guilty, because we're not tied up with legal rules that only apply in court.

Posted by bugmenot on December 21, 2007 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sometimes accidents DO happen.

Posted by devilangelhawk on December 21, 2007 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sometimes people DO drive under the influence.

Posted by jenwilliams1781 on December 21, 2007 at 4:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jkinstler-

You said, "I am not under any circumstances saying its fine to go and hurt someone while under the influence..."

I say- people were more than "hurt." Lives were destroyed.

Your additions add little explanation to the situation and your little comments seem to exacerbate the issue.

Posted by cali_girl on December 21, 2007 at 5:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I cannot believe how quick you all are to condemn a 20 year old BOY. I know jeremy personally and I DO NOT believe for one second he did this on purpose, that is why it is called an ACCIDENT!!!

Of course, my heart goes out to the families of Mr. Parra and Officer Pedeferri. I know that their families are going through an extremely rough time, especially so close to the holidays. I also know that Mr. Parra's family will never see him and that Officer Pedeferri may not walk again, these are horrible consequences of an ACCIDENT!!!

I also understand that Jeremy's family will get to see him... but that will be through bars (or plexiglass) for 30 minutes twice a week... not exactly family fun time...

I agree with vtaironjawz61 when they said:

"I have to ask... How many of you really feel that you are immune to causing an equally horrible "accident" on any given day. Do you speed? Do you tailgate? Do you always use turn signals? Are you 100% sure that your vehicle is in roadworthy condition and are you always completely focused on driving your vehicles in a safe and courteous manner? If so, then who the heck are all these idiots out there that drive as if they are more important than everyone else? Who are these people that think nothing of following so close that I can't even see there headlights? Who are these jerks that don't give a damn about the lives they could just as easily snuff out in an instant, so long as they are one more car ahead or as long as they get to the stoplight first. And when it rains, how many of you actually adjust your driving to fit the road and weather conditions? How many drive faster and angrier because of us "slow moving moron's"?"

This could have been anyone on any day... maybe me, maybe you, if you're not careful.

As far as Jeremy rotting in jail, be careful what you wish upon other people when you don't even know the whole story!!!

Posted by kelly13 on December 21, 2007 at 6:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cali-girl...an accident is something that happens thru no fault of your own. "IF" Mr. White was under the influence of any illegal substance then he caused the "accident". He chose to use then endanger himself and others by getting behind the wheel of the car and driving. He chose to do those things. I believe the latest charges against him also include "selling drugs" also. So he not only uses but sells too? And you want to excuse this behavior because he is a " boy"? No, he is a 20 year old man that should take responsiblity for his actions. He should be held accoutable for his crimes...if he is found guilty or pleads guilty. If he is a man, he will plead guilty and take responsibitly.
As far as us people not knowing the whole story, perhaps that's because you aren't being honest enough to tell it like it really is.

Posted by QuestionAuthority on December 21, 2007 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Situations like this are generally 3% accident and 97% acts of stupidity. Intentional or not, one must pay for ones actions.

Posted by ffemt2018 on December 21, 2007 at 8:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are making excuses for him just like the person said " the tire fell off." Well if you look at the picture all four tires are on the vehicle. I know you can not see the right rear but if the tire fell off it would be leaning that way not the other way. Cali_girl was right he is a "boy" because no decent man would ride around with drugs at all only a sorry piece of nothing would do that. The fact is he killed a man and injured another one for him. The one decent thing he did in the whole situation is he admitted fault, but I know the family and lawyers will say he was under the influence so that shouldn't count. Bull He admitted it. In my opinion he is nothing. I have no sorry feelings for him. When people start learning to respect the law we won't have idiots like this on our roads. My thoughts and prayers are with Mr Parra and Officer Pedeferris families

Posted by devilangelhawk on December 21, 2007 at 10:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"IF" a tire fell off or blew and he was of sound mind, then he would have been capable of avoiding the officer and man..."IF" he was under the influence when that happened, he would over correct and the obvious would happen. I agree, a man would have never made such choices...only a boy would do so.

Posted by skaterfrompr on December 21, 2007 at 10:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You know what. Jeremy is my cousin. He shall not rot in hell. Not his fault at all. Jeremy i will pray for you bro. YOu guys dont know any of the facts. he getting Charged for dui. the news knows nothing that is going on right now. Yes it is a hard time for the familys. i will pray for them also. But come on now. No one deserves to be punished or rot in hell. Learn the facts before you speak please. Jeremy did some bad things. but alot of the things were legal to him. all i say is learn the facts. Thank you

Posted by skaterfrompr on December 21, 2007 at 10:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

His axel fell off. He couldnt steer his truck thats why he swerved onto the shoulder. There are alot of other facts to this, But im not sure if i will tell every one on this site and im sorry. But do you seriosuly think a kid would run into some one on purpose? I seriously dont think so. THERE ARE ACCIDENTS PEOPLE. ANd hopefully this will be called an accident. you know what the police care about more? they care about there chp that is injured they really dont care about the death just there injured chp... Seriously the police are ridicoulous. Reading all this really does hurt. Jeremy did not mean to do this. I will reply to all these messages later and i will try to get some other of my family members to get on here and tell you all the TRUE facts... You all are seriously DUMB, WHAT IF YOU WERE IN THIS SITUATION AND IT WASNT TRUE HUH! PUT UR SELF IN THERE SHOES. and thanks for the people that are not listening to this crap the news are saying. i mean some of it is true but some is not.. and jkinstler how is bryan doing? im sorry for what happened. and for all my family who is reading this and wants to know who wrote this. Its Michael. And lets all keep our hopes up for him... and pray.

Posted by skaterfrompr on December 21, 2007 at 11:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and correction... he is not getting charged for DUI..

Posted by Cousin on December 21, 2007 at 11:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hmm.. Not Quite Sure What To Say But Jeremy(My Cousin) Is Not That Bad Of A Kid And I Really Do Love Him. Just Finding This Out On Thursday Night That My Cousin Is Gonna Go To Jail For A Long Time Is Very Devistating. But, Nobody Has The Rights To Put Somebody Down For This **ACCIDENT** I Will Pray For The Officer And For The Man That Was Killed. But, How Would You Guys Feel If You Were In Jeremy's Shoes. Seriously, Think About What You Guys Are Saying. What Would You All Be Feeling Right Now If You Were PArt Of His Family?? He Is A Great Guy Truely And He Is Very Important To Our Family. I Haven't Seen Him In About 2 Months And Finding Out That Im Not Gonna See Him For A Long Time Is Just Horrific. They Dropped One Charge And The Bail Is Now Set To 500K. God Aloud This To Happen. He Decides When Its Time For Someone To Come Home Or Not. If, He Decided That The Man's Time To Come Then It Was. If He Decides That The Badly Injured Officer Has To Come Home Then He Will. That's It No Arguments. THANKZ FOR YOUR TIME!

Posted by calibabyy33 on December 21, 2007 at 11:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So what would you all like Jeremy to do, exactly? Jump out of his truck, become a hero? It was an ACCIDENT. Do you all think he did this on purpose? He wasn't UNDER THE INFLUENCE like you all make it seem. He has his right to be 'under the influence'. Also, most people do not check their vehicles before they get into them every single time. N O N E of you know anything about this. Don't believe everything you hear on the news. As for some of you, Jeremy has a HUGE heart, he's one of the sweetest people you could ever meet. He would have gladly taken place with the CHP officer or the man that unfortunately died. He did get himself into this mess, I'm not saying he deserves a 'get out of jail free' card. But all of you need to calm down & think about this before you get all crazy on the keyboard, wishing him to rot in jail. You don't know him. You don't have a right to say anything about him like you do. As for that statement.. You're going to say things about the 'facts' I'm guessing... You don't know them. Don't even start. & what if Jeremy and the passenger had died in this accident also? What would you all be saying then? 'Well good he deserves to burn in hell'? I highly doubt it. Things happen, you can't turn back the clock. You should all think about your past mistakes. People you've hurt.. Even the little things you've gotten away with. What if people treated you how you're treating Jeremy? You should all think about this situation before you start acting like a**holes. I pray & have best wishes for ALL of the families. But PLEASE, think before spread your opinion & act like you know everything. Thank you, God bless.

Posted by devilangelhawk on December 21, 2007 at 11:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and i repeat...

"IF" a tire fell off or blew and he was of sound mind, then he would have been capable of avoiding the officer and man..."IF" he was under the influence when that happened, he would over correct and the obvious would happen. I agree, a man would have never made such choices...only a boy would do so.

he could have hit the brakes..."IF" he was of sound mind. And you, kid, are ridiculous, lol! The CHP are what keeps your little boyself safe day in and day out. And well your cuz you love so much, just killed an innocent man and put a family man in the hopsital in christmas. who cares if he is sorry, he will suffer the consiquences! And so he deserves. It is simple stuff son, keep your vehicle in safe mode. I am sure there is a reason "the axle fell off" as you say, and it prolly has to do with the fact that he did not take care of the vehicle...like a man should. So it sucks that you feel that way, but IF he was relly your cuz, why are you defending him on a blog for a newspapaer that according to you cant get the facts straight?
And question, so "the axle fell off", was that before or after he hit the CHP and hit and killed the young man? Most likely, your cuz did not take care of his truck, causing it to be pusehd to hard trying to get those drugs to someone (you maybe) and it caused the vehicle to malfunction due to his lack of ability to care for his vehicle. which means he did not take life seriously or live in reality...to many drugs most likely.

Posted by Cousin on December 21, 2007 at 11:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hmm.. Not Quite Sure What To Say But Jeremy(My Cousin) Is Not That Bad Of A Kid And I Really Do Love Him. Just Finding This Out On Thursday Night That My Cousin Is Gonna Go To Jail For A Long Time Is Very Devistating. But, Nobody Has The Rights To Put Somebody Down For This **ACCIDENT** I Will Pray For The Officer And For The Man That Was Killed. But, How Would You Guys Feel If You Were In Jeremy's Shoes. Seriously, Think About What You Guys Are Saying. What Would You All Be Feeling Right Now If You Were PArt Of His Family?? He Is A Great Guy Truely And He Is Very Important To Our Family. I Haven't Seen Him In About 2 Months And Finding Out That Im Not Gonna See Him For A Long Time Is Just Horrific. They Dropped One Charge And The Bail Is Now Set To 500K. God Aloud This To Happen. He Decides When Its Time For Someone To Come Home Or Not. If, He Decided That The Man's Time To Come Then It Was. If He Decides That The Badly Injured Officer Has To Come Home Then He Will. That's It No Arguments. THANKZ FOR YOUR TIME!
By The Way The Cousin That Is Posting This One Is Christopher.

Posted by devilangelhawk on December 21, 2007 at 11:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lol, so family of the little boy called jeremy...no one on here is better than the other. they just make better choices. he made the wrong choice and now he is getting what is coming to him. plain and simple as that. and sadly, you are being selfish, you get to see your family member again, what about the man he killed? of course yall are going to say he has a big heart and all that funny nonsense. you want him to look like a good person when he messed up bad. thats what the human race does people! you want some of the pity and sorrow going around the the families of the innocent's involved in this accident caused by jeremy. just let it all go. it cant change now. one family will be mouring on christmas instead of celebrating, another will be opening presents in a hospital, and yall will be in your room homes, in pj's and comfy. truly, jeremy will spend christmas where he belongs! do unto others as you wish them to do unto you!

Posted by skaterfrompr on December 22, 2007 at 12:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Devil-

You sound like a crazy douche...
all i have to say. You have no clue. Yes we feel sorry for the family that lost a life. Who doesnt? Any one that doesnt has no emotions what so ever. But Who checks there truck every day? and makes sure its in perfect condition. Some people take there trucks out to the dunes. Did u not notice the 2 dirt bikes in the back of his truck? You seriously dont know all the facts and charges he is getting charged for. Things are just looking better for him. Every one is out to get him just because he hit an officer. Like is said earlier, The police car more about there hit officer then the death that accured. You are just repeating ur self. So, your a waste of my time really. Not responding to anymore to what u say. but looking forward to what u have to say. And what relation do you have in this whole situation? most likely no relation huh. YOu have no heart..

Posted by vtaironjawz61 on December 22, 2007 at 12:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In response to hamskid:
I don't make it a habit to single people out, but...Wow dude, the first sentence of your post was stated with such confidence and authority and if you weren't so wrong, it would've been great!

An accident is defined as "an unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm." There can be plenty of fault and still be an accident.
I had intended to touch on a couple of other points you made until I read the last sentence of your post to cali_girl. It's obvious you made no attempt at understanding what she wrote. That crap accusing her of "... not being honest enough to tell it like it really is" was so far out of line, and right after all the Real man... blah blah blah. How "Real" are you?

Posted by devilangelhawk on December 22, 2007 at 1:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

skaterfrompr:

so your what, 16, maybe 18, if any older, thats just sad. anyways, i was born and raised in the dunes. and i myself have a truck. and i have enough brain to realize all the major factors that deal with a truck, and yes i check it almost daily and take pride in caring for it(i deal in the automotive industry). and well, i may have no heart...for jeremy that is. it does not matter to me whether he hit an officer, my mom, or a stranger. its that fact that he did it sweetie and now many families are in pain...its that simple. he is guilty for causing an accident. it may or may not have been intentionally, but HE still did it, HE was still behind the wheel, HE will have to deal with the consequences like a man. it will be a growing experience for you all.

Posted by jkinstler on December 22, 2007 at 6:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Answer me one question???? Have you or any of your children ever drove a car under the influence of any type of controlled substance or alcohol??? If you answer YES even to one drink than trust me this to could of been you... It is a shame what has happened and will forever have changed all of our lives especially the ones invovled and Lord knows I am so sorry and cry at night asking God over and over why he took one innocent young man to spare two others????? Why???? not only do I ask but so do these boys!!!! I know Jay would trade places with the young man who lost his life anyday. I only can believe this young man was someone who already knew the Lord and he still had work to do on our boys. I will never understand why nor do I with many tragic events that happen all over the world, but somethings are not to our understanding. I don't believe any of Jeremy's family is looking for sympathy they are looking for people to stop bad mouthing someone who you don't even know. Trust me you should never wish any ill thoughts on anyone because nobody on this earth is perfect. My live along with so many others will be changed forever in this horrific accident or crash whatever you people want to call it. It still is never going to bring back or change what has happened here. A poor innocent young college student lost his life and that doesn't seem to be as important because he wasn't the CHP officer. Everybody matters here... God created us all and a sin is a sin read your Bible. So having these ill feelings towards someone is just as guilty in the only book that matters. We all will be judged one day and like I told my son Bryan he spared you son for some reason I will never understand, but you make this time count baby. He has a plan for you boys and I hope and pray this will bring us all closer to him because the time is near look around you all look at our so called world. Don't be so quick to judge because it may be you or someone you love oneday...

Posted by QuestionAuthority on December 22, 2007 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

~~~Answer me one question???? Have you or any of your children ever drove a car under the influence of any type of controlled substance or alcohol??? If you answer YES even to one drink than trust me this to could of been you... It is a shame what has happened and will forever have changed all of our lives especially the ones involved and Lord knows I am so sorry and cry at night asking God over and over why he took one innocent young man to spare two others????? Why????~~~ Sounds to me like you are admitting that you Jeremy WAS under the influence of something.

ANYONE who said YES to your question took the same risk that young Jeremy did, and THEY TOO would be subject to ridicule and punishment according to the law.

Two Wrongs don't make a Right and Jeremy's WRONG must not be excused or overlooked. He may very well be remorseful, as he should be. Anyone who drives under the influence and finds themselves in the same situation should also feel remorseful and saddened by their actions. And they too should be punished according to our Laws.

Bringing GOD into all this mess, stating that it was time for one man to be injured, one young man to die and two young men to live is unnerving. That would mean that God's hand was guiding the PUTRID GANG MEMBER when he shot the innocent baby in the stroller, or the PATHETIC RAPIST when he forced himself inside innocent girls and women. Etc., Etc.,… This is a VERY SAD situation for ALL FAMILIES involved, but IT IS WHAT IT IS and it must be handled according to the LAWS we vote for in every election. If young Jeremy is found CLEAN of any substance, his situation will be better, if he is found under the influence of ANYTHING, then remember, HE MADE THE CHOICE TO DRIVE and he must suffer the consequence thereof. Condolences to all involved in this mess.

Posted by devilangelhawk on December 22, 2007 at 2:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Question Authority:

Very well put and very true. While reading jkinstler's comment, I felt like I needed to close the door because some sales person was going around selling "the word of the Lord". Please, I was born and raised Christian, 12 years of christian school. I know the bible like the back of my hand(but i would never admitt it past this). You chose how to interpret it. But there are wrong ways to do so.

jkinstler:

I never said I was perfect, in fact I have been saying the opposite of everyone. And I have never wished any ill thoughts on him. I only ask that justice be served to him and he gets, fully, what is coming to Jeremy. "God created us all and a sin is a sin read your Bible" its common sense in the religious world sweetheart, dont preach to us. "We all will be judged one day" and again...here it comes! And as for this little statement..."Don't be so quick to judge because it may be you or someone you love oneday..." you are basically wishing something horrible on us, and that right there shows your bibke thumpingself is no better, but only worse than myself and most people on this comment board. God did not hold a gun to Jeremy's head telling him to do this, Jeremy did it all on his own. Most likely the reason the CHP is more important at the moment, ie because he has young children and he is still alive, but fighting gravely for his life. I am not saying it is right, but I can also understand why it is so important. But again, another reason, the young man who passed was not from this area, the CHP was. And when outsiders(paso robles, you would be doing the samething if this happened in there town) come into our town and cause havoc, we will be ready to judge no matter who we are. It is plain and simple...It is human nature...It is how we all work...including you jkinstler, and your son bryan, and jeremy, and everyone else.

Posted by hotwildflower on December 22, 2007 at 7:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Is there any further update on the CHP officer?

I keep checking, hoping to see a story indicating that there is some more progress.

Posted by Lula on December 22, 2007 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know Jeremy needed a wake-up call; NOT like this however; no one wishes this on anyone.........everyone has to support their family members the best they know how...and everyone is still in shock over it. You never know how you will feel or react until something horrific happens to your or your immediate "family". It is life changing. Lots of soul searching going on in many lives.
I read on the Ventura County website his actual charges....there are 3 felony counts right now that he is facing on Dec. 7............there has to be something to substantiate it. If there are valid reasons for his "under the influence" he should not have been driving as part of that. It seems he is charged with drinking in some capacity.......that is NOT medical. Understanding and forgiveness take time; I feel bad for Jeremy, but lets hope many people around him will take note and stop their own foolish behavior now. I agree it would be great to get updated reports on the CHP officer's progress..that can be very slow; and the medical procedures and medications can also take their toll and affect the injured. PRAY for his healing and the welfare of his family; they are probably on an emotional roller coaster of their own. This one won't go away easily.

Posted by RIPaNDy on December 22, 2007 at 9:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First off I want to say..andy we love you and miss you sooo much and I know your watching over us.

To "cousin" you say your not going to see your cousin in a long time if he goes to jail...guess what?....[[YOU STILL GET TO SEE HIM]] do you know how many people would rather see andy alive?? A glass window or 3 times a week visits would be more than enough for his family in this situation. And I do feel bad for the other fam of the 20yr old because you are going through a tough time but I REPEAT ((WE DON'T GET TO SEE HIM EVER AGAIN AND YOU DO!!!)) he wouldn't of got arrested if he didn't do anything wrong and if he didn't then well good for him and his family. And IF he is guilty may god be with him because he has some charge on him and on his shoulders. And I'm sorry for sounding cruel but I saw andys mom the next day after his accident and her pain is ..... I can't even think of the word to describe it. Andy was the man of the house after a few months ago. his dad went in for brain surgery for a tumor and his still in recovery that's another reason I hope that kid is innocent ((which I doubt because he still killed someone)) cause wow did he change a familys life forever. For that 20 yr old kids family, just put andy parents shoes on for one day and you'll understand their pain.

And to that kids family have a merry christmas [[WITH HIM ALIVE]] while on christmas eve we have to burry our good friend and say our goodbyes forever....
RIP aNDy PaRRa 11.20.86_12.19.07
LOVE AND MISS YOU ALWAYS!! MuUaHs

Posted by RIPaNDy on December 22, 2007 at 9:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First off I want to say..andy we love you and miss you sooo much and I know your watching over us.

To "cousin" you say your not going to see your cousin in a long time if he goes to jail...guess what?....[[YOU STILL GET TO SEE HIM]] do you know how many people would rather see andy alive?? A glass window or 3 times a week visits would be more than enough for his family in this situation. And I do feel bad for the other fam of the 20yr old because you are going through a tough time but I REPEAT ((WE DON'T GET TO SEE HIM EVER AGAIN AND YOU DO!!!)) he wouldn't of got arrested if he didn't do anything wrong and if he didn't then well good for him and his family. And IF he is guilty may god be with him because he has some charge on him and on his shoulders. And I'm sorry for sounding cruel but I saw andys mom the next day after his accident and her pain is ..... I can't even think of the word to describe it. Andy was the man of the house after a few months ago. his dad went in for brain surgery for a tumor and his still in recovery that's another reason I hope that kid is innocent ((which I doubt because he still killed someone)) cause wow did he change a familys life forever. For that 20 yr old kids family, just put andy parents shoes on for one day and you'll understand their pain.

And to that kids family have a merry christmas [[WITH HIM ALIVE]] while on christmas eve we have to burry our good friend and say our goodbyes forever....
RIP aNDy PaRRa 11.20.86_12.19.07
LOVE AND MISS YOU ALWAYS!! MuUaHs

Marlene B.

Posted by Lula on December 22, 2007 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks for joining this blog..........loved ones of Andy! We are so sorry for what you have unexpectedly been forced to deal with! Our prayers are with you........

Posted by devilangelhawk on December 22, 2007 at 10:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Finally, someone is showing the pain Andy's family is going throught and how much harder it is for his family...than Jeremy's family who, i will repeat again, gets to see him many more times.

Posted by diamond on December 23, 2007 at 11:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"skaterfrompr on December 21, 2007 at 11:28 p.m. (

and correction... he is not getting charged for DUI.."

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Thursday, December 20, 2007

Reported by: Leana Orsua

VENTURA

A 20-year-old Paso Robles man is charged with drunk-driving following a deadly collision that shut a major California Highway down for hours.

The accident left one man dead and a CHP officer severely injured. The driver who was underage has been charged with felony DUI.

With one man dead, the Ventura County District Attorney may likely add a charge of Vehicular Manslaughter.

Investigators say the horrific accident was caused by a 20-year-old drunk-driver from Paso Robles.

The man believed responsible for the accident, Jeremy White, a 20-year-old from Paso Robles, is scheduled to be in court today facing charges of vehicular manslaughter, felony driving under the influence, possession of marijuana with intent to sell and transportation of marijuana. As of late Thursday, he was still being held at the Ventura County Jail. His bail is set at $500,000.
-ventura county star

I understand that the friends and family of jeremy are going through difficult times but im pretty sure the difficulties, pain, worries etc etc you guys are going through does not compare to even an ounce of andres's loved ones.

people stop beating around the bush or try to make excuses and just face the facts

Posted by diamond on December 23, 2007 at 11:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i was able to locate jeremys myspace page and his status/mood on myspace says "HIGH"

hmmmmmmmmm...

Posted by Captn_Obvious on December 24, 2007 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by skaterfrompr on December 22, 2007 at 12:02 a.m.

"Things are just looking better for him. Every one is out to get him just because he hit an officer. Like is said earlier, The police car more about there hit officer then the death that accured."

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/

Hey skater, thought I'd throw you a bone here. It seems that you really have something to say. But unfortunately, no one can figure out exactly what it is. Maybe this'll help? Again, thats:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/

Good luck bro.

Posted by Lula on December 24, 2007 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SO much focus on the officer being the reason Jeremy is under so much pressure. A young man Jeremy's age DIED.........the officer may have a long road of recovery ahead with lots of unknowns. One day at at time; one hour; one minute for EVERYONE involved in this is grueling. Time will tell us much..........hang in there.

Posted by Josie_Contreres on December 26, 2007 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes .... and all this could have been avoided.